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Ubisoft Support Page: PS5 doesn't support PS1, PS2 or PS3 BC [Update: Page removed]
- Thread starter Lant_War
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Go to the link yourself. The question being answered by Ubisoft is solely about PS4 BC on the PS5. Their answer is a single, complete response to that question. There is no logical reason to even mention PS1-PS3 in that context unless it was to make clear that while some PS4 BC games will support online support on the PS5, none of the PS1-PS3 BC games will support it.
People love to say that they want backwards compatibility but when the day comes and it actually comes out, I bet you 1% of people will actually use it. People just want to demand things be given to them and the second they get it, they lose interest completely and beg for another feature.
PS Now isn't emulation, games on PS Now run on PS3/PS4 hardware.
Xbox only supports "supported" titles as well. No console is 100% on their back titles.
I'd have to wonder how they'd do copy protection since people figured those systems out completely, modern games require firmware updates or the game won't play and you can't really do that with old discs. They'd have to let it rock with burned discs but they don't wanna figure out new ways to sniff out copy protection for old games that can't be online so they probablly don't wanna bother. PS3 emulation is still spotty unless the emu-team focuses on specific games on PC, but PS1 and PS2 have no technical barrier just the question on how they would tell pirated copies appart now.
It's obvious (if this is true across the PS5) that Sony simply does not care about BC in general.
PS3 I understand why it would never happen. But PS1 and PS2 are *choices* Sony is making not to support.
There are emulators for both out there and Sony has already done it themselves before.
I think this is one huge area MS can draw a sharp distinction with Sony on, and they should capitalize on it.
My shelf of PS1, 2, and 3 games sits in my room gathering dust, while I'm able to play a lot of my 360 games, with upgrades,
on the MS machines. I do care about BC, so it's a big deal to me.
I'll still get both consoles eventually for next gen, but this is a very, very disappointing move for Sony imo.
PS3 I understand why it would never happen. But PS1 and PS2 are *choices* Sony is making not to support.
There are emulators for both out there and Sony has already done it themselves before.
I think this is one huge area MS can draw a sharp distinction with Sony on, and they should capitalize on it.
My shelf of PS1, 2, and 3 games sits in my room gathering dust, while I'm able to play a lot of my 360 games, with upgrades,
on the MS machines. I do care about BC, so it's a big deal to me.
I'll still get both consoles eventually for next gen, but this is a very, very disappointing move for Sony imo.
Sony has only ever expressed interest in supporting PS4 games going forward, but I can't think of a better way to celebrate the PS2's 20th anniversary this year than supporting PS2 games on PS5. I'm not as concerned with PS1 games since I have my PS3, Vita, and PS1 for that, and I don't see PS3 backwards compatibility happening, but I'd be pleased to have any legacy PlayStation support in the future.
Amazing how Sony went from stellar at BC over its first couple console gens to complete fucking failures at it.
the thing that is frustrating is they have a damn treasure trove of PS1 games already sitting on psn ready to be sold, if they would just put a fucking emulator on the PS4 and 5
and I've thought about maybe the licensing deals with those publishers only listed PS3/psp/Vita and they would need to do all new deals but...PS1 classics were a thing long before the Vita came out. which means the licensing terms should allow new consoles to buy the games off of psn, no?
I fucking doubt Sony went through the trouble of relicensing every single PS1 classic for the Vita
and I've thought about maybe the licensing deals with those publishers only listed PS3/psp/Vita and they would need to do all new deals but...PS1 classics were a thing long before the Vita came out. which means the licensing terms should allow new consoles to buy the games off of psn, no?
I fucking doubt Sony went through the trouble of relicensing every single PS1 classic for the Vita
Ubisoft is making a general outline for their games.
As in Ubisoft titles from PS3,PS2,PS1 won't be supported. Lets say Sony introduces BC and PS1 Rayman don't work...well they clearly told you it wasn't supported. Ask Sony instead. Thats what I'm getting.
I dont have hopes of any BC modes other than ps4 at this point. Its clear Sony is not doing what MS is doing. Still this posting from Ubisoft is not really a confirmation for Sony. Not saying to keep the dream alive either. BC is likely not gonna even be brought up by Sony lol.
As in Ubisoft titles from PS3,PS2,PS1 won't be supported. Lets say Sony introduces BC and PS1 Rayman don't work...well they clearly told you it wasn't supported. Ask Sony instead. Thats what I'm getting.
I dont have hopes of any BC modes other than ps4 at this point. Its clear Sony is not doing what MS is doing. Still this posting from Ubisoft is not really a confirmation for Sony. Not saying to keep the dream alive either. BC is likely not gonna even be brought up by Sony lol.
Fine by me, I'd rather have remasters if they're not gonna work on emulating these games with improvements anyway. PS4 BC is what I'm looking for mostly.
If I have any "real" takeaway, it's this and specific to Ubisoft titles in regarding support. The XSX FAQ that is even linked in this one regarding BC on it doesn't make any mention of OG or 360, yet we "know" what is currently working on the One will work on the X Series. Why was the PS5 FAQ singling that one particular aspect out?
With Sony first party exclusives coming and PS1 through PS3 emulation, PC is becoming the definitive Playstation platform.
This sounds like Ubisoft just repeating the information that's already out there.
I'm still hopeful that Sony will introduce some form of backwards compatibility for PS1, PS2 and PS3 titles in the future.
Even if it isn't there at launch, the dream never dies.
I'm still hopeful that Sony will introduce some form of backwards compatibility for PS1, PS2 and PS3 titles in the future.
Even if it isn't there at launch, the dream never dies.
Sony's the only company to make a blu-ray drive that supposedly can't read CDs, so they're obviously doing it on purpose so people think they have an excuse for not having PS1 BC. Fun fact: If you look in your PS4 manual, you'll find it discloses the fact it has a CD frequency laser so they're not even saving money on removing it. They're just blocking CD reading.
That's a super generous reading of that page, but it's not impossible. At least with it on Ubisoft's site hopefully a journalist will actually ask Sony about it and get a response.
why do people keep on saying figure it out? Sony could create a PS5 PS3 emulator if they really wanted to but simply there's no desire to.
I assume this also includes PS2 on PS4 titles? Cause that would be really lame if so.
Hopefully Sony is working on the back compability with the older systems.
Hopefully Sony is working on the back compability with the older systems.
They re-licensed. That's one of the reasons why fewer PSone games were available on Vita (and why those available games differ by region, even though we know they're all compatible thanks to the time that Sony's whitelist temporarily broke).
It is compatible. Software emulation is doable on Slim (I think super slim is the only one that doesnt work). My fat PS3 doesn't have the emotion engine, and yet once I homebrewed it, I could play tons of PS2 games (YMMV)
I would have to imagine it would be, especially with Sony having in-house documentation on how the PS3 works. The PS5 is more powerful than some of the PCs that are running the PS3 emulator, right? Seeing what enthusiastic (and talented) people were able to build with RPCS3, I think Sony could have had a nice official solution. But I'm also not a software developer so I'm talking completely unapologetically out of my ass.
Just a question...but how would PSOne and PS2 games look on a 4k TV?
Is this seriously something easy to achieve while maintaining those games playable?
Is this seriously something easy to achieve while maintaining those games playable?
Now i'm curious how good is actually their BC with PS4 games. Expecting no visual improvements tbh. Just the bare minimum.
I worded it wrong, but I mean the PS2 games on PS4 as they should run with the emulator they have in place unlike the others. If that doesn't work then Sony need to fix it before launch.
Yep. There's software out there that can turn any PS2 game into a "PS2 Classic," and most of them are fully playable and run very well. Only a select few don't work or have major issues.
I don't think this is true. It's not clear the degree of effort and costs it will take to make this run on the PS5. Everything is a trade off. But to say they don't care would not really be true.
The PS2, PS3, and Vita, and now PS5 all made significant efforts to offer some degree of backward compatibility.
Yup. OG PS3 for life. I know people say it's a time bomb, but I take care of mine, and it's still going. Helps I only use it occasionally.
They look poor (PSone especially, a lot of PS2 games still look reasonably okay), but they're playable. Especially so for 2D games - lots of PSone 2D games would not look significantly worse on an emulator than any of the many games available through classic compilations.
There is, but PS3 is still very hard to emulate, about over 50% of titles are unable to work properly and generally need beefy rigs to work smoothly.
This isnt something sony can "figure out" emulation is very hard. Heck only in the recent years have PS2 games been mostly working so good that you can run them with higher resolutions and fancy shaders and AA options and still for PS2 the compatibility in emulation is still not 100% of all titles.
the Cell processor is incredibly hard to emulate.