• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
  • We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.

Adamska

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
7,042
Luckily, Unity and Black Flag are absent from that list. And those are the only AC games I own on PS4.
 

Femto0

Banned
Apr 28, 2018
2,591
User banned (3 weeks): Trolling. Prior bans for similar behavior.
So Sony lied to their customers? Lmno imagine if it was Ms or Nintendo to do this
 

Nostremitus

Member
Nov 15, 2017
7,777
Alabama
I have no idea.


Well, friend I said that so we can dismiss the word from the discussion on both our parts, not just yours. I'm not defending Sony and Sony doesn't need my defense. The rest of your comment is the typical deflection of having nothing else to add to this discussion. It's cool, but I wouldn't spend anymore energy on being upset on this trivial issue.
Good, choosing not to be upset just because something doesn't paint your preferred manufacturer in a good light is the first step. Now repeat after me. "Sony intentionally convoluted their list in order to make it look like more games are compatible than actually are by only listing games that wouldn't boot at all as incompatible without considering if the bootable games were playable or not"

Yeah, it's bizarre that people keep denying a statement from Ubisoft on their official website. Ubisoft are listing particular games that won't work on PS5. What more clarification do people want? The publisher would never put up a statement like this on their website if they aren't sure of it. Even if the games boot up on PS5, they clearly have some serious issues that would make even Ubisoft classify them as incompatible. The publisher would never call their own games incompatible on a platform unless there's a good reason for it, because losing potential sales is the last thing a publisher wants.

Exactly, why would Ubisoft tell people not the buy their games unless doing so would damage their brand due to the games running so poorly. And let's be honest, this is Ubisoft, they must run really bad for them to think performance isn't "good enough."
 
Last edited:
Oct 27, 2017
5,807
I really hope this ends up being nothing.
I don't care about any of those games but this thread has me worried about what other games might have issues. I never bought a Pro, figuring that a PS5 would do the same job. Now I'm wondering if I should just grab a used Pro. I guess I'll just wait and see. I'm sure someone will test these games.
 

DeadDuck144

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 16, 2020
636
If anyone's interested in trying to find what games are marked as bootable by psn, I can write bad python scripts all day.
Anomaly 2
Daylight
Dead Nation™ -黙示録-
Dead Nation™: Apocalypse Edition
Doki-Doki Universe™
DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
Entwined™
Geometry Wars³: Dimensions
Hardware™: Rivals
How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
KickBeat Special Edition
Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
LittleBigPlanet™3
LittleBigPlanet™3 (EU)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (GB)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (LATAM)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (US)
MLB® 14 The Show™
MLB® 15 The Show™
Nobunaga's Ambition Souzou
Pinball Arcade
PixelJunk™ Shooter Ultimate
Project CARS
Pure Pool™
RIGS™ Mechanized Combat League
RISK
Senran Kagura ESTIVAL VERSUS
Super Stardust™Ultra
The Tomorrow Children™
Velocity®2X
リトルビッグプラネット™3
信長の野望・創造
小小大星球3
真・三國無双7 Empires
真・三國無双7 Empires 共闘版
真・三國無双7 with 猛将伝
真・三國無雙7 with 猛將傳
鬼斬(おにぎり)

Here's the script:
Python:
import requests
import urllib
if __name__ == '__main__':
    #go here: https://library.playstation.com/recently-purchased?smcid=web-store%3Aen-us%3Aweb-toolbar-my-playstation%3Agame%20library
    #in dev tools should see a get to something like:
    #https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility...
    #copy the cookies here:
    cookies = 'cookies go here'
    cookies = cookies.split(';')
    cookies = [c.split('=') for c in cookies]
    cookies  ={c[0]:c[1] for c in cookies}
    session = requests.Session()
    #Copy that https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility... link from above
    #and replace the title ids list after 'variables=' with {}, leave the other params (extensions, version, persistedQuery, etc..)
    url = 'https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility&variables={}&extensions=%7B%22persistedQuery%22%3A%7B%22version%22%3A1%2C%22sha256Hash%22%3A%22hashgoeshere%22%7D%7D'
    bootables = []
    #I'm doing this in 250 title chunks at a time, only did first 1000 to test.
    for i in range(1, 1000, 250):
        ids = ['CUSA{}'.format(str(j).rjust(5, '0')) for j in range(i, i+250)]
        titleIds = '{{"titleIds":"{}"}}'.format(','.join(ids))
        urlWithIds = url.format(urllib.parse.quote(titleIds))
        r = session.get(urlWithIds, cookies=cookies)
        j = r.json()
        data = j['data']['backwardsCompatibilityRetrieve']['titleBackwardsCompatibilityList']
        for title in data:
            if title['category'] == 'BOOTABLE':
                bootables.append(title['titleId'])
    #https://ps4database.io can give the title from the title id
    #note that requests are limited to 500/hr
    names = []
    for b in bootables:
        try:
            r = session.get('https://ps4database.io/dataApi?id={}_00&env=NP&method=meta'.format(b))
            j = r.json()
            name = j['names'][0]['name']
            names.append(name)
        except Exception:
            print('could not get data for {}'.format(b))
            continue
    #There are different title ids per region remove duplicates
    names = set(names)
    names = sorted(names, key=lambda x: x.lower())
    #write to file
    with open('bootableTitles.txt', 'w', encoding='utf-16') as f:
        f.write('\n'.join(names))
Thank you for this!

Worried about LittleBigPlanet 3 then. Hope Sony ensures it runs well, or even better, releases a remastered series collection.
 

Transistor

Hollowly Brittle
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
37,193
Washington, D.C.
If anyone's interested in trying to find what games are marked as bootable by psn, I can write bad python scripts all day.
Anomaly 2
Daylight
Dead Nation™ -黙示録-
Dead Nation™: Apocalypse Edition
Doki-Doki Universe™
DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
Entwined™
Geometry Wars³: Dimensions
Hardware™: Rivals
How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
KickBeat Special Edition
Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
LittleBigPlanet™3
LittleBigPlanet™3 (EU)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (GB)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (LATAM)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (US)
MLB® 14 The Show™
MLB® 15 The Show™
Nobunaga's Ambition Souzou
Pinball Arcade
PixelJunk™ Shooter Ultimate
Project CARS
Pure Pool™
RIGS™ Mechanized Combat League
RISK
Senran Kagura ESTIVAL VERSUS
Super Stardust™Ultra
The Tomorrow Children™
Velocity®2X
リトルビッグプラネット™3
信長の野望・創造
小小大星球3
真・三國無双7 Empires
真・三國無双7 Empires 共闘版
真・三國無双7 with 猛将伝
真・三國無雙7 with 猛將傳
鬼斬(おにぎり)

Here's the script:
Python:
import requests
import urllib
if __name__ == '__main__':
    #go here: https://library.playstation.com/recently-purchased?smcid=web-store%3Aen-us%3Aweb-toolbar-my-playstation%3Agame%20library
    #in dev tools should see a get to something like:
    #https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility...
    #copy the cookies here:
    cookies = 'cookies go here'
    cookies = cookies.split(';')
    cookies = [c.split('=') for c in cookies]
    cookies  ={c[0]:c[1] for c in cookies}
    session = requests.Session()
    #Copy that https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility... link from above
    #and replace the title ids list after 'variables=' with {}, leave the other params (extensions, version, persistedQuery, etc..)
    url = 'https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility&variables={}&extensions=%7B%22persistedQuery%22%3A%7B%22version%22%3A1%2C%22sha256Hash%22%3A%22hashgoeshere%22%7D%7D'
    bootables = []
    #I'm doing this in 250 title chunks at a time, only did first 1000 to test.
    for i in range(1, 1000, 250):
        ids = ['CUSA{}'.format(str(j).rjust(5, '0')) for j in range(i, i+250)]
        titleIds = '{{"titleIds":"{}"}}'.format(','.join(ids))
        urlWithIds = url.format(urllib.parse.quote(titleIds))
        r = session.get(urlWithIds, cookies=cookies)
        j = r.json()
        data = j['data']['backwardsCompatibilityRetrieve']['titleBackwardsCompatibilityList']
        for title in data:
            if title['category'] == 'BOOTABLE':
                bootables.append(title['titleId'])
    #https://ps4database.io can give the title from the title id
    #note that requests are limited to 500/hr
    names = []
    for b in bootables:
        try:
            r = session.get('https://ps4database.io/dataApi?id={}_00&env=NP&method=meta'.format(b))
            j = r.json()
            name = j['names'][0]['name']
            names.append(name)
        except Exception:
            print('could not get data for {}'.format(b))
            continue
    #There are different title ids per region remove duplicates
    names = set(names)
    names = sorted(names, key=lambda x: x.lower())
    #write to file
    with open('bootableTitles.txt', 'w', encoding='utf-16') as f:
        f.write('\n'.join(names))
Don't sell yourself short. That's some pretty good Python.
 

gofreak

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,737
If anyone's interested in trying to find what games are marked as bootable by psn, I can write bad python scripts all day.
Anomaly 2
Daylight
Dead Nation™ -黙示録-
Dead Nation™: Apocalypse Edition
Doki-Doki Universe™
DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
Entwined™
Geometry Wars³: Dimensions
Hardware™: Rivals
How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
KickBeat Special Edition
Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
LittleBigPlanet™3
LittleBigPlanet™3 (EU)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (GB)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (LATAM)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (US)
MLB® 14 The Show™
MLB® 15 The Show™
Nobunaga's Ambition Souzou
Pinball Arcade
PixelJunk™ Shooter Ultimate
Project CARS
Pure Pool™
RIGS™ Mechanized Combat League
RISK
Senran Kagura ESTIVAL VERSUS
Super Stardust™Ultra
The Tomorrow Children™
Velocity®2X
リトルビッグプラネット™3
信長の野望・創造
小小大星球3
真・三國無双7 Empires
真・三國無双7 Empires 共闘版
真・三國無双7 with 猛将伝
真・三國無雙7 with 猛將傳
鬼斬(おにぎり)

Here's the script:
Python:
import requests
import urllib
if __name__ == '__main__':
    #go here: https://library.playstation.com/recently-purchased?smcid=web-store%3Aen-us%3Aweb-toolbar-my-playstation%3Agame%20library
    #in dev tools should see a get to something like:
    #https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility...
    #copy the cookies here:
    cookies = 'cookies go here'
    cookies = cookies.split(';')
    cookies = [c.split('=') for c in cookies]
    cookies  ={c[0]:c[1] for c in cookies}
    session = requests.Session()
    #Copy that https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility... link from above
    #and replace the title ids list after 'variables=' with {}, leave the other params (extensions, version, persistedQuery, etc..)
    url = 'https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility&variables={}&extensions=%7B%22persistedQuery%22%3A%7B%22version%22%3A1%2C%22sha256Hash%22%3A%22hashgoeshere%22%7D%7D'
    bootables = []
    #I'm doing this in 250 title chunks at a time, only did first 1000 to test.
    for i in range(1, 1000, 250):
        ids = ['CUSA{}'.format(str(j).rjust(5, '0')) for j in range(i, i+250)]
        titleIds = '{{"titleIds":"{}"}}'.format(','.join(ids))
        urlWithIds = url.format(urllib.parse.quote(titleIds))
        r = session.get(urlWithIds, cookies=cookies)
        j = r.json()
        data = j['data']['backwardsCompatibilityRetrieve']['titleBackwardsCompatibilityList']
        for title in data:
            if title['category'] == 'BOOTABLE':
                bootables.append(title['titleId'])
    #https://ps4database.io can give the title from the title id
    #note that requests are limited to 500/hr
    names = []
    for b in bootables:
        try:
            r = session.get('https://ps4database.io/dataApi?id={}_00&env=NP&method=meta'.format(b))
            j = r.json()
            name = j['names'][0]['name']
            names.append(name)
        except Exception:
            print('could not get data for {}'.format(b))
            continue
    #There are different title ids per region remove duplicates
    names = set(names)
    names = sorted(names, key=lambda x: x.lower())
    #write to file
    with open('bootableTitles.txt', 'w', encoding='utf-16') as f:
        f.write('\n'.join(names))


Oh, awesome work!
 

Ryengeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
5,664
Georgia, US
When I saw that subject to change disclaimer on their BC page, I knew stuff like this would crop up.

It's going to take a community effort over some time for everyone to create a pretty comprehensive list of what doesn't work, has errors, and what works fine.

So my PS4 Pro stays.
 

cmdrshepard

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
1,557
No they didn't. They even listed a disclaimer on their backwards compatibility article from the very beginning.
They didn't lie but they mislead - when they released the earlier list it was made out that it was only those games that would be unplayable on PS4 BC. Even with "Subject to Change", why not put these games in as unplayable in that initial list - because they for sure have not gone from playable to unplayable when they made that list. They wanted to make it look like they have got this small list and mislead...

Now a whole another list appears, firstly from ubi, then from riders here having to scan the API. This is not Sony coming out to clarify their messaging, we are having to get this news through third parties and detective work and we are less than 15 days till launch.
 

MrKlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,076
Aren't RIGS, super stardust, LBP3, MLB 14 &15, and Tomorrow children all Sony published?
 

Deleted member 864

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,544
If anyone's interested in trying to find what games are marked as bootable by psn, I can write bad python scripts all day.
Anomaly 2
Daylight
Dead Nation™ -黙示録-
Dead Nation™: Apocalypse Edition
Doki-Doki Universe™
DYNASTY WARRIORS 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition
Entwined™
Geometry Wars³: Dimensions
Hardware™: Rivals
How to Survive: Storm Warning Edition
KickBeat Special Edition
Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris
LittleBigPlanet™3
LittleBigPlanet™3 (EU)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (GB)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (LATAM)
LittleBigPlanet™3 (US)
MLB® 14 The Show™
MLB® 15 The Show™
Nobunaga's Ambition Souzou
Pinball Arcade
PixelJunk™ Shooter Ultimate
Project CARS
Pure Pool™
RIGS™ Mechanized Combat League
RISK
Senran Kagura ESTIVAL VERSUS
Super Stardust™Ultra
The Tomorrow Children™
Velocity®2X
リトルビッグプラネット™3
信長の野望・創造
小小大星球3
真・三國無双7 Empires
真・三國無双7 Empires 共闘版
真・三國無双7 with 猛将伝
真・三國無雙7 with 猛將傳
鬼斬(おにぎり)

Here's the script:
Python:
import requests
import urllib
if __name__ == '__main__':
    #go here: https://library.playstation.com/recently-purchased?smcid=web-store%3Aen-us%3Aweb-toolbar-my-playstation%3Agame%20library
    #in dev tools should see a get to something like:
    #https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility...
    #copy the cookies here:
    cookies = 'cookies go here'
    cookies = cookies.split(';')
    cookies = [c.split('=') for c in cookies]
    cookies  ={c[0]:c[1] for c in cookies}
    session = requests.Session()
    #Copy that https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility... link from above
    #and replace the title ids list after 'variables=' with {}, leave the other params (extensions, version, persistedQuery, etc..)
    url = 'https://web.np.playstation.com/api/graphql/v1/op?operationName=backwardCompatibility&variables={}&extensions=%7B%22persistedQuery%22%3A%7B%22version%22%3A1%2C%22sha256Hash%22%3A%22hashgoeshere%22%7D%7D'
    bootables = []
    #I'm doing this in 250 title chunks at a time, only did first 1000 to test.
    for i in range(1, 1000, 250):
        ids = ['CUSA{}'.format(str(j).rjust(5, '0')) for j in range(i, i+250)]
        titleIds = '{{"titleIds":"{}"}}'.format(','.join(ids))
        urlWithIds = url.format(urllib.parse.quote(titleIds))
        r = session.get(urlWithIds, cookies=cookies)
        j = r.json()
        data = j['data']['backwardsCompatibilityRetrieve']['titleBackwardsCompatibilityList']
        for title in data:
            if title['category'] == 'BOOTABLE':
                bootables.append(title['titleId'])
    #https://ps4database.io can give the title from the title id
    #note that requests are limited to 500/hr
    names = []
    for b in bootables:
        try:
            r = session.get('https://ps4database.io/dataApi?id={}_00&env=NP&method=meta'.format(b))
            j = r.json()
            name = j['names'][0]['name']
            names.append(name)
        except Exception:
            print('could not get data for {}'.format(b))
            continue
    #There are different title ids per region remove duplicates
    names = set(names)
    names = sorted(names, key=lambda x: x.lower())
    #write to file
    with open('bootableTitles.txt', 'w', encoding='utf-16') as f:
        f.write('\n'.join(names))
Awesome job!
 

raketenrolf

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,216
Germany
When I saw that subject to change disclaimer on their BC page, I knew stuff like this would crop up.

It's going to take a community effort over some time for everyone to create a pretty comprehensive list of what doesn't work, has errors, and what works fine.

So my PS4 Pro stays.
Hope it's not as bad as Original Xbox bc on Xbox 360 was for those "Bootable" titles. Also, if that's the case, bc was probably an afterthought, so it's no wonder they didn't bother with PS1-3 (at least for now) until they fix PS4 bc.

In that case, they will have a lot of catching up to do but that's ok, I mean Microsoft started this years ago and improved it over time. If Sony would do the same, I would still be ok with it. A new console launches, they have different priorities for obvious reasons.
 

aspiring

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,545
Well this better end up being false I already sold my pro and will be super fucking pissed if it's not the case
 

Eeyore

User requested ban
Banned
Dec 13, 2019
9,029
Yeah I was attempting something similar to already in use and I've gotten through around 13,000 of the titles. These include different regions (US, JP, EU) and different versions of the game. I have the full list but it's indexed by the title IDs sadly. I'm currently going through and hitting the same API and I'm through around 1300 out of the 19k that I started with.

Here's a pastebin of that mapping: https://pastebin.com/vX2UzAEk

Some notable ones that I've seen so far:

Doki Doki Universe
Pinball Arcade
Velocity 2X (I really love this game)
LBP 3
The Tomorrow Children
Dead Nation Apocalypse Edition
Rigs Mechanized Combat League
Daylight
Pure Pool
Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends Edition
Pixeljunk Shooter Ultimate
Entwined
Geometry Wars 3
Lara Croft and The Temple of Osiris
Risk
Senran Kagura ESTIVAL VERSUS
Super Stardust Ultra
Project CARS
MLB 15 The Show
Hardware Rivals
Sleeping Dogs
Pure Hold'Em
Assassin's Creed Chronicles Russia
Game of Thrones
Onigiri
APB Reloaded
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires
Dead Island Retro Revenge
Star Strike Ultra (this is listed as JP so maybe this is the JP version of Super Stardust Ultra?)
Assetto Corsa
Need for Speed
Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires Free Alliances Version
Batman: Return to Arkham - Arkham City
Everybody's Golf
OKAGE: Shadow King
SMITE
Assassin's Creed Syndicate
Saint Seiya: Soldier's Soul
Roundabout
SWORD ART ONLINE Re: Hollow Fragment
MLB The Show 16

Some of these are Sony first party so I'm not sure what the hell is going on.
 

Iron Eddie

Banned
Nov 25, 2019
9,812
So Sony lied to their customers? Lmno imagine if it was Ms or Nintendo to do this
Lol, nobody is lying. It's called bugs and testing and this stuff is bound to happen but Sony really needs to explain how they are handling BC because Ubisoft made the disclaimer for the PS5, not the competing hardwares.
 

aspiring

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,545
Ok I asked this in the PS OT the other day but when you click on Assassins Creed Syndicate in the PS Store it says this

when playing this game on PS5, this game may exhibit errors or unexpected behaviour and some features on PS4 may be absent

Now I saw this on Doom Eternal and could not find it on any other game I clicked.

when you click on example Assassins Creed Origins all it says is this;

to play this game on PS5, your system may need to be updated to the latest system software

so I wonder if this means Doom Eternal will not work, or what the hell is going on. But I do know that I sold my pro on the basis that only 10 games won't work. Sure some may have error but only 10 will not boot, so will be super pissed if that's not the case
 

Qwark

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,034
Isn't the Tomorrow Children defunct? I'm not surprised that one may have slipped through then. Not discounting the rest of the list, Sony really should be more clear about this.
 

Deleted member 14927

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
648
I very much doubt they tested all games all the way through for all bugs. That's not remotely feasible.

My guess is they test them for a set period of gameplay, not the entire game. To test over 4000 games to completion (including side quests etc) is an unfathomable task.

Say those 4000 games have an average play time including side content of 25 hours, that's over 100,000 hours of game testing time, or around 12,500 days of 8 hour work day testing.

Even if you had a team of 10 people testing said games for 8 hours a day, it would take them well over 3 and a half years to test them all, since that's not taking into account data recording, notes, annotation, side work, breaks, procrastination etc.

BC will never be completely bug or problem free. You only have to Google Xbox One backwards compatibility problems to bring up a long list of people complaining about BC bugs on that system too. That's ignoring that even non BC games can have bugs. Hell, Syndicate is buggy even on the PS4 lol.
Microsoft have said they have spent over 500,000 hours on testing BC on Series S & X, so I wouldn't call it an unfathomable task.
 

Deleted member 14927

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
648
...They spent 57 years testing backwards compatibility!? Damn, no wonder it's so good :p

news.xbox.com

Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S Will Be the Best Place to Play 1000s of Games From Across Four Generations of Xbox - Xbox Wire

As gamers, we know how important it is to preserve and respect your gaming legacy. We believe your favorite games and franchises, your progression and achievements, your Xbox One gaming accessories and the friendships and communities you create through gaming should all move with you across...

Preserving and improving the thousands of games you know and love, or have yet to discover, has been a core objective since the beginning of the backward compatibility program in 2015, and with years of learnings and successes – and over 500,000 hours of gameplay testing across four generations of Xbox in the last year alone getting ready for Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S – we couldn't be more proud of the results you will be able to experience beginning November 10.

They are a huge software company, so I guess they are geared up to testing at scale. Crazy logistics at their disposal
 

mandiller

Member
Oct 27, 2017
571
Australia
Is the Division 2 getting an upgrade? I'm confused. It doesn't seem like it is but they specifically mention 'Cross progression' for it on PlayStation. If it's just the ps4 version of the game, of course my existing save is going to work on ps5. Why wouldn't it? I'm not sure why they've even mentioned that.
 

NLCPRESIDENT

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,969
Midwest
Bill Gate's grandfather was thinking about BC before the first computer even came into existence. The absolute foresight.
😆
news.xbox.com

Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S Will Be the Best Place to Play 1000s of Games From Across Four Generations of Xbox - Xbox Wire

As gamers, we know how important it is to preserve and respect your gaming legacy. We believe your favorite games and franchises, your progression and achievements, your Xbox One gaming accessories and the friendships and communities you create through gaming should all move with you across...



They are a huge software company, so I guess they are geared up to testing at scale. Crazy logistics at their disposal
Yea, I know it means man hours. But even that is crazy.
 

salromano

Mr. Gematsu
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,936
Is the Division 2 getting an upgrade? I'm confused. It doesn't seem like it is but they specifically mention 'Cross progression' for it on PlayStation. If it's just the ps4 version of the game, of course my existing save is going to work on ps5. Why wouldn't it? I'm not sure why they've even mentioned that.

Yeah that's strange wording. Prince of Persia is also not on next-gen, nor is The Crew 2.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,645
Gonna need a patch to keep Infinite Warfare's campaign mode solid pls Activision (any other improvements you want to add while you are in there will also be welcome).
 

ScoutDave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,316
I know not many people here care about Ghost Recon franchise. But i do. And it kinda makes me nervous(sad?) that neither Wildlands or Breakpoint are anywhere on that list.

Why were they omitted completely?
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,136
I know not many people here care about Ghost Recon franchise. But i do. And it kinda makes me nervous(sad?) that neither Wildlands or Breakpoint are anywhere on that list.

Why were they omitted completely?
The list in the OP are games that are NOT compatible; both the games you listed show up as being playable on the ps store following the wording used for "compatible" and "bootable" games.
 

Deleted member 1003

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,638
Bootable doesn't mean it's NOT compatible. Errors can happen in games running on emulation. I doubt this anything to really worry about. Both companies should clarify.
 

Jamix012

Member
Oct 28, 2017
289
This thread is frustrating to read. It's true we don't have all the information yet but this is pretty damning.

BC is important to many of us and to those hand waving this away because you don't care, why even bother? If you're saying that "oh it's only some Ubisoft games" I mean. Sure. But if Ubisoft is doing this do you not think other publishers will too? Ubisoft isn't known for their exceptional quality control so if their games run unacceptably do you really think it's a Ubisoft only issue?

I think it may be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to say "I'm moving to the Xbox ecosystem" because of this, but at the same time I am regretting being so tied to my PS4 library right now.
 

Deleted member 30987

Account closed at user request
Banned
Nov 5, 2017
301
This thread is frustrating to read. It's true we don't have all the information yet but this is pretty damning.

BC is important to many of us and to those hand waving this away because you don't care, why even bother? If you're saying that "oh it's only some Ubisoft games" I mean. Sure. But if Ubisoft is doing this do you not think other publishers will too? Ubisoft isn't known for their exceptional quality control so if their games run unacceptably do you really think it's a Ubisoft only issue?

I think it may be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to say "I'm moving to the Xbox ecosystem" because of this, but at the same time I am regretting being so tied to my PS4 library right now.
Maybe wait for the console to launch to let people verify to what extent issues are issues. Right now it's pointless.
 
Jan 20, 2019
10,681
This thread is frustrating to read. It's true we don't have all the information yet but this is pretty damning.

BC is important to many of us and to those hand waving this away because you don't care, why even bother? If you're saying that "oh it's only some Ubisoft games" I mean. Sure. But if Ubisoft is doing this do you not think other publishers will too? Ubisoft isn't known for their exceptional quality control so if their games run unacceptably do you really think it's a Ubisoft only issue?

I think it may be a bit of a knee jerk reaction to say "I'm moving to the Xbox ecosystem" because of this, but at the same time I am regretting being so tied to my PS4 library right now.

There is another thread, at worst it will be like 96% of the games are running without problems wilhe 4% have problems or dont run at all.

So yah, is kind of be blow out of proportion like the console doenst work at all.