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Ubisoft Spent Years Protecting Mental And Physical Abusers (The Jimquisition)
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You really over estimate the influence ERA has. ERA's nowhere near as big as Neogaf in its prime. We're still at the infancy. As others have pointed out, if they banned Ubi Soft outright, then there's no other outlet willing to expose them for who they are.
We can use the Ubi Soft game threads to constantly remind people of how bad this company is.
That is interesting if worrying information. Thank you for sharing.
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I don't want to start a big thing about era being hypocrites because we are not a collective but the response to this controversy vs other controversies in the gaming industry has been massively disappointing to me. Same with the Harry Potter trans issue. Same with the Uyghur slave labour issue. When Blizzard fucked up with Hong Kong issues it got a huge backlash rightfully, I think the same level (at the very least) of response should be expected on these issues.
This shit with Ubisoft is horrific. I can't think of a worse controversy in gaming.
Fucking bravo to Jim for continuing to detail and shine a light on the bullshit these companies try to hide or make excuses for
I see no foreseeable future where I'd feel comfortable supporting Ubisoft again. I've boycotted publishers for much, much less with ease. Like Jim said, Ubisoft seems thoroughly rotten to the core.
[Liberation] Sexual harassment at Ubisoft: "We knew". (>100 cases from harassment to rape, half were known to HR, toxicity tolerated with results)
This seriously deserves another thread given it's newly reported and flying under the radar. Investigation piece by France newspaper, the Liberation - goes deeper into the deeply toxic culture at Ubisoft and how HR and leadership protects them, so long as they deliver the results...www.resetera.com
Multiple Ubisoft leaders implicated in horrifying and systemic sexual misconduct, still not fired (details inside)
Edit: Here's a human translation of another article on the matter and parts of the one I originally linked. http://www.dulcamarra.net/2020/07/02/english-translation-of-a-press-article-by-liberation-about-allegations-against-ubisot-about-sexual-misconduct/...
Thanks for the links.
It's going to be a long fucking time before I even think about buying another product from Ubisoft again.
Nice that a video kind of rekindled the topic and thanks for reposting the threads detailing the horrifying multiple accounts of despicable, inhuman but sadly-very-human behaviors/acts.
For those not familiar with French media Liberation is a well respected institution/news outlet so the reports do hold much credibility.
To add insult to injury, yeah, there was not much traction here on this topic, got flooded with "Which Ubi will you purchase next? " kind of threads... to the point one might wonder whether there was a concerted covert effort to bury this "cannot be unread/forgotten" reports.
This whole debacle proved to me that Easy Allies is nothing but a meaningless hype machine with little to none journalistic integrity.
This honestly feels like it could apply to 99% of the people who cover games in any capacity.
How about putting a big ol' disclaimer on every Ubisoft game thread reminding people that the company coddled abusers for years.
Would be something at least.
Would be something at least.
I don't think it's good for the forum or for anyone to forbid talking about Ubisoft games.
No, we need to talk about their games. Because talking about their games means someone will bring up the harassment and the malice going on there, and therefore someone who didn't know will now know what has been going on; have a disclaimer with information and the Liberation articles.
No, we need to talk about their games. Because talking about their games means someone will bring up the harassment and the malice going on there, and therefore someone who didn't know will now know what has been going on; have a disclaimer with information and the Liberation articles.
Never gonna happen, they're too big.
I'm still baffled that yves guillemot will continue as CEO - you'll never convince me that he didn't know the horrid shit that was going on at the highest levels of the company.
I feel like their games in the last gen have become bigger and bigger, but at the same time less creative and basically soulless.
Now that story, I am definitely out and not buying any games of Ubisoft. They have convinced me with several reasons to not buy their stuff.
Now that story, I am definitely out and not buying any games of Ubisoft. They have convinced me with several reasons to not buy their stuff.
I think having a symbol attached to each Ubi thread to mark them wouldn't be a bad idea.
Or a disclaimer in every thread about Ubi that they protect rapists?
Or a disclaimer in every thread about Ubi that they protect rapists?
100% agreed, great post and well said. A lot of the disdain people have for Jim is because he's attacking their favourite company, it's always been transparent and it always will be
On topic, it's abhorrent what has happened and is probably still happening at Ubisoft. I hope they manage to actually sort themselves out. I'd be fine if mods wanted to add a disclaimer to Ubisoft threads for the foreseeable future so the issue isn't swept away
yep, Ubisoft threw some smoke grenades with their two weeks of "leaks" and game event and gaming media happily eat it up as well as many people who just don´t want to hear this stuff because they are/were too excited to play the same games for the third or sixth time and give a multi billion company their hard earned money, it is really sad.
another reason for people to think twice about a digital only console. if you want to play Ubi games, buy them used from here on out.
with digital sales the money goes directly to them.
and Sterling basically says what i suspected for a long time, many review outlets just don´t want to give up their privilege to get review copies, invites to preview events and other goodies so they are not covering this stuff at all or give milder scores than a game deserved here and there. but that is not only a thing when it comes to Ubisoft unfortunately. many review outlets are just an advertising arm of the publishers/industry as a whole.
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Wasn't there an article recently that mentioned Naughty Dog doing such a thing as well? That developers have a certain arrangement where employees cannot do a job interview elsewhere because they are being denied. It is an incredibly sick industry that needs to change fast. I know it is kind of a different subject but it still boils down to the same principle. Developers have too much control over an employee.
Like Jim said, either he's complicit or he's a complete incompetent who couldn't notice the smoke from a trash fire that has been burning right under his nose for at least a decade.
The former is much more likely btw.
This needs to happen. Era is supposed to be a bastion of progressive ideals. We should not be giving Ubisoft a platform to promote their games. It is ridiculous that with news provided we still allow talk of them here. It just proves Ubisoft approach to get money over everything worked since people care more about the games than people.
The same man who allowed this culture to fester and flourish on his watch in his own company now overseeing the "cultural changes" in the same company is gross as hell and not at all encouraging.
The problem is that, if the forum bans Ubi (I wouldn't care btw), why not ban CDPR, THQ Nordic and everyone else? Soon wouldn't be any big pub left in a gaming forum.
I think the best idea is to spread awareness and demand changes, Era is basically the only gaming place that does that.
Yeah I think banning of ALL Ubisoft products doesn't actually fix the problem, especially when Ubisoft is currently committed to making changes to fix the issue. It's too little too late for the dozens of victims, but it is steps in the right direction finally.
I am completely fine with banning those companies as well until they have shown to not be a place where they value money over people.
Hell I am still surprised we continue to allow THQ after the whole 8-chan thing since the people involved still have a job there.
However, Ubisoft has over 100 cases of known sexual harassment and rape. Over a 100 known cases and they did nothing until now.
fuck ubi. We're only making changes because we finally got bad press, caught and called out on it.
If they were committed they'd have canceled or move their teaser show back.
People stepping down isn't a sign of commitment. Those people are still gonna get paid, and get off scot free.
As Sterling pointed out, this all happened under his watch, so either he knew or he is extremely incompetent. Either should have him step down as well.
that doesn't sound like a problem, that sounds like a solution
Sounds like a solution to me. There are plenty of companies, both indie and AAA, that we can talk about that doesn't have sexual assault abusers, racists or homophobes working for their company.
And add Warhorse Studios to that list as well. That fuck Dan is still working there. He is a racist bitch and the reason why I will not buy Kingdom Come Deliverance.
Seriously Jim's best video. I hope he focuses on issues like this and crunch within the industry (his MTX videos are hit or miss and make his brand feels more like "angry gamer guy" and less "game critic").
Every Ubisoft game (and CDPR and THQ Nordic) should have a mod edit listing the known harms at the top of the thread.
Every Ubisoft game (and CDPR and THQ Nordic) should have a mod edit listing the known harms at the top of the thread.
Finally got around to this. Well done and quite sad. Nothing to really add other than slight guilt on recently picking up Black Flag on sale. There's a chance for Ubisoft to do the right thing, but their behavior so far doesn't instill a lot of confidence. Yves has to go and I just don't see that happening. Story has to get even bigger and start pressuring investors.
Finally finished this over lunch. Good video and glad he's bringing it to light. More game journalists need to do this, but like he and others have said, on the boards here, some of the journalists are nothing more than an extension of publisher's PR branches. And that's a damn sad thing. Also wasn't aware of some of the details of the accusations. Glad I now know.
Quoting this because it needs to be repeated. He's always shown the seedy workings of these major corporations, has been on the side of consumers, and been an ally to minority groups. Those who want to pair him with the same likes of others you've mentioned are just telling on themselves.
I almost fell into this as well. Last week, one of IGNs podcasters mentioned Far Cry 3 on sale for $3 and I almost jumped on it. Never got around to it over the weekend and now I'll definitely not after hearing this story. It's easy to say I'll be "boycotting" them now, but the last game of theirs I bought was AC Syndicate or Watch Dogs 1 YEARS ago, so I'm not sure how much weight that would really hold. But I can make an effort to avoid the sales at least.
Quoting this because it needs to be repeated. He's always shown the seedy workings of these major corporations, has been on the side of consumers, and been an ally to minority groups. Those who want to pair him with the same likes of others you've mentioned are just telling on themselves.
I almost fell into this as well. Last week, one of IGNs podcasters mentioned Far Cry 3 on sale for $3 and I almost jumped on it. Never got around to it over the weekend and now I'll definitely not after hearing this story. It's easy to say I'll be "boycotting" them now, but the last game of theirs I bought was AC Syndicate or Watch Dogs 1 YEARS ago, so I'm not sure how much weight that would really hold. But I can make an effort to avoid the sales at least.
Yeah, me boycotting them doesn't do much either. The last other game of theirs I can remember buying was Mario vs Rabbids. I'll still make the effort like I do with THQ Nordic, but I'm typically just not their target demographic.
Yeah. It's ridiculous how people here attack Jim for being "negative" and I saw a lot of people going after him because he is somehow responsible for people attacking Naughty Dog over TLOU2. Or people being super dismissive of him because "lol oh here he goes talking about lootboxes again zzzzz". It's just sad :/
Jim is pretty much the only gaming youtuber I follow, his voice is so important and I appreciate how he'll talk about issues that other people do not. It's honestly sad how little attention this is getting on here.
