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Katana_Strikes

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 29, 2017
10,750
Problem with supermarkets imposing limitations on how much people buy is that there's no way to stop, say, couples alternating to buy twice as much - or people storing crap in their car before heading back to buy another horde...
Sure it can still be easily abused, but it's a deterrent, it's more time consuming and not being able to just pile your trolley high means it gives others the opportunity to buy items too. But other than that keen eyed staff could clock these folk and stop them as well.
 

gosublime

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,432
Some parents at my kids primary school are planning to send their kids to school on Monday as they want to keep a sense of normality.
 

jelly

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
33,841
I totally forgot about private healthcare, hopefully at cost is fair and not astronomical to the NHS or dictates any future investment but nothing matters at this point, get it done.
 

jelly

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
33,841
The problem with getting lots of NHS doctors and nurses out of retirement is that a lot of them are gonna be in the vulnerable category.

Hopefully they get the right protective gear and the government tests too because they aren't from what I heard from someone who works in hospitals.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,882
The problem with getting lots of NHS doctors and nurses out of retirement is that a lot of them are gonna be in the vulnerable category.

Hopefully within each profession, they'll be categorized by prior role/skillset (cancer nurse, surgeons, etc), and within those categories assessed according to their own risk profiles (age, underlying conditions, smoker, etc), and then provided roles in the NHS accordingly. So they'll all fall into vulnerable categories by the nature of their ages, but the most vulnerable returnees are given roles in supporting the NHS away from Covid-19 work, which frees up some younger, less vulnerable current staff to focus on the frontlines.
 

Garfield

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 31, 2018
2,772
So Italy numbers still horrendous, if lockdown is not working then we are all doomed
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
So Italy numbers still horrendous, if lockdown is not working then we are all doomed
I think the logical answer to that is harsher lockdown measures. Because people aren't even giving it a chance to work, if only 50% of a developed country with a population of tens of millions listens, no wonder it's not working.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Hopefully they get the right protective gear and the government tests too because they aren't from what I heard from someone who works in hospitals.

Friends of mine working in the local hospital still have zero PPE
There is also some who aren't really super old and just left when they cut jobs or the work load became ridiculous.

Yep, a lot soured on their 10 year payfreeze too
 

jelly

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
33,841
I don't think you can knock people going for a walk in open spaces? but honestly there is a lot of people out and about like normal except in places as expected.
 

Linkified

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Dec 24, 2017
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So Italy numbers still horrendous, if lockdown is not working then we are all doomed

If you look at the article published by the Guardian on Thursday it shows the lockdown cities were having an effect but they were still getting cases reported, from 23rd to the date of the article

My dad saw a report on Germany that a lot of deaths have yet to be signed of by coroners so their is a lag in the deaths they potentially have to covid-19 and the ones that have been confirmed.
 

16bits

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Apr 26, 2019
2,862
‪Not trying to get into a unsavoury debate here but is there any likelihood of banning religious gatherings? Thinking churches and mosques have lots in a confined space ‬
Edit just seen Friday prayers were cancelled around here but not sure about churches be interesting to know if they are full of old folk tomorrow

i thought they were?

dont tell me people are going to church, or a mosque several times A day?
 

GrizzleBoy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,762
I think the logical answer to that is harsher lockdown measures. Because people aren't even giving it a chance to work, if only 50% of a developed country with a population of tens of millions listens, no wonder it's not working.
I can understand the people out and about gathering food, doing essential services, or people who literally just need to be out at work so that they can pay bills dont lose their house.

The people still going to gatherings, the pubs still open and still hosting people is upsetting though.

Italy just had almost 1000 deaths in a single day and their health system has more capacity than ours does.

It's like, do we need to actually get to 1000 deaths per day before these assholes do the right thing or can we do something now so.we dont have to get to 1000 deaths in the first place?
 

raygcon

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
741
It is a nice sunny day so I went for a short walk in the park. The amount of people there is enough to fill all parking space. I can't really see the sense of self isolation at all. Also saw lots of old chaps walking around coughing with kids running around...
 

Kodama4

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Oct 25, 2017
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‪Not trying to get into a unsavoury debate here but is there any likelihood of banning religious gatherings? Thinking churches and mosques have lots in a confined space ‬
Edit just seen Friday prayers were cancelled around here but not sure about churches be interesting to know if they are full of old folk tomorrow

They already are closed

Edit: just seen your reply :)
 

Fatmanp

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Oct 27, 2017
4,438
Seeing as we are likely to run out of beds is it at all possible to temporarily take over buildings such as hotels to care for people or is that an even bigger logistical nightmare?
 

PJV3

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Oct 25, 2017
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London
The rush from city>town>country seems to be happening in quite a few countries.
It's like every disaster film where you doubt it would happen in real life.
 

Dary

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Oct 27, 2017
8,416
The English Wilderness
It's like, do we need to actually get to 1000 deaths per day before these assholes do the right thing or can we do something now so.we dont have to get to 1000 deaths in the first place
Part of the problem, I think, is that the number of deaths is a meaningless statistic to people - until it includes somebody they know/care about. Otherwise, it's still "someone else's problem".
 

NeonCarbon

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Oct 28, 2017
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Seeing as we are likely to run out of beds is it at all possible to temporarily take over buildings such as hotels to care for people or is that an even bigger logistical nightmare?
That is the plan I believe.

In South Wales they are opening a new hospital a year early, as its still under construction. Luckily it seems to be where there is a significant cluster of cases too.
 

16bits

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Apr 26, 2019
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Part of the problem, I think, is that the number of deaths is a meaningless statistic to people - until it includes somebody they know/care about. Otherwise, it's still "someone else's problem".

absolutely right. And unfortunately I fear that they are going to get just this.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
I can understand the people out and about gathering food, doing essential services, or people who literally just need to be out at work so that they can pay bills dont lose their house.

The people still going to gatherings, the pubs still open and still hosting people is upsetting though.

Italy just had almost 1000 deaths in a single day and their health system has more capacity than ours does.

It's like, do we need to actually get to 1000 deaths per day before these assholes do the right thing or can we do something now so.we dont have to get to 1000 deaths in the first place?
For sure- people moving around on their own, going to essential work, getting supplies etc etc is fair enough- you can do that and keep your distance. It's the idiots packing out pubs etc that are blatantly ignoring it
 

NeonCarbon

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Oct 28, 2017
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Still no update on number of confirmed cases though?

The problem I have with the number of deaths, is that its always going to be delayed.
 

Oxx

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Oct 28, 2017
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I've never seen the tennis courts around here so busy. I guess as far as activities go, it's relatively distant. Just surreal to see.
 

Deleted member 16516

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Oct 27, 2017
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Still no update on number of confirmed cases though?

The problem I have with the number of deaths, is that its always going to be delayed.
"Another 53 people with coronavirus have died in England, bringing the total of deaths in the country to 220.
The patients who died in England were aged between 41 and 94 years old and all had underlying health conditions.
Earlier, two more deaths were recorded in Wales, bringing its total to five, and another death in Scotland, taking the number to seven
Northern Ireland has recorded one death."


 

Deleted member 34788

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Nov 29, 2017
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So Italy numbers still horrendous, if lockdown is not working then we are all doomed


Italy is also reaching its peak, which is a terrible one to reach, however in other areas of the country cases are levelling off or not having any at all.

The northern region is still the hardest hit.

Seeing as we are likely to run out of beds is it at all possible to temporarily take over buildings such as hotels to care for people or is that an even bigger logistical nightmare?


Yes, the bill for emergency powers allow this.
 

donkey

Sumo Digital Dev
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Oct 24, 2017
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For sure- people moving around on their own, going to essential work, getting supplies etc etc is fair enough- you can do that and keep your distance. It's the idiots packing out pubs etc that are blatantly ignoring it
Not even the pubs. People in stores just don't follow it at all.
 

Shibata100

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Oct 29, 2017
1,645
Really hope the lockdown is announced soon (outside of key workers). While I think it's a bit late in the day I think it would help with reducing the panic shopping and very much reduce the spread of it beyond your household.

The problem is that for the lockdown to be effective it needs to happen for a few months and we need to hope there's some sort of breakthrough in fighting this virus.

ps3ud0 8)

Hopefully the panic buying will stop once people realise there isn't gonna be some hard lockdown.
Maybe the pubs and clubs will actually fucking close soon.

I see pubs all around still open, still full of people.

Why was there no mention of fines? Also casino's seemed to be left off the list
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Went for a longish walk around north london today, and it was pretty deserted. That said, I was avoiding parks, but at least all the pubs and cofee shops seemed to have closed