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Ubisoft: PC pre-orders for The Division 2 are higher than the original (6X rise on uPlay)
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What growing list ? Only The Division 2 and Metro Exodus did as such.
As i replied to him that is kinda not honest way to look at things. Division 2 is sequel to popular game so game would probably have higher pre-orders no matter what.
He probably meant CoD BO4 but again that is not honest way to look at things, CoD numbers were up largely because of BR mode.
People are seriously misreading that statement. Ubisoft is saying Pre-orders are higher overall with Uplay experiencing a 6 times increase.
Without knowing the ratio of Uplay to non-Uplay for Division 1 it still is feasible that EGS is still getting a lot of pre-orders.
Without knowing the ratio of Uplay to non-Uplay for Division 1 it still is feasible that EGS is still getting a lot of pre-orders.
Maybe CoD, too. But, I agree as a PC player I don't really feel this "growing list". Could be the types of games I play, though. Maybe I'm out of the loop.
Do keep in mind that if you have ever played a Ubi game on PC before, you already have Uplay. A lot of pre orders for the Epic store is stretching it. Unless, somehow a bunch of Fortnite only players have suddenly decided to buy the Division 2. Hint...they still need Uplay.
That's kind of what it looks like, but Epic's made it clear their primary motive is actively hurting Steam so greasing the wheels on getting Ubisoft off is probably in their interest even if the bulk of the immediate benefit goes to Ubisoft rather than Epic.
Ofcourse you need uplay to run it but you don't need uplay to pre-order. Considering how much Steam gets overall sales it would be something else if Uplay got more than 30% of the preorders for Division 1.
The thing is those multi-million sellers of Ubisoft games on Steam, all of those owners have uplay installed (unless they quit playing said game and uninstalled uplay). We already know uplay sales are high for their games due to 3rd party key sites and physical copies coming with uplay codes. Plus Uplay isn't hated like Origin or other non-steam clients.
Ubisoft wins here. Doubt the sales of Division 2 will be much lower than Division 1, but they get 100% of the profit (since the number of people who wil buy on the epic store is probably low, but who knows I could be wrong).
Ubisoft wins here. Doubt the sales of Division 2 will be much lower than Division 1, but they get 100% of the profit (since the number of people who wil buy on the epic store is probably low, but who knows I could be wrong).
Ubisoft was always going to leave Steam.
Uplay doesn't exist just for funsies. The Epic Store was just a happy coincidence.
Why did I see someone in Mat's replies saying preorders were bad so they're bundling in a game
That is a standard thing to boost preorders and almost all the games they're offering are ones with copious DLC
That is a standard thing to boost preorders and almost all the games they're offering are ones with copious DLC
Is it possible to buy the game cheaper via VPN in a different region like on steam?
Well. We'll never know either way I guess. Epic doesn't give out any data.
I'm honestly surprised, the lukewarm reception here on ERA would indicate that this wasn't the follow up to the best selling new IP of the generation 😂.
If I'm honest, Era has a pretty big blind spot when it comes to Ubi games
Ghost Recon Wildlands was absolutely massive, but you wouldn't know it from in here
The rest of their games have very quietly done big numbers too, continuously
Uplay especially gives stuff away and has wild sales all the time.
It seems Ubisoft is all about the launch window.
I see Ubisoft is going for the PuA tactic of getting a ugly wingman to make yourself more attractive in comparison.
I can't wrap my head around the idea that pulling the game from Steam has increased preorders.
I think preorders have gone up from the first game to the second game.
And I think they have pulled the sequel from Steam.
But pulling the sequel from Steam has not been the cause of increased preorders.
Yeah I'm thinking it's more about them just dumping all their marketing buckaroos into pushing uPlay tbh
Epic's major goal is to cripple Steam. This deal did just that.
It seems like the less ambiguous phrasing would've been: Division 2 pre-orders up in comparison to first game despite leaving Steam.
Well I think they did a reasonably good job of supporting the first game, and plenty of people picked it up on the cheap way after release, and these are the audience for a sequel.
Yeah, I had a similar take.
These looter\GAAS titles are in demand right now. Just not on ERA I guess :P
true, also R6 Siege , I will not be surprised if D2 sells more than D1
Yup. That was me. Needed to play the beta before making a definitive decision.
More and more I think this dude has no idea how to interpret data.
The Division 2 was always going to do The Division 1. It will happen on consoles too. That has nothing to do with Steam.
Well, If im buying Division 2 I will also do it on UPlay, so of course there will be an icnrease when leaving Steam.
I preordered the digital gold edition on Xbox Live before the private beta even went up. My friends and I were huge into the first one and we had no doubts on our minds Ubisoft would deliver with the 2nd because of how much they supported the first one.
Cannot wait till March 11th.
Nobody thinks that, as far as I can tell.
People want the game. What the numbers we've seen show is that the AAA publishers don't need Steam. They have enough presence that people are going to buy their game, no matter where it is.
Ubisoft goes hard in on digital sales after only a month or two, though. Most publishers try to ride it out to maximize profit, but even when Ubisoft games are selling well, they'll hand out 50% discounts like candy.
It seems Ubisoft is wanting to transition to GaaS revenue over retail revenue a lot more than some of the other publishers (trading the money you make from selling the game for money you make by having more people playing and paying).
Data interpretation is a field in and of itself. Bad interpretation and bad communication of results happens very often unfortunately.
Clearly you missed the "video game analyst hot take" that people keep quoting :P
Yup. Ubisoft found the rubes that said, "I'll just get it on Uplay anyway."
All according to keikaku.
That's just it. Bad writing even if unintended. Silly but common. Econometrics 101: communicate clearly even if it sounds really dumb and obvious.
What my tweet states is that games are "seeing better results and higher margins." Emphasis on margins.
I didn't say that leaving Steam causes higher pre-orders. There are an unquantifiable number of factors that influence consumer behavior and cause pre-orders (which never are on a normalized sales trajectory) to do what they do.
Only point is that it's another example of a company being pleased with the results they've seen so far by moving away from Steam to other storefronts and strategies. No idea if it continues or to what scale.
I wonder if it is all the pre order bonuses like beta access? And it is hilarious that Epic is paying Ubisoft to keep it off Steam while getting the vast majority of preorders on Uplay.
I might have preorderd if the 20% off Uplay codes you get from points worked in the US. Unlike the UK where you can use it on preorders repeatedly, in the US it is a one time use thing and only can be used on games 3 months old that aren't on sale, ie, kind of useless aside from using it on DLC that's rarely discounted outside of gold editions.
I might have preorderd if the 20% off Uplay codes you get from points worked in the US. Unlike the UK where you can use it on preorders repeatedly, in the US it is a one time use thing and only can be used on games 3 months old that aren't on sale, ie, kind of useless aside from using it on DLC that's rarely discounted outside of gold editions.
A publisher releasing a game on their own storefront? HOW OUTRAGEOUS
Isn't it up to STEAM now to drop their cut to Epic Store levels if they want Ubisoft back? The ball is in Valves' court.