I don't think there is a choice of RT on/off modes.
That's the only mode on consoles.
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I don't think there is a choice of RT on/off modes.
That's the only mode on consoles.
I mean its does 1080p with raytracing in a open world. There was a time people laughed at that idea.
And they are just cross-gen games. The Series S might run into trouble once true next gen games release.
This is concerning to me at the start of the generation, and already we being informed/warned of sub 1080P on next generation consoles. WTF tbh.
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His quote starts with:
The title is not saying that Ray Tracing will look the same across platforms, it is saying that Ray Tracing will be the same, RT has several applications and they could change for optimization's sake, in this case it could be the on XSS, but they won't, fortunely.
And sorry for the slow reply or any typos, I am on my phone.
DF is like.
Nah, Digital Foundry's own tests with the PC version show the same. Hell, I actually preferred "high" RT setting compared to "ultra" or whatever it was labelled. High RT reflections had fewer jaggies and looked smoother, though the reflections were at a lower resolution and less performance hogging.
Totally hear what you're saying OP but your title reads like you're saying it looks the same and doesn't reflect the actual quote.
My house and your house share the same building fundamentals, I guarantee you they look different.
You expect the console with the dramatically worse CPU to perform better?
also, we've seen a video of ray tracing in this game. It's not underwhelming. Not one bit.
Agree. tbh while they may reduce reflections on rough objects, in your video it was often those rough objects that helped provide 'grounding' to the graphics. arguably more interesting to me than the polished reflections which you can at least partially fake with SSR (and which they do as well)
My biggest yikes is the XSS being a 'max' target of 1080p. which assumes being dynamic res it will drop below that resolution during more demanding areas. That feels borderline unacceptable to me. I'd rather they set a 1080p baseline and adjust settings as needed to hit that. Even if it means skipping RT or some other effects. There is a huge difference between dynamic 4k perhaps dropping to 1440p, and dynamic 1080p (possibly dropping to 720p??)
Eh it really is underwhelming given how taxing it is to perfomance, there's a chance X might run better due to not having RT.
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I agree, having the same, or very similar, graphical settings and same frame rate as the XSX with a resolution sacrifice will be the way to go I imagine.
Maybe they're talking about the Xbox One?
Call of Duty was 720p I believe. It was the subject of much warring.
If it's dynamic, 720p might be in play. The PS4 version doesn't drop near that though with the same target.
Did we ever get confirmation that the next gen patches will be out on launch day?
I've seen a late November date (I think for the PS5 disc version) and I remember seeing a December date at one point
Edit: It looks like it releases on Series X on November 10 and release on PS5 November 24..... maybe
I've seen a late November date (I think for the PS5 disc version) and I remember seeing a December date at one point
Edit: It looks like it releases on Series X on November 10 and release on PS5 November 24..... maybe
Series S was a mistake.
but ray tracing or not, the game is a snoozefest anyways, it won´t be better with some rt reflections.
but ray tracing or not, the game is a snoozefest anyways, it won´t be better with some rt reflections.
Just as a note: the difference in clarity between the modes on PC FROM ultra to Medium was not internal resolution (they all ran nearly the same between the settings, if resolution would be changing there would have been big performance differences between them). There was no res change there. Rather the filtering method changed from Bicubic (ultra sharp) to lessened levels of linear filtering on high and Medium. A res difference would not produce a scenario I think where lower res does that.
Source here is the developers.
Not necissarily. The Series S also apparently has very capable machine learning hardware. It's probably only a matter of time before AMD's Super Resolution is used to consistently get games at 1440p, maybe even 1440p 60 with Ray Tracing, but we have yet to see how good this feature turns out.
This is 1080p with Ray Tracing, quite respectable considering the GPU in this box. We also have numerous games at 1440p and above on Series S, like Gears 5, all enhanced X360 and OG Xbox games, probably almost every 1st party MS game, Dirt 5 etc.
But let's be honest, this consoles main purpose is for people stuck on a 1080p TV who don't want, need, or care about 4k, not for the pixel counters.
Wow that's a hot take. Come on.
Some of the comments on Era lately are embarrassing.
The standard for a next gen launch, it always happens, don't sweat it
Series S will show itself up in next gen games, if devs implement sampler feedback and take full advantage of the GPU it's going to do a lot more than this.
Take Battlefield 4 for example, it ran at 720p on the Xbox one. Battlefield 1 also ran at 720p but it looked a generation better than the former.
Series S will show itself up in next gen games, if devs implement sampler feedback and take full advantage of the GPU it's going to do a lot more than this.
Take Battlefield 4 for example, it ran at 720p on the Xbox one. Battlefield 1 also ran at 720p but it looked a generation better than the former.
Oh thanks for the clarification. Personally I prefer the look of the linear filtering to the bicubic one (ideally the second highest option). The former to me looks smoother and less edgy if that makes sense. And even though the reflections cut off is lower than the highest setting, for me the difference is barely noticeable, and extra performance and smoother looking reflections (even if slightly softer) is preferable imo.
Switch releases have started being sub 720p so I assume this is basically guaranteed since apparently someone thinks that low of resolution is acceptable
I'm not concerned by now. This game is releasing in like... 9 platforms? Ico on PS2 was sub-240p. Xbox One got lots of 720p on the first years as well. Things will get better as cross-gen ends and the games can be fully optimized for XSS, XSX and PS5.
you don't find it genuinely concerning that a console yet to be released is pushing games out that run at sub-2007 tv resolutions?
Are you serious? That ML hardware is not dedicated, if you want to use GPU for ML your graphics resources take a hit.
You think Series S does this game with dynamic 1080p and 30fps with no raytracing?
Thats like PS4 base territory
I don't think the series S is on any kind of trouble until actual game design is affected.
Folks screaming about the drop in resolution just sound like they'll latch onto any resolution that isn't 1440p and be extra negative. Lame stuff since its using ray tracing at the start and that is considered computationally expensive.
Folks screaming about the drop in resolution just sound like they'll latch onto any resolution that isn't 1440p and be extra negative. Lame stuff since its using ray tracing at the start and that is considered computationally expensive.
I don't. Not when it's an unoptimized open-world game with raytracing and the console in question is $300.