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Depends who it is. I think the Queen and Philip definitely should be tested if they show symptoms and I'm indifferent to the Royal family. They're both vulnerable and at high risk.
In fact, I think anyone over 65, regardless of social status, should be tested as a priority if they show any symptoms.
Yes, but because of their age and nothing to do with their status.
Just had to queue to get into Lidl. It was fine because there wasn't too many people but can't imagine what it will be like tomorrow. It's for the best though...
Also still had most things in stock despite being the end of the day, just sparse selection of fresh meat and very few loaves on the shelf.
Also still had most things in stock despite being the end of the day, just sparse selection of fresh meat and very few loaves on the shelf.
ROI doing the right thing with their lockdown.
The 2km radius may well be implemented in the UK if things carry on as they are.
The 2km radius may well be implemented in the UK if things carry on as they are.
ROI doing the right thing with their lockdown.
The 2km radius may well be implemented in the UK if things carry on as they are.
This document is very clear and in an ideal universe would be implemented on a worldwide scale.
Yeah London could well go mad. Anecdotally, my dumb friend who went drinking to his busy local in West London on the last night the pubs were open has been self-isolating with symptoms for three days now....
He's committed to himself and his partner isolating for at least 14 days. I think he realises he was an idiot. There's a lot unsaid. If he admits to any deviance from isolation, well, words will be fucking said at the very least.
Apparently it was the Pangolins
You can see it plotting its revenge.
I'm really pissed about the UK government's advice of suspected cases only self-isolating for 7 days then going back to work. I work in a hospital and a colleague restarted work and I'm worried she's infecting everyone.
I can't even say anything because that's the official guidelines when it would be much safer at 14 days (like other countries). She still can't taste or smell anything, which is a major red flag. She coughs into her hand and goes straight back to touching our shared computers. She wipes her nose with her forearm and keeps on handling notes.
I suggested to manager that we all wear face masks and manager said no because other departments aren't. I suspect it's for optics so it doesn't scare patients. Who cares about protecting your own staff, eh?
Our professional body released advice today saying we should wear masks as we are in prolonged close contact with patients, so I'm showing that to her on Monday and wearing masks regardless.
Colleague should really be wearing them to prevent infecting patients. Masks are the rubbish paper thin ones, but better than nothing. Literally do not have the proper respirator/N95 masks in our department.
I can't even say anything because that's the official guidelines when it would be much safer at 14 days (like other countries). She still can't taste or smell anything, which is a major red flag. She coughs into her hand and goes straight back to touching our shared computers. She wipes her nose with her forearm and keeps on handling notes.
I suggested to manager that we all wear face masks and manager said no because other departments aren't. I suspect it's for optics so it doesn't scare patients. Who cares about protecting your own staff, eh?
Our professional body released advice today saying we should wear masks as we are in prolonged close contact with patients, so I'm showing that to her on Monday and wearing masks regardless.
Colleague should really be wearing them to prevent infecting patients. Masks are the rubbish paper thin ones, but better than nothing. Literally do not have the proper respirator/N95 masks in our department.
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It's pathetic. Fucking Tories have run the NHS into the ground and sat on their hands while it was obvious what was coming from January onwards.
I hope it doesn't, I really need to start landscaping my garden.
People should jus the sensible
What the fuck is wrong with people? Don't they realise that by hoarding food there are vulnerable people who literally can't get any? Assholes.
As soon as things go back to normal people are going to have tons of food that will just expire and they will throw it all away.
Was muttering under her breath that she was gonna 'just come back in an hour'.
Was doing all this in front of her kids as well. One of which was even counting the pasta in front of me as if they wanted me to see that their mum had taken too many *sigh
People probably have already thrown things like milk and eggs away
The supermarkets need to impose a 30 item limit per shop, and get security to enforce it. The system they're using right now isn't working. They can't rely on people not to be idiots, because they're idiots.
Eesh, friends wife who works for the NHS has been sent an email telling all staff to hide their NHS badges when leaving work. People have been going up to them and pinching them.
Yep, exactly. Her poor hygiene is probably what got her infected in the first place.
I'm genuinely astonished and depressed at the weak mindedness and general lack of character on display by the British public during all of this. We wax lyrical about our stiff upper lip and blitz spirit, and then go to pieces the second we can't get toilet roll or are asked to stay indoors so as not to spread a deadly disease.
We'd go to fucking pieces in a war. We're utterly pathetic.
We'd go to fucking pieces in a war. We're utterly pathetic.
I don't know why they haven't done this. Same with online. It's a simple fix.
the blame is 100% on Lidl and stores in general, not on the panicking lady or you,
fucking stores should put a big disclaimer, "2 Max per customer!"
I went to Lidl earlier and they do have signs saying 4 per person(Which is quite generous).
Sainsbury's also had signs up when I went earlier in the week.
tbf, this has brought out the best and worst of humanity.
People are being absolute dicks, taking more food than they need, stealing badges, insulting, racism, etc
But we've also seen the best of humanity. Plenty of people doing their absolute best to help those in need, FB groups set up to help those w ho can't leave the house, signing up for that NHS volunteer thing, etc.
It's quite the contrast tbh.
People are being absolute dicks, taking more food than they need, stealing badges, insulting, racism, etc
But we've also seen the best of humanity. Plenty of people doing their absolute best to help those in need, FB groups set up to help those w ho can't leave the house, signing up for that NHS volunteer thing, etc.
It's quite the contrast tbh.
LOL, you say that as if people will read.
I've heard plenty of stuff from r/talesfromretail that proves without a doubt that people won't read even if it's in flashing neon coloured sign.
It's Brexit - a lot of this can be traced back to that. It's whole message was we are better on our own being selfish. It awakened a whole lot of horrible things, in a lot of people. Same reason racism has increased in football.
I suppose there is an argument that even if you live in a rural setting, you should exercise close to home.
Most supermarkets and UK shops barely have security. There's a lot of stores for example that have part time security (i.e. some days there's no one there). Those that are there can't go around policing the aisles. It would take weeks at this point to re-train existing staff/hire more security. Plus the police in normal times rarely respond to thefts, with the current situation they definitely aren't going to turn up for Karen buying 32 bags of dry pasta.
You're then asking Joe bloggs stacking the shelves to act as security, which they aren't going to do for the money that they're on.
Most supermarkets and UK shops barely have security. There's a lot of stores for example that have part time security (i.e. some days there's no one there). Those that are there can't go around policing the aisles. It would take weeks at this point to re-train existing staff/hire more security. Plus the police in normal times rarely respond to thefts, with the current situation they definitely aren't going to turn up for Karen buying 32 bags of dry pasta.
You're then asking Joe bloggs stacking the shelves to act as security, which they aren't going to do for the money that they're on.
Tesco has restricted online to 80 items. 30 items per shop is a bit low considering people shopping for families with kids and vulnerable people that can't go out.
80 is wayyy too high when there are severe e shortages of basic items. We have two children and 20 items would last us a week, which is enough. The problem is that people are hoarding for months of food.
Well then the government needs to step in and pass an emergency law about the number of items, because the current situation is chaotic and unsustainable. The largest supermarket chains are utterly failing. Our huge Sainsburys in our small town should be transformed into only stocking the basic things. But of course they haven't done that, because they're useless.
Dunno if this has already been shared but it's an interesting video on a different method of showing the trend in cases/deaths.
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The graph tool itself is here: https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/
How To Tell If We're Beating COVID-19
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Exactly. You only need food for a week and then you start again.
If everyone just bought a week's worth of food at a time, the supermarkets would be working as normal, subject to distancing rules etc. The chaos is because people are still panic buying. They're just buying 3 of everything now, instead of 30 of a few things.
I would remind them of their legal obligation to take all reasonable steps to ensure the health and safety of their employees, and say that you intend to work from home in accordance with the government guidelines. They aren't going to sack you for that.
The risk of possibly contracting or spreading the disease far outweighs 1% less productivity.
Trump: Johnson asked for ventilators
US President Donald Trump says Boris Johnson asked for his help to secure ventilators during a phone call between the two leaders.
Speaking at the White House as he signed the $2tn coronavirus stimulus package into law, Mr Trump said he spoke with the UK PM on Friday to wish him a speedy recovery after he was diagnosed with coronavirus.
"Before he even said hello he said, 'we need ventilators,'" Trump said of the call. "I said, 'wow that's a big statement.' Hopefully he's going to be in good shape."
No 10 has yet to respond to Mr Trump's comments.
Well, that's encouraging...
US President Donald Trump says Boris Johnson asked for his help to secure ventilators during a phone call between the two leaders.
Speaking at the White House as he signed the $2tn coronavirus stimulus package into law, Mr Trump said he spoke with the UK PM on Friday to wish him a speedy recovery after he was diagnosed with coronavirus.
"Before he even said hello he said, 'we need ventilators,'" Trump said of the call. "I said, 'wow that's a big statement.' Hopefully he's going to be in good shape."
No 10 has yet to respond to Mr Trump's comments.
Well, that's encouraging...
Family of 6 here, and I can't imagine how 20 items (or even 20 types of items) would cover us for a week's shop. Going off the typical checklist we've made for doing our weekly shops, our normal once-a-week shop consists of around 30-40 types of items, and we can easily buy 2, 3 or even 4 of some items to do us (for example, we use four loaves of bread a week in a typical week, as we have four children who take pack lunch as we're not entitled to free school meals). A weekly shop can easily consist of 80-odd items, and even doing the reduced shops we have been since this kicked off I'd reckon we're buying at least 60+ items still, and that's not to hoard or stockpile, but just to buy enough to feed four kids and two adults for a week, plus necessary toiletries etc. Cutting it to the bone, we'd still be 40-odd items.
I think Tesco's 80-item limit is probably around right for now to give room to cover families like ours, or a bit larger. Obviously it's overkill for single shoppers, and perhaps more generous for smaller families, but that's where a degree of personal responsibility comes in.
We had some local onion here suggesting that Morrisons should be locking up all of their trolleys and telling people to use baskets only for their shop. My other half firmly pointed out that for us, that would mean filling something like 10 baskets to do a normal weekly shop and even assuming we cut further back than we already have, we'd still be making 7 trips in and out of the shop to do a single shop. How would that square with trying to limit exposure for ourselves (as long as we remain healthy) or to others (in the event we become asymptomatic carriers)? We'd need to spend at least twice as long shopping as normal, in contact with many more people in the shop and at tills than normal, or we'd need to make multiple trips to the shop a week, going against government guidance. Fine for the onion who lived alone and could do a week's shop with an overloaded basket; not so much for families.