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Ubisoft Forward |OT| Road to Eden
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Yeah there is no way these two things can exist on the same show. Guillemot did release a statement on a blog post promising to open up "listening sessions" to aid victims but I doubt if most people considering whether to see this, read that.
It should have been delayed and there should have been a video a week before this announcement, addressing the outcome of the allegations and measures taken to prevent that.
I for one won't be able to enjoy or support Ubisoft presently. They need to clean up the garbage from top-down and compensate the victims and tear down the toxic culture. There is no piece of entertainment that's worth ignoring tears of sexual assault victims.
FUCK NO.
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Yeah... The thing not only is widespread, but it comes from the upper management, it's ingrained in the company, from the other thread:
Rodrigues solitaire:
Maxime:
So Yves' second in command:
Morrigan:
And this will be swept under the rug, they know we have short attention span, more in lieu of videogame announcements:
Rodrigues solitaire:
Maxime:
So Yves' second in command:
Morrigan:
And this will be swept under the rug, they know we have short attention span, more in lieu of videogame announcements:
If Ubisoft Forward has enough exciting announcements it will be more than enough to wash over the news of various allegations against higher-ups and HR unfortunately
Look at how quickly people forgot about Blizzard's actions after Blizzcon last year
Look at how quickly people forgot about Blizzard's actions after Blizzcon last year
Wider gaming public was always going to not care. But a lot of people here and in my social bubble remember. It's anecdotal, for sure, but not everyone forgot.
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Ah yes, unlike the "Omg, I'm so excited for this" posts. Those add a lot to the discussion, right? Yes, those really get the conversation going.
Ok, Ubi fanboy.
Imagine using this dumb "if you dont like it, why are you here?" rhetoric in an online forum.
As I said in the other thread, I find it extremely gross that we have a dedicated thread about Ubisoft's big commercial that is going to overshadow the recent stories about the rampant sexual misconduct at the company. Separate threads about announcements and trailers will be made anyway, I don't think we need to promote a marketing event more than is necessary, especially right now. I really hope the admins and mods reconsider their position on this.
I'm confused by the name Ubisoft Forward. Is this about games 2020-2022 or games 2018-2020 ?
silly reference
silly reference
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Will grab Watch Dogs 2 for free, and guess am interested if God and Monsters pops up here. Not looking good with some recent stuff through.....
I think it may be kinda obvious that I want a new Rayman game. I doubt it's gonna happen tho. Would love to see more of Beyond Good and Evil 2 or stuff along the lines of Mario and Rabbids 2 or a Scott Pilgrim rerelease!
The only game I am super excited about is Beyond Good & Evil 2. I haven't seen anything along the lines of "oh it won't be there this year" like they usually do, so I like to think it'll be there.
That said, I wouldn't mind hearing more about Skull and Bones or that Avatar game.
That said, I wouldn't mind hearing more about Skull and Bones or that Avatar game.
Yeah I've seen this argument before, and honestly? Positivity does add more than empty negativity. If you've got some criticism, I'm fine with that, it's welcome. You wanna trash Ubisoft for it's practices? Go for that too. But empty negativity feels pointless.
[Liberation] Sexual harassment at Ubisoft: "We knew". (>100 cases from harassment to rape, half were known to HR, toxicity tolerated with results)
This seriously deserves another thread given it's newly reported and flying under the radar. Investigation piece by France newspaper, the Liberation - goes deeper into the deeply toxic culture at Ubisoft and how HR and leadership protects them, so long as they deliver the results...www.resetera.com
Multiple Ubisoft leaders implicated in horrifying and systemic sexual misconduct, still not fired (details inside)
Edit: Here's a human translation of another article on the matter and parts of the one I originally linked. http://www.dulcamarra.net/2020/07/02/english-translation-of-a-press-article-by-liberation-about-allegations-against-ubisot-about-sexual-misconduct/...
Ubisoft leadership accused of violence and rape threats [up: 2 July: front page article in Libération, one of the biggest French newspapers]
By the founder of The Cookout: WTF... Edit: about Andie
Some reference in op please.
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I will not boycott Ubisoft for one reason and one reason only.
Sexual harassment is rampant in the games industry. Every single AAA publisher is exactly like Ubisoft. Do not fool yourself into thinking that somehow Ubisoft is worse than any other, they are not.
There's a reason there is a "whisper network" in the industry among the women, warning what men need to be avoided or otherwise dealt with.
There is a reason why you will see studio photos that have 95% men and 5% women, photo after photo, and then all of a sudden you will see a company that is almost 50% men and 50% women. That's a studio that has less sexual harassment than is normal for the industry.
Have you ever noticed that outside of mobile or facebook games you very rarely see any women developers in the 40s, 50s, or older? Do you believe the misogynistic excuse that "those games" are what women like and play? How convenient for all involved.
Women in the industry have endured and will continue to endure treatment that is worse than anything that's been sniffed out by a game journalist. Much worse.
Boycotting Ubisoft is hypocritical if you are not also willing to boycott the games industry as a whole.
Sexual harassment is rampant in the games industry. Every single AAA publisher is exactly like Ubisoft. Do not fool yourself into thinking that somehow Ubisoft is worse than any other, they are not.
There's a reason there is a "whisper network" in the industry among the women, warning what men need to be avoided or otherwise dealt with.
There is a reason why you will see studio photos that have 95% men and 5% women, photo after photo, and then all of a sudden you will see a company that is almost 50% men and 50% women. That's a studio that has less sexual harassment than is normal for the industry.
Have you ever noticed that outside of mobile or facebook games you very rarely see any women developers in the 40s, 50s, or older? Do you believe the misogynistic excuse that "those games" are what women like and play? How convenient for all involved.
Women in the industry have endured and will continue to endure treatment that is worse than anything that's been sniffed out by a game journalist. Much worse.
Boycotting Ubisoft is hypocritical if you are not also willing to boycott the games industry as a whole.
Where's the empty negativity in pointing out Ubisoft's staleness? It's the truth. Nowadays they survive by recycling IPs created over 10 years ago.
All their new IPs (BG&E2, Skull&Bones, Gods&Monsters) seem to be in development hell, all that is left is more boring, by the numbers, Ubi openworlds, that they have done over and over again.
You dont like negative comments about games you like? Fine, ignore me. But dont come at me with that "empty negativity" bullshit, while being ok with "empty positivity" just for the sake of being positive about games you like.
Reading all of the stuff that has happened with Ubisoft has definitely impacted my perception of the company. I hope that the industry as a whole is able to progress and make it so that sexual misconduct is not normalized, and punishment is handed out accordingly. The new game announcements will probably overshadow the accusations, but it is important for us to make sure that their message is not forgotten after the show.
With that being said, my general excitement levels for this event are just ok. I only deeply care about their more niche stuff (Please utilize more UbiArt Framework games please), but their general audience games don't look too bad either. We'll have to see how much Ubisoft is going to reveal regarding their upcoming projects because of CODVID-19.
With that being said, my general excitement levels for this event are just ok. I only deeply care about their more niche stuff (Please utilize more UbiArt Framework games please), but their general audience games don't look too bad either. We'll have to see how much Ubisoft is going to reveal regarding their upcoming projects because of CODVID-19.
So Yves' second in command:
And this will be swept under the rug, they know we have short attention span, more in lieu of videogame announcements:
these two people were just fired it seems.
Ubisoft montre la sortie à son président canadien
Le président des studios canadiens d’Ubisoft, Yannis Mallat, quitte l’entreprise à la suite des multiples allégations qui l’ont frappée au cours des derniers jours.
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Like most other Ubisoft announcements, it got leaked beforehand.
And technically they're resignations, but you know, potato tomato.
I'll take it.
Yeah, but they stepped down, so I wonder what deal they got; the timing makes it shines through like a pretty careful PR move.these two people were just fired it seems.
Ubisoft montre la sortie à son président canadien
Le président des studios canadiens d’Ubisoft, Yannis Mallat, quitte l’entreprise à la suite des multiples allégations qui l’ont frappée au cours des derniers jours.
Tomorrow we get the big commercial, the Ubisoft news cover the next Assasin's Creed or whatever, shareholders happy, and we forget about everything by next week.
It feels weird to be excited for a Ubisoft game with all that has come to light lately but I really want to see more of Gods and Monsters
Hope we see The Crew 3
And that they don't repeat the mistakes they made with The Crew 2 that was so bad
And that they don't repeat the mistakes they made with The Crew 2 that was so bad
I already felt weirdly guilty about being excited for a straight up Breath of the Wild clone (more BotW is always a good thing though).
...but the accusations and stories that have been revealed at Ubisoft really killed all of my excitement. I cannot emotionally seperate the two and I obviously cannot give them money if they are to continue forward without making substantial changes to their company culture.
I'm with you. I was pumped for it. Now I just feel sick.
I doubt it will be talked about at all. Most people watching do not know about it nor do they probably care. They're there to see games. I'm just being blunt about it, but that's the reality for most people tuning in. Not to mention that this is probably pre-recorded and was probably done before most anything was made public.
The sad truth of it is that the greater gaming community would have no idea of this happening, and I'm willing to bet the majority wouldn't even care if they did.
