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UK Bellingcat: Navalny fooled his own would-be FSB assassin into revealing details of the plot by phone
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Guy has got some huge balls.
Got almost killed by Putin? Alright let me dig this thing even deeper.
Right now some journalists are at this FSB officer's apartment door, trying to speak with him, but he, obviously, ignores everyone and doesn't come out.
However, his (supposedly) mom came out to speak with the police officers, who got there after Lyubov Sobol, russian politician, one of the most publicly known members of Navalny's team, tried to speak with this FSB guy (she got there before the journalist).
This guy actually lives in ~15 min walking distance from me. š
However, his (supposedly) mom came out to speak with the police officers, who got there after Lyubov Sobol, russian politician, one of the most publicly known members of Navalny's team, tried to speak with this FSB guy (she got there before the journalist).
This guy actually lives in ~15 min walking distance from me. š
I would guess it's not gonna be as clean as Navalny's boxers.
Accidentally falls out the window, and then his mother accidentally falls down a few flights of stairs trying to call for help.
And the fact he did it over the phone from the comfort of his favourite chair is even more impressive if you ask me.
Only in Russia could an intelligence operative give away the whole scheme to someone posing as the guy from the HR department .
Honestly, I think Putin's quote about FSB not finishing the job was directed towards FSB, and boy would I hate to be in their shoes rn
Hasn't Russia been pretty incompetent with a bunch of their assassination attempts? Didn't the GRU screw up a lot?
I have no idea, tbh.
I really hope hope he doesn't "accidentally" die or something. I assume he is just going to "disappear", either alive or not.
Once again, hopefully alive. The guy needs to (one day) be punished according to law, and not for a failure as an FSB agent, but as someone who took part in a murder attempt.
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Spies are traditionally traded for other spies, so this guy will likely be shipped back to Russia alive at some point. Putin will either throw him a parade or quietly disappear him.
Yep. If I was a Russian assassin, I would make damn sure that I got the kill. I don't want to imagine what the punishment would be for fucking up a hit job ordered by Putin.
This is all a stark reminder that Russia, for all the damage it is able to do on the international stage, is a clownish mafia state at its core.
According to the English translated call, dude has COVID, so...
Yeah this is what Putin will be mad at most of all - projection of power is very important.
Man dies from COVID after accidentally falling out window, and mother also dies from COVID after accidentally falling down a few flight of stairs.
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There are people who see that Putin has banned opposition leadership, forbids open LGBTQ expression, and is in perpetual warfare with Chechnyan Muslims and thinks "ah, I wish America was so enlightened".
I don't think so. Face to face meetings are risky atm and he's being called over some sort of a secure line. Plus he's down with the Rona.
Intelligence operatives are still employees who need to report to their higherups, especially when an operation fails.
He's still hesitant to speak over the phone, but Nawalny basically bullies him into a confession.
I wonder if there's more recordings which will be released soon.
Sure, but the operation is over. It basically debrief here.
I just feel a bit uneasy when people underestimate Russian capabilities.
Even people working on not top security stuff know to verify identities before giving out information.
Russia has a lot of capabilities, but more often than not the execution these days is along the lines we've seen in the past few years. The scary thing is that they keep trying.
This is all so wild to me, and seems kinda big to say the least, but Putin's camp seems pretty good a shrugging and moving on and I'm not nearly educated enough in all this to even hazard a guess on its potency
Goddamn, this absolutely bonkers. Navalny is completely out of fucks to give after the attempt on his life. Can you imagine getting one of the men responsible for your attempted murder to confess to their crime over the phone?
I guess this is what happens if you involve too many thugs in an operation like this: One of them might turn out to be a dummy. There are so many instances in that video where he's hesitant to offer information only to completely incriminate himself a couple of sentences later.
I guess this is what happens if you involve too many thugs in an operation like this: One of them might turn out to be a dummy. There are so many instances in that video where he's hesitant to offer information only to completely incriminate himself a couple of sentences later.
As weird as it sounds investigating his own assassination attempt is probably best way for him to keep himself alive. After these reveals it is harder and harder for Putin to off him quietly.
The spy Navalny is speaking to is already in Russia. The posters were suggesting that he'll be disappeared because he gave up info stupidly
Crazy stuff
The whole murder attempt is weird, since it doesn't seem like Nawalny has any real chance against Putin, this is an insane amount of effort to get rid of him even for the FSB.
I guess they want to send a message for others not to follow his example
And that guy who talked is probably as good as dead
The whole murder attempt is weird, since it doesn't seem like Nawalny has any real chance against Putin, this is an insane amount of effort to get rid of him even for the FSB.
I guess they want to send a message for others not to follow his example
And that guy who talked is probably as good as dead
It's more that Navalny inspires part of the populace to have anti-Putin/corruption feelings than a direct threat to Putin's presidential hopes
Also Navalny's tactical voting campaign at the last regional elections was quite effective and feelings towards Putin's United Russia party have changed quite a bit over the last few years in many places.
That's what resulted in regional officals sympathetic to him being elected right?
Not really, but it really disrupted Kremlin's control in different (mostly far away) regions. The tactical voting involved voting for the most popular non-United Russia candidate.
While Putin might still be popular across Russia, United Russia's corrupt henchman #24892 sent from Moscow closing down public services while filling him own pockets doesn't really command the same popularity. The most notable example with some Kremlin pushback was at Khabarovsk Krai.
Okay thanks for the insight. I used to have a great resource bookmarked. I believe it was a Ukrainian scholar (or somewhere in the general region) who would do reporting on Russia's going ons but I seemed to have lost it. If you have any suggestions where to keep up on it, it would be appreciated
Not really a clue, just living in the region, you get some in-depth analysis every now and then.
What is the general feeling over there do people in Russia still have the majority of their basic needs met,are there still jobs and decent pay to be had?
It just seems like Putin has been robbing that country blind for so long now that eventually something would break and the people will have had enough but perhaps I'm completely wrong and things are better than they appear from the outside.
Not a clue on the first bit, would probably be good to hear from someone actually living there.
Historically, Russians have suffered immensely, the threshold for what would bring people to the streets is very different in Russia compared to most other countries. Putin's biggest goal is to just make sure that there is no credible alternative to him, that with memories of the era of "robber barons" of the 90s is enough to make the average Russian think twice about any change in power.