Because... they tested their own games in depth beyond sticking the disc in and saying "ok title screen" next? But please go on and tell me why you think my belief in Ubisoft is strong
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Ubisoft Connect: Not all Ubisoft PS4 games will work on PS5 (update 3: Ubisoft pulled the article stating this information contains inaccuraties)
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Nobody said that. It was only said that there were going to be problems with saves for the same game if there was a free upgrade and this has absolutely been shown to be the case on several occasions
I currently do not have a PS5 sadly - I will get one soon I hope! XSX I will have sooner though.
I think it's worth pointing out that even Sony's official language suggested users test out BC games before considering any DLC purchases, because they might not work acceptably. That obviously leaves room for different people's taste/patience for problems, but it's clear enough that some games are expected to have snags. This may be an extension of that, with issues disruptive enough that they don't pass a publisher's own QA standards.
Has it even been stated that PS5 is using an emulator? I thought PS4 and PS5's use the same API's and tooling? Xbox One uses a virtual machine for BC for 360 and OG Xbox, I'd assume for simplicity they'd use a similar approach this gen. Which may explain the differences between support.
Newer API's may have some incompatibilities with older games, if you're running old OS's in a VM you're more likely to have better compatibility while sacrificing performance somewhat but with the performance gap between this gen, it's irrelevant.
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Thank you, could you reach Richard and John about that matter?
You would assume that anything game breaker would make the game enter that list, the testing team gave their feedback and it passed the certification for ''BC games that might have errors''
And this is why this situation is a mess, Ubisoft has a different understatement of ''compatible'' and they didn't explain why its not enough for them
No people speculated there could be issues due to no system wide set up like the Xbox has , and as it turns out there absolutely is with some games not putting in the extra work for cross save to work across different sku's as opposed to "smart delivery" approach of Xbox does most of the work for devs
yeah definitely, but it's no coincidence there are still ubisoft games on their list what are still listed at being "bootable" rather than compatible.
Shame I don't know how to get a list of all PS4 titleids, otherwise we could check everything very easily.
This doesn't make sense tbh. Why lie about something that's eventually going to come out anyways? Like, there's no explanation whatsoever besides Sony hiding you can play all the other mainline AssCreeds except syndicate? You think about for second.
With regard
With this in mind, if you have concerns about any other games on the list, it's best to wait until there are some independent tests done by groups like Digital Foundry, or if, like me, someone has a game on that list that may have an already existing issue.
I own a few of the games on that list, and I can give an example of how one of them works - Kickbeat Special Edition. Currently play it on PS4 Pro, and it has a few errors, mostly issues where a part of one the songs may skip (just play no music) for like a second or 2. It happens in the same place on the same song 100% of the time. Not a game-breaking issue (to me, at least).
With this in mind, if you have concerns about any other games on the list, it's best to wait until there are some independent tests done by groups like Digital Foundry, or if, like me, someone has a game on that list that may have an already existing issue.
That's one of the questions Sony should clarify. Did they just test the games if they were bootable or if they were completely playable start to finish with no bugs. Ubisoft's list suggest that Sony just tested if games were bootable and Ubisoft personally found out the games were not playable.
I really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
That is not true at all lol. Unless some people completely misunderstood the issue going on. A lot of people are confused about BC vs upgrades. But I've been in these threads a lot and not seen it.
I really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
Oh god that's honestly hilarious.
I can't imagine doing that though. I always like to keep a series on one system if I can.
wtf...hahah..feels bad.I really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
Lol if Doom Eternal has issues at launch. That would be something alright
I have absolutely no idea what's going to be honest. Ubisoft's wording suggests the games aren't compatible with the console, which implies they won't boot.
So either Sony has royally fucked up and not tested a load of games properly or Ubisoft has decided to go with the vaguest wording possible and needs to clarify what the fuck they're talking about.
So either Sony has royally fucked up and not tested a load of games properly or Ubisoft has decided to go with the vaguest wording possible and needs to clarify what the fuck they're talking about.
So ITS YOUR FAULT!I really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
I don't know if this helps:
PS4 PKG Database
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They seems to call Sony's API.
I did, so either Ubisoft is lying about their games not working, or Sony didn't do the work and just made a claim without data to back it up. Between the two, only one has something to gain for for saying something that's false. Did you stop to think about it at all?
I don't know if this helps:
PS4 PKG Database
Lookup PS4 PKG Patches by Title ID. We monitor over 5,000 games daily for new patches!
They seems to call Sony's API.
Yeah, I used that to get specific game titles, but I wouldn't know how to get it to list out every ID for a game there is..
I assume they are serialised, but I imagine many of them are for non-game things or are regional duplications
Syndicate's store page says the game may exhibit errors. The error may be the game never actually passing the start menu.
The message is purposely very open so it can cover Sony (and the publishers) in case of any error, minor or not, and let the user do the testing for them. At least Ubi is apparently testing their games and telling us now what works.
It doesn't imply they won't boot, it implies that they found errors that are beyond their acceptable Quality Control, so they are saying that those games are not compatible. They may have run more tests than Sony. What it is strange is that Sony backcompatibility team should have been working closely with big publishers.
My guess is all games start as "bootable" in Sony's DB after Sony does basic testing, and then when test results come in they either get switched to compatible or not compatible.
So the store that currently says "bootable" might change it's status if this is new info from Ubisoft.
Either way there will be games that work fine and then have random bugs that aren't found until after release, and some that may never be found. Just the nature of BC that isn't fully hardware compatible.
So the store that currently says "bootable" might change it's status if this is new info from Ubisoft.
Either way there will be games that work fine and then have random bugs that aren't found until after release, and some that may never be found. Just the nature of BC that isn't fully hardware compatible.
lol. obviously it sucks, but that's a pretty funny coincidence.I really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
Why are people being so ridiculous?
It doesn't appear anyone has lied or anybody is trying to deceive. It looks like Ubisoft's post is just just correct of this second: as some of the games on that list don't work properly and some now do.
I like that this week Ubisoft released a new game that bricked Xbox's, yet people are super confident that there will be zero issues with any of the BC Ubisoft games on Xbox.
Maybe people should just hold their horses and wait until both of these consoles launch to declare who did what best and whatnot.
Maybe people should just hold their horses and wait until both of these consoles launch to declare who did what best and whatnot.
Yes. Nobody can gain anything from lying. Let's stop using the words lie/lying. It's possible that they in fact do work on the PS5, but not to Ubisoft's liking, thus getting them pulled or blocked from ubi. I don't think any of this is malicious at all seeing as other AssCreed games work.
The "may exhibit errors" seems to correlate with what Sony's API defines as "bootable" rather than compatible
Unless one of them is just incorrect or were miscommunicated, I think this is most likely.
I very much doubt they tested all games all the way through for all bugs. That's not remotely feasible.
My guess is they test them for a set period of gameplay, not the entire game. To test over 4000 games to completion (including side quests etc) is an unfathomable task.
Say those 4000 games have an average play time including side content of 25 hours, that's over 100,000 hours of game testing time, or around 12,500 days of 8 hour work day testing.
Even if you had a team of 10 people testing said games for 8 hours a day, it would take them well over 3 and a half years to test them all, since that's not taking into account data recording, notes, annotation, side work, breaks, procrastination etc.
BC will never be completely bug or problem free. You only have to Google Xbox One backwards compatibility problems to bring up a long list of people complaining about BC bugs on that system too. That's ignoring that even non BC games can have bugs. Hell, Syndicate is buggy even on the PS4 lol.
Man, if we had like two more sentences with some swear words and a minor meltdown, this could be a copy pasta.
LOLI really hope this isn't true. I'm getting boned hard here if this is the end result LOLOLOL. This is what I mean. My Assassin's Creed purchase history since 2014.
The ONLY Time I step out, hahaha. I hope it gets fixed.
Friend, you are the one who started saying someone was lying. I said they made a statement without doing the work to prove it. If Ubisoft is making an honest claim, then it's obvious Sony didn't test before saying they worked. How is that difficult to understand? Booting a game and running it successfully are two different things. If you are having to jump through technicality hoops to defend Sony, maybe you should stop, take a breath, and realize the a mega corporation doesn't need you as a white knight savior...
If it's worse than what Ubisoft can sometimes consider compatible on current gen then we're in trouble!