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Ubisoft delays huge Ghost Recon Breakpoint update at the 11th hour

SJRB

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So yeah, long story short: Ubisoft promised a massive overhaul of Ghost Recon Breakpoint, based off of community input.

Original release date was "end of February 2020", and you guessed it: it got delayed to an unspecified moment in the future.

Our objective with the new immersive mode is to provide an impactful update to the game using your feedback as the foundation. The immersive mode is built upon the results of the Community Survey, your observations gathered by our Community Managers, and workshops with the Delta Company alongside extensive playtesting. We are in the process of creating an experience that will change the way you are able to play Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Breakpoint.

The complexity of integrating this new mode has proven to be a challenge and we want to ensure that the experience will be a great one when it releases.
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Ubisoft blog post

Everything that can go wrong with a game, seems to go wrong with Breakpoint. It has been a disaster from day 1.

The subreddit is pissed. And frankly I am, too. For a game that's supposed to be a "LIIIVEEE SERVICEEEEE" the dev team is crazy silent, and there are barely any updates.

I paid 100 euros for the Gold edition, lol. A harsh lesson indeed
 
PSOreo

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That really sucks for those fans, like how you can trust Ubisoft to deliver on the fixes at this point?

Edit: You can stop with the replies now. It was a real sweeping statement.
 
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Carlius

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Ya it sucks. I am waiting for them to turn this game around, even though its already better than the first game. But i need it to be better.
 
Hella

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Y'know, ever since Waypoint's Rob Zacny talked up this game I've been interested in it. This update sounds like a good opportunity...

Hope the update manages to be a big improvement, when it's ready.
 
Yuntu

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PSOreo said:
That really sucks for those fans, like how you can trust Ubisoft to deliver on the fixes at this point?
Things like this also cement to me why GAAS is awful. I can't fathom people who love the idea of "games as a service" when it has never worked.
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This just flat out wrong. "It never worked" is nonsense.
 
Fatmanp

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PSOreo said:
That really sucks for those fans, like how you can trust Ubisoft to deliver on the fixes at this point?
Things like this also cement to me why GAAS is awful. I can't fathom people who love the idea of "games as a service" when it has never worked.
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Ironically Ubisoft is one of the few companies I would trust to turn it around.
 
skeezx

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probably rolling everything into a straight up overhaul/soft relaunch

i doubt a well intentioned 'update' is going to be enough, delay or no
 
Castamere

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I hate to defend Ubisoft of all companies, but just as Devils advocate. Don't you think they hate to delay it as much as you hate it being delayed? Without the update people will be upset, bored, or wont buy the game at all. Which takes money away from them, which in turn makes it harder to develop future content and their bottom line.

Its like when you go to a restaurant and they're out of what you wanted to eat. Yeah it sucks for you, but they wanted to sell you it too. They didn't do it just to spite you.
 
RyuCookingSomeRice

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Don't pay money for "gold editions" if you have no idea if the base game will satisfy your needs. Jesus christ man, have some discipline.

the dev team is crazy silent, and there are barely any updates.
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Just as with any 'live service' game that was shit, just look at Anthem and them cancelling patches/roadmaps and staying silent all through the after release period.

I find it annoying that people still fall for this bullshit and reward Ubisoft with their money for a broken game.
 
DoradoWinston

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PSOreo said:
this also cement to me why GAAS is awful. I can't fathom people who love the idea of "games as a service" when it has never worked.
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It has and it will continue to work. An update getting delayed so that it can be continued to be worked on if anything shows they respect the community enough that when they say they are going to fix x,y,z they are actually going to fix it and arent being pushed to release an update that can maybe fix those issues while introducing more. No one makes games or works in Live Ops going "hey lets just pump this shit out, its easy."

Could the game had been better at launch? yes (there could be a hundred reasons as to why)
Could they have pushed this update forward regardless of the quality? yes
did they? no
so what are they going to do? they are going to end up working incredibly hard for even longer now because they are granted the opportunity to actually take care of the community and the game.
 
RyuCookingSomeRice

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Castamere said:
I hate to defend Ubisoft of all companies, but just as Devils advocate. Don't you think they hate to delay it as much as you hate it being delayed? Without the update people will be upset, bored, or wont buy the game at all. Which takes money away from them, which in turn makes it harder to develop future content and their bottom line.

Its like when you go to a restaurant and they're out of what you wanted to eat. Yeah it sucks for you, but they wanted to sell you it too. They didn't do it just to spite you.
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In this case, they pushed this game out the door before it was clearly ready for release. This is not on us, the consumer, but on the publisher bringing out a turd in time for sales.
 
DoradoWinston

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RyuCookingSomeRice said:
Just as with any 'live service' game that was shit, just look at Anthem and them cancelling patches/roadmaps and staying silent all through the after release period.
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ah yes the studio that is now tasked to go fucking hard on rebooting the game and giving it a second life to hope they can at least reduce the damage done by the investment on all those years of investment.
 
Dr. Ludwig

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PSOreo said:
That really sucks for those fans, like how you can trust Ubisoft to deliver on the fixes at this point?
Things like this also cement to me why GAAS is awful. I can't fathom people who love the idea of "games as a service" when it has never worked.
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Um yes it works, no need to re-write history.

Topic: After the spectacular failure of a launch, Ubisoft must have gutted the development team. They must be in no condition to ship updates on a timely manner.
 
Linus815

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can't help but to feel that it might be too late to salvage Breakpoint anyway. I think the game was far too much of a turn off from the get go to a lot of people.
 

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Every time one of these GaaS game fails, launches broken I become overjoyed lol and people still do not learn and pay for it in the end haha
 
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SJRB

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RyuCookingSomeRice said:
Don't pay money for "gold editions" if you have no idea if the base game will satisfy your needs. Jesus christ man, have some discipline.



Just as with any 'live service' game that was shit, just look at Anthem and them cancelling patches/roadmaps and staying silent all through the after release period.

I find it annoying that people still fall for this bullshit and reward Ubisoft with their money for a broken game.
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In all fairness, Wildlands was an excellent game so there was little reason to be too cautious. I don't think many people anticipated just how steep a decline in quality Breakpoint would be.

I certainly didn't.

But alas, instead of making a Wildlands 2 Ubisoft dipped their filthy, greedy hands in the GAAS-honeypot and messed it up. Ghost Recon is in shambles.
 
Jakisthe

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DamnedLife said:
Every time one of these GaaS game fails, launches broken I become overjoyed lol and people still do not learn and pay for it in the end haha
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I mean, what's to learn? GaaS is a great system, and truth be told none of the complaints I've seen leveled at it would be alleviated in a non-update sort of environment outside of wild guesses.
 
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Castamere said:
I hate to defend Ubisoft of all companies, but just as Devils advocate. Don't you think they hate to delay it as much as you hate it being delayed? Without the update people will be upset, bored, or wont buy the game at all.
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There are people who make plans to play the game on launch day, or expansion day, or a huge patch. It is the event, and delaying it at the last second is just a crappy product management. Everyone at Ubisoft knew that the patch wasn't ready days in advance.

People are already upset and bored, because they bought a half-baked potato.

EA and Ubi are like the crappy business partners. Over-promising, charging upfront and under-delivering.
 

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if saying hard truths is being prickly then fine, but sorry but not sorry for gamers being suckered into these like a gambling addiction where people are at fault as much as the casinos...
 
Hawkster

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Given the radio silence about it for the entirety of this month, I can't say I'm surprised over the delay.

And since they mention they'll give out clarifications about immersive mode for Breakpoint at March 5th, it must be pretty big.

But in all honesty, Ghost Recon is better off being developed by Ubi Montreal since Ubi Paris has been completely lackluster with their development effort on Ghost Recon.

Hell, would it hurt to at least have a weekly state of the game blog posts for the game?
 
Gamer @ Heart

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SJRB said:
In all fairness, Wildlands was an excellent game so there was little reason to be too cautious. I don't think many people anticipated just how steep a decline in quality Breakpoint would be.

I certainly didn't.

But alas, instead of making a Wildlands 2 Ubisoft dipped their filthy, greedy hands in the GAAS-honeypot and messed it up. Ghost Recon is in shambles.
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Little reason? They were dumb enough to give us all a terrible beta with every design flaw on full display coupled with all the bugs and glitches. Fans had to do alot of mental gymnastics to ever believe that could be turned around or be equivalent to wild lands in the 2 weeks before release.

Being GaaS wasn't what ruined breakpoint. Every game is basically GaaS at this point if it gets any sort of post release content updates. Half assed design decisions coupled with clearly being pushed out the door because watch dogs 3 got pushed to the next FY is why the game came out as it did. FFS they did the whole concept of breakpoint in damn wildlands dlc. Why on Earth didn't they build up from what they spent 2 years refining. The whole package just screams expansion pack inflated to full release in under a year.

Shame on them for promising communication then immediately going on a month long hiatus. There is no way they didn't know when they shipped that Terminator update that they wouldn't make February but they decided to wait until the last minute falsely giving people hope. Meanwhile, the game continues to be a buggy mess because they decided to ship so many of the much needed changes together instead of piece by piece, which would have at least given the community some hope and the appearance the game wasn't being out to pasture. The most requested feature is a fucking offline mode and they can't even deliver that. How hard is turning off a server check.

Good lord I feel sorry for the saps who bought the gold or ulimate edition. Especially after the price collapse
 
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2CL4Mars

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Ironically Ubisoft is one of the few companies I would trust to turn it around.
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It's not much of an excuse is it "we turn it around, we did it a few times already!"

So what does it say about Ubisoft when they do this over and over again. But hey Ubisoft IS GREAT...they get to much flack, they are actually better than other AAA game publishers!

Sure...
 
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2CL4Mars said:
It's not much of an excuse is it "we turn it around, we did it a few times already!"

So what does it say about Ubisoft when they do this over and over again. But hey Ubisoft IS GREAT...they get to much flack, they are actually better than other AAA game publishers!

Sure...
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Because they have consistently shown that they support games even if they aren't perfect right from the start. Look at For Honor which has a ton of post release support. Assassin's Creed Odyssey also got great support with free events and some meaty paid expansions. Both fails and successes alike get great content later on.
 
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MrConbon210 said:
Because they have consistently shown that they support games even if they aren't perfect right from the start. Look at For Honor which has a ton of post release support. Assassin's Creed Odyssey also got great support with free events and some meaty paid expansions. Both fails and successes alike get great content later on.
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Did you actually read what I wrote? I don't accept excuses when it happens over and over and ubisoft is the king of it in the triple A space. If you are fine with it, good, enjoy spending the money upfront and wait until it gets better.
 
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2CL4Mars said:
Did you actually read what I wrote? I don't accept excuses when it happens over and over and ubisoft is the king of it in the triple A space. If you are fine with it, good, enjoy spending the money upfront and wait until it gets better.
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Yes I did read what you wrote. When was the last time Ubisoft released an actual "bad" game? Breakpoint was the first time where they genuinely missed the mark. It doesn't happen over and over.
 
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RyuCookingSomeRice said:
In this case, they pushed this game out the door before it was clearly ready for release. This is not on us, the consumer, but on the publisher bringing out a turd in time for sales.
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Ubisoft aren't even remotely close to EA, their ongoing support for their games is pretty much industry leading. Breakpoint is really their only significant fuck up.
They can be criticized for releasing samey products, but out of the "big three" publishers (Ubisoft, EA, Activision) they are by an absolute mile the best in terms of their attitude to their products and customers.
 
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Silvergun-Blue said:
Ubisoft aren't even remotely close to EA, their ongoing support for their games is pretty much industry leading. Breakpoint is really their only significant fuck up.
They can be criticized for releasing samey products, but out of the "big three" publishers (Ubisoft, EA, Activision) they are by an absolute mile the best in terms of their attitude to their products and customers.
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ahh yes, their invasive DRM, inability to play games offline in many cases, continued push for MTX and levelling mechanics in all of their titles

Such a good attitude towards their customers, they totally dont see us as walking wallets
 
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