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Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,189
UK
"gamers really believe it's first destroying the planet, and second just a tool for speculation."

Well done gamers for knowing what a casino scam this is and the damage. 👏🏾
 

panda-zebra

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,737
If I wanted to be in the "selling video game content" business I would apply at Ubisoft. I have no interest in the "selling" part when it comes to video games and neither do most consumers. I don't know where they got the idea that people want to do this. Most people don't sell their used clothes, or their used dishes, or their used anything. We're not going to waste our time selling our used digital video game garbage to maybe make a penny or two here and there, and will certainly never spend money on any digital good in the hope of being able to do so. It will never be worth peoples time to do this, except the handful at the top of the pyramid.
But you can see why their eyes are lighting up imaging a future where something gets sold on and on and on and every time they get paid for doing eff all.

Isn't the infrastructure for this already in place? For instance, Microsoft knows what games you own and which ones your friend doesn't. If they wanted to they could totally figure out a way to transfer ownership of a game, from you to your friend, without needing NFTs or the blockchain. They don't allow this because it doesn't benefit them.
Well they had great plans for the reselling of digital content on their terms and via their approved middlemen, and the public wasn't shy in telling them exactly what they thought of that idea considering what it involved, so unsurprising now that they're all-in on a future where they're happy you never actually own anything to begin with. So it's all pretty reassuring at least on the NFT front as it makes very little sense in their ecosystem away from the perpetual 1st party content - and they already have a pretty clear stance when it comes to 1P and NFT and it looks like a middle finger, which is nice.
 

Roshin

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,840
Sweden
...gamers really believe it's first destroying the planet, and second just a tool for speculation. But what we [at Ubisoft] are seeing first is the end game. The end game is about giving players the opportunity to resell their items once they're finished with them or they're finished playing the game itself.

I like how he brings up 2 major negatives and then attempts a Jedi mind trick and moves right past that.
 
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Edward850

Software & Netcode Engineer at Nightdive Studios
Verified
Apr 5, 2019
992
New Zealand
Has he even bothered to talk to the engineers he's asking to implement all this? It's only ever CEOs and the like onboard with this and they never stop to think why that is.

It's like whenever some group proposes digital voting and only ever seem to ask the security experts who would need to implement it last, who would all say why it's such a horrible idea.
 

Rbrogue

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
272
Diablo 3 already had the Real Money Auction House which is conceptually what they're selling here. Nothing he described needs a blockchain to exist.
 
Nov 25, 2021
947
Imagine if you had an NFT sales pitch. It's not unique, but with a little spin, we could make it unique. Now imagine you throw it out to gamers. There are a potential 7bn gamers, and if they each buy an nft, you could make hundreds of billions of dollars. Now imagine that the majority of people don't buy into your scheme. Imagine your boss firing you because you hinged your career on a gamble that didn't work out. Imagine.
 

Spartacris

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,065
Los Angeles
I like how he casually touches upon the block chain destroying our planet but then move on to advocate for it like it's nothing.

if it weren't so sad it would be comical.
 

Trup1aya

Literally a train safety expert
Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,363
Basically "They are worried about destroying the planet, but once they see they can resell digital items, they'll come around."

Insane
 

Karlinel

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Nov 10, 2017
7,826
Mallorca, Spain
I like how he casually touches upon the block chain destroying our planet but then move on to advocate for it like it's nothing.

if it weren't so sad it would be comical.
On the one hand, the planet will becomes less hospitable. On the other, you'll be part of the elite of cryptobros and suckers that try to sell random numbers to another fallout shelter.
 

bobeth

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,302
Man, if you find it difficult to explain why something is beneficial to your customers it's because IT'S NOT!
 

ManuZero

Member
Jul 14, 2020
263
Everyone who is part of the scheme, every single one, keeps saying how people just don't get it, or start their sentences with "imagine a world where [most basic easily disproven nonsense]". They can't engage with the actual counter arguments because they know they need to keep up the hype for it to work.
 

T0kenAussie

Member
Jan 15, 2020
5,101
What are this tool's qualifications, you may ask?

Per his Linkedin:

2000-2006: Masters in Philosophy.
2006-2014: Philosophy Professor.
2014-2018: "Researcher" at Ubisoft.
2018-2018: "Blockchain Initiative Manager" at Ubisoft.
2018-2021: "Advisor" at Azarus.io, which seems to be a company that "monetizes" watching streams with overlay games(?).
2018-2021: "Blockchain Initiative Director" at Ubisoft.
2021-2021: "VP" at Strategic Initiative Lab, Ubisoft.

Get this guy the fuck away from games.
Now imagine that these chuckle fucks are sprinkling thoughts of NFT returns into the board rooms of Silicon Valley VC funds who have been investing in games and want their ROI

I'm half convinced that stalker 2's NFTs was done as some form of VC appeasement
 

Paroni

Member
Dec 17, 2020
3,419
He probably REALLY wished that some big streamers would jump onboard and people would be lining up to get streamer's old video game items with big bucks.
I really don't see what else would give Ubisoft NFTs any substantial value.
 

Galkinator

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,962
What a load of crap. They literally don't know what the fuck they want, only that they need more shameless revenue
 

panda-zebra

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,737
Can't repost this enough:
www.youtube.com

Let me explain Blockchain gaming and Play-to-Earn.

NFTs are a pure scam. Blockchain gaming is a pyramid scheme. Play-to-Earn is not only a scam, it's deeply immoral.EDIT: I have answered a BUNCH of the commen...
He put up a follow-up to answer a lot of the people "just asking questions" with all the usual, tired bullshit but but buts..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IYjsWBbmKI&t=0s&ab_channel=ChristopherNatsuume
 

Deleted member 51848

Jan 10, 2019
1,408
Ubisoft gonna Ubisoft I guess. The conversation around NFTs is a really interesting one. I mean - it's very clearly a made-up load of old bollocks akin to a ponzi scheme - and yet here we are, with people like Jimmy Fallon normalising their existence to anyone who will listen. You may as well set fire to your money.
 

RedAhmed

Member
Jan 9, 2018
3,283
Is this guy delusional or what? Kindly piss off, thanks.

People aren't stupid, they already know what your aim is, and they're not going to help you achieve it.
 

Mg.

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,979
VP of Snake Oil is blinded by greed.

Go fuck yourself and fuck Yves too.
 

DOA

Member
Oct 26, 2017
481
Do you guys see a future where players own the games themselves? That the games are an NFT?

NP:
That's part of the use case we can explore, but it's not the focus today.

WTF? i remember when buying a game, you actually owned that copy
 

Xiofire

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,137
"The end game is about giving players the opportunity to resell their items once they're finished with them or they're finished playing the game itself."

Sell them to who?
 

Phellps

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,810
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Never irrelevant unfortunately
This is what immediately came to mind as I read the thread title.
 

Voytek

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,811
Just come out and say you wanna make money with it. Stop the bullshit act that it will be good for anything else. I hate when they pretend like they are doing it for the players.
 

Thera

Banned
Feb 28, 2019
12,876
France
They can't say the truth so they called people stupid. That's basic 21th century communication. Just don't give them voices, it's pointless.
 

Nerun

Member
Oct 30, 2017
2,274
I totally believe, that you only want the best for your customers, sorry players, giving them an option to make money with your games, when they stop playing it. It's totally not about getting more money for the company itself, more GaaS, more long term returns, more money out of more players, etc. Look I get it, it's getting more and more expensive to develop games and making more money is always the number one goal, etc. I don't hate companies for trying stuff...but we have so many broken systems out there, especially in the mobile space.

Trying to tell players/customers that they are too stupid to grasp this new concept/understand it, is one way....but none I like sorry ;) Sad thing is actually, that some of my former colleagues are already working on NFT games and some of them are doing pretty well already. On the other hand, not really a surprise, because they worked mostly on browser and mobile f2p titles, so NFT is just another step for them/these companies or an additional factor to getting more money out of it. Sadly? Luckily? I'm stuck in my old ways and I always want to work on something that I believe in/like and can stand behind, even if it means I sometimes have to life with less salary or looking a bit longer for a new job at times.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,202
Good to know it's not just about destroying the planet for them. It's also about the endgame of making money from player transactions by withholding digital content from the games. That endgame presumably takes place when the planet has been destroyed
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,143
never seen a interview say less than nothing

Take that back, that is standard with crypto, and nft stuff
 

Vyr

Member
Jun 3, 2021
22
Scotland
"For now, because of the current situation and context of NFTs, gamers really believe it's first destroying the planet, and second just a tool for speculation. But what we [at Ubisoft] are seeing first is the end game. "

Haha what an absolute joke. Can't address the legitimate concerns about the unnecessary carbon footprint of blockchain technology for what little it actually offers so they resort to "muh endgame". NFT enthusiasts are all the same. Can only provide buzzwords and empty promises.

I'm glad these things are universally hated and any corporation or celebrity trying to endorse these for a gross and harmful profit are getting shit on by the public.
 

RoKKeR

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,387
The more I think on this the more clear it becomes that this is an abject failure in business communication. We are your clients, and yet you lambast us for not accepting your disgusting new money making scheme… incredible. I'd be out of a job if I talked about (or even thought about!) my clients like this. It shows their incentives are so out of whack. I hope these projects continue to crash and burn.
 

RROCKMAN

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,824
You didn't innovate you just hopped onto the latest trend.

Someone should be up for review