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UK General Election 12th December 2019 |OT1| Hindsight is 20/19 (Tory majority confirmed)
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All the other comments are legitimate responses formulated in terrible (and embarassing ways).
I get why you are all upset. I voted Labour - I did not want the Tories to win, especially by this much! However, how does calling everyone a Tory a "cunt" amongst other expletives make things better?
It doesn't achieve anything. Some people who vote Tories have perfectly good reasons - they are not all racists. That's like saying everyone who voted Corbyn hates Jewish people.
Let's have our own democracy here as we discuss this. Divisive does not mean abusive.
I genuinely don't think there was an appetite from people to see the UK try and get a different deal with the EU. Either that or they didn't believe a deal which Corbyn was proposing was possible.
In terms of voting numbers, I want to see how much of a role Jo Swinson's Liberal Democrats had in letting Boris win.
He's not a 'commie' in the eyes of many
Let's not leave Wales out of this. They can take some of this shit too.
I have Jewish family in the UK and people are concern trolling Corbyn for antisemitism over this shite.
Please leave me alone.
Nah, I'm fucking done. This country is rotten to the core. It's time to do everything you can to leave.
Good, she completely fucked up the lib dems campaign. Another party leader who was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Totally unfit for it.
Just made a £50 donation to Shelter, which has made me feel a bit better.
Would reccommend anyone else who is feeling shit about this and is able to makes a donation to a charity that will help people who will be impacted by five years of a brutal Tory government.
And don't stay up and watch this shitshow on telly.
Anyway, well done Scotland. Think you guys leaving is the kick up the arse England needs.
Would reccommend anyone else who is feeling shit about this and is able to makes a donation to a charity that will help people who will be impacted by five years of a brutal Tory government.
And don't stay up and watch this shitshow on telly.
Anyway, well done Scotland. Think you guys leaving is the kick up the arse England needs.
Eh knowing enough about the history of fascism in England this isn't particularly all that far off, and killing social services and restricting immigration are definitely things I'd consider part and parcel with fascist movments
How is saying Tories is racist OK but saying anything else is isn't?
country would be in a lot better shape if the lib dems did a lot better at the expense of labour but labour did a lot better at the expense of the tories, would be closer to the 2010 hung parliament
hey good point England and Germany were both racist in 1940 they were probably as bad as each other
If Brexit is done before the next election, and is then no longer an election issue, seems like things in the North would snap back into place next election for Labour.
I loved most of his policies, but it's clear that's not what's needed, and Labour need to do what they did in the 90s, a young, charismatic leader (I'd also take Tony Stark levels of smart-arsery when it comes to political debates), the Sun backing you, and a center-left government.
Yes I'm all for Corbyn's politics but I'd rather have centre than the awful right wing government we have. Anyone who says they won't vote for a center labour is a fucking idiot.
Our election was actually close though. This looks like a rout.
There is no floor for conservatism as long as the whites see everyone else is suffering more than they are.
You're deluded.
Corbyn was toxic to the voters. Offering a choice like that would've been more of a disaster than we have now.
The left goes to Scotland or Ireland. I'm so sorry, I want a United Ireland and this will turbocharge us towards that way. But it's not fair, it's a travesty.
I didn't expect the majority to be this high, it's slowing seeping in that we are fucked. Of course, people coming out of the woodwork with, it would have been easy if Corbyn stood down. It wouldn't have had much difference.
Canada's been flirting with it too. My province elected a populist former drug dealer as premier, and it's been a disaster.
No, I'm saying go with anyone but him because if you pick a Labour official at random the odds that they're more unpopular than him are hovering around zero.
I don't disagree that the public sucks.
Fuck it, I'm off to bed. This will just be a depressing watch otherwise.
Good night, folks. Don't drink too much.
Good night, folks. Don't drink too much.
How are they terrible and embarassing? Most just said the actual consequences of voting Tory, and no amount of "good intentions," will remove those results. A vote for the Tories is a vote for all of things whether or not you "just care about democracy," or are the most racist, anti-poor, ableist Scrooge McFuck around.
Yeah, sure, calling the Tories cunts in an election campaign wouldn't be great, but they've just won the biggest landslide this century and there are many people here who will see either themselves or people they know suffer or die because of that result. Let people grieve.
The centrists have been waiting for this and scheming, all it takes is splits and people leaving the party dejected.
191 seats is a level of toxicity far beyond media hostility, and also doesn't tally with the Corbynite insistence that another leader would only face the same thing. It really can't be overstated how historically awful a result this is.
Remember folks, help people in need, stock food banks and stick together. Also whenever see a tory spit in their fucking face.
Labour could never have won this. This is a hateful little island that will become an insignificant hellscape over the next 5-10 years.
nonsense. Remain voters would have swung back to Labour in the end. even with a very Remain-leaning position, the polls increased for the Lib Dems and in the end it swung back to Labour and they were squeezed. the seats they needed to win were not the metropolitan constituencies with huge majorities. it was the leave heartlands. there is no change a pro-Remain Labour party would have won this election under any leader.
i don't think there was the appetite for Johnson's deal necessarily. there just wasn't the appetite for another referendum in the seats Labour needed to win
then why did they make such significant gains in 2017? by the way, when May had, at the start of the campaign, a massive lead in the opinion polls and higher personal popularity ratings than Thatcher? higher poll ratings than Johnson ever had?
the delusion is believing that Tony Blair 2.0 would have swept to power. it just ignores the hard electoral reality.
The Conservative Party is not facist.
What is wrong with you people? Read up on real facist parties and movements which you all are seriously downplaying If you really believe that the Tories are facists.
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