UK’s Brexit negotiator says government is not scared of no-deal exit
David Frost says the country is fully ready for Australia-style agreement with the EU
www.theguardian.com
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UK’s Brexit negotiator says government is not scared of no-deal exit
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Wait, I thought this already happened. Getting some crazy Mandela Effect vibes going on at the moment.
Of course not, they're rich enough that they won't be affected, so they'll all be fine. It's the rest of us who are going to be fucked.
Yeah, i vaguely remember the UK government saying if there wasn't a deal by July we would quit talking and start doing stuff of a brexity nature.
Yeah, it's been like four years now since the referendum hasn't it?
Brexit is for life not just a few years, we should get into the real nitty gritty and moaning next year onwards.
yeah I thought this was kinda over already, like, the kind of deal was already decided (no deal, I thought), learning that it uhhh... isn't... feels like Brexit is just the state of the UK now, like, permanently.
I don't know what they mean when they say this and I am Australian
Funny how these "brave little england" fuckers need to compare us to literally any other country to try and assuaged people's fears from the nightmare they've created
What happened already was the UK exiting the EU, which happened after the first stage of the process (negotiation of a withdrawal agreement). The UK is now in a transition period, during which it still follows EU rules and remains within the EU single market. This transition period ends at the end of December. When the UK and EU agreed the transition period, the aim was to negotiate some kind of comprehensive trading relationship during it. That will now definitely not happen - the only question remaining is whether there will be no deal at the end, or some kind of basic rushed arrangement.
July was the deadline for the extension of the transition period. It could theoretically have been extended until the end of 2022 with the agreement of both the UK and EU. That deadline has since passed so there is no longer a formal option for extending the transition period.
Confirmation that the transition period would only last until the end of the year kicked off a number of preparatory plans, and accelerated others that were already in progress, though all signs point towards the UK still being quite unprepared.
In most senses, yes. The EU will remain the UK's largest trading partner. Since there won't be a comprehensive trade arrangement out of these talks, there will almost certainly have to be more talks in future, and unless the UK agrees to things that are currently off the table (like regulatory alignment and some kind dispute settlement mechanism), those talks are likely to be recurring, forever.
It's a silly UK way of saying that they want nothing. Throughout the process, there have been attempts within the UK to describe what kind of relationship it wanted to have with the EU after Brexit. This started off as a "Norway-style" deal (high level of regulatory alignment, free movement, membership of customs union and single market), then politicians started talking about "Canada-style" (comprehensive free trade agreement but very limited integration with the EU), then there was a ridiculous period of time when they started saying they wanted idiotic things like "Canada-plus-plus-plus", and remain campaigners started talking about a "Germany-style" deal (meaning not actually leaving the EU at all).
The idea of an "Australia-style" deal is a later evolution. It means "no deal", since Australia does not currently have a formal trade agreement with the EU, and trades with the EU on WTO terms. (Australia and the EU are working towards a deal, but Brexit supporters probably don't know or care about that).
I need to stock up on Warhammer stuff at UK discounter prices before years end, thanks for reminding me again.
Imagine the UK during the pandemic with the whole "traffic jam at the border" and "problems with importing vital goods like food and drugs" stacked on top. Perfect time to end the transition period.
Imagine the UK during the pandemic with the whole "traffic jam at the border" and "problems with importing vital goods like food and drugs" stacked on top. Perfect time to end the transition period.
I'd remind people that there are a number of people within the UK government who either regard a no deal exit as desirable or not a disaster. That the UK government is behaving as such shouldn't surprise anybody.
I'd say a) as above, they wouldn't consider leaving without a deal a failure and b) resigning because you were responsible for a colossal fuck-up is a very quaint idea nowadays.
I'd say a) as above, they wouldn't consider leaving without a deal a failure and b) resigning because you were responsible for a colossal fuck-up is a very quaint idea nowadays.
The COVID situation shows you what's coming, emergency policy that means billions gets funnelled into Tory pockets without oversight while the bigger brutes feast on the shitshow and consolidate power and assets on the cheap. They just have to throw out some red meat for idiots and racists like taking back control of the borders and our fish, see the crap in that article. Same old shit.
We need to stop referring to "the UK" as if it's a person, 48% of people living here voted against this bullshit
he referred to the UK as a state in his comment, which is spot-on.
This is what this Tory government want, now they've got covid to blame when the economy tanks even more so it's easy for them, it's been looking like no-deal for a long time now. The UK government are clearly planning to offer all kinds of incentives to large companies which is specifically what the EU don't want and they've not moved anywhere in negotiations because of it.
The fuck is with this site and celebration of the suffering of others? Yeah fuck you british poors getting dragged through this huh?
I'm assuming from talking about institutions that it's the government etc.
No shit. You just wanted poor brown people gone and white people with money to spend, spend, spend away*! That was the whole game plan.
*and if you're the son of an ex-KGB agent owning the Evening Standard, hey, here's a peerage for ya!
its what the british public voted for. and to say they didn't vote for it, is very insulting and elitist.
Well, they kind of have to make that claim or they won't have a foot to stand on during negotiations. As absurd as it is.
But they really do seem to be steering towards a hard Brexit for some insane reason.
What else can they leverage that the EU needs (access to)? Fishing and..?
But they really do seem to be steering towards a hard Brexit for some insane reason.
What else can they leverage that the EU needs (access to)? Fishing and..?
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The people who politically desired leave from the start have already made their money. They don't give a shit.
It is not-PC to point out, but it is absolutely self-inflicted for them.
Brexit vote explained: poverty, low skills and lack of opportunities
This report provides unprecedented insight into the dynamics of the 2016 vote to leave the EU, showing how a lack of opportunity across the country led to Brexit.
www.jrf.org.uk
Considering the majority british poor voted for brexit not once but twice this comment is embarassing