Then don't create an Ubisoft account...
You get achievement pop ups... That's with or without Ubisoft Connect on console. Achievements/trophies are system level.
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UBISOFT CONNECT is ruining the console gaming experience
- Thread starter rntongo
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I think everyone agrees that people should be able to opt out. What you are seeing is people pointing out that it's hardly the hardship that the OP is trying to make it out to be, and that if this is that big of a problem for the OP then they probably wonder how the OP can even cope with life on the internet in 2021.
Ubisoft throws their own shit on top that feeds back into your account because the points go toward rewards; you get all of that. It's obnoxious, at least how it's presented on PC.
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Exactly!! Thank you!! Its such a red flag. If the service is so good why use such underhanded tactics by forcing users?
Yeah it's a nuisance tbh I don't want anything to do with it. We also pay a lot for these games tbh.
On console it's in a separate app you can choose to go to it or not... At least on Xbox.
I think people are being condescending to a paying customer that is being inconvenienced no matter how small the issue is. The point of the matter is, he shouldn't have to come on to this forum to write a complaint about it. It obviously annoyed him enough to have tall about it.
On PC, all of that stuff is overlayed in-game, on top of the regular Achievements popup.
Then there's the startup popups, and the popups you can get when you accidentally go to the rewards section in the options menu. Shit's annoying.
Alternatively they are making about as big a deal about the OP's complaint as the OP is making about not wanting to sign into Ubisoft's service. Hyperbole all around. Yup, sounds like the internet.
Privacy. The more services you sign up for, the more likelihood your data is being harvested and spread and sold all around. Have fun with spam emails too.
if i can order food online without having to make an account op shouldnt have to make another account to play a game. shouldnt expect users to make an account for every little thing they do. ive noticed more and more websites expecting me to have an account to browse or want me to login with google. just leave alone, you can do without one less cow to milk data from
Not like that on console. You get the achievement popups, but anything else you have to go into the menu and actively choose to open the secondary app to see the points and unlockables... But I do it anyway because is free gear in game, or cosmetics... I played through Origins and Odyssey on PC and don't recall any of the hassle you're describing...
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To be fair I could simply opt to use a throw away account, but companies are stake holders in society and such underhanded tactics are becoming more prevalent. Its not right to us as consumers. We should be given the option to use our services and products in the form that we paid for them. Its a major red flag when a company cripples your console experience to get you to sign up for a service. It wouldn't be prudent for any user to sign up after such underhanded tactics. If they can't even let you opt out then imagine what else they could do?
This is such weird logic
"Yeah it's bad. But what about YOUR life huh?"
how does OP's personal life even come into this at any point?
The whole topic is about the OP's personal problem with having to run their console in offline mode to play a game because they can't be bothered to create a burner account to make the problem go away.
Me "being an ass" would be me reporting your reply to my post where I don't result to ad hominem attacks and point out to the dude who called my post "dumbshit logic" that it's not "dumbshit logic" it's just how things work, there are downsides to all the upsides of modern console gaming. I won't though.
So far the "substance" of the contrarian argument is nothing more than "I want what I want because I paid for it." Which IS FINE. But it's not how this whole thing works, and it's not some world-ending, console gaming ruining step that was argued. It is annoying and a nuisance, but it is negligible in modern console gaming. And like I pointed out elsewhere: We're 10+ years past the point of no return to argue that Ubisoft making you go through a sign up process for something that the overwhelming majority of people will worry about for all of 2 seconds, and doesn't deny you the ability to play the game you purchased, just the convenience of doing so online. Everything has ups and downs.
Why not just log in? If you don't want to use your personal emailaddress just make an emailaddress specifically for stuff like this. Sounds like a non-issue to me tbh.
I signed in once on PS4 and never had to sign in with another Ubisoft game again. Not even when I had a PS5. It works automatically between games.
I signed in once on PS4 and never had to sign in with another Ubisoft game again. Not even when I had a PS5. It works automatically between games.
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Just because consumers accept online services doesn't mean some organizations can just do anything with the internet. Imagine you were required to sign into Ubisoft connect to get a patch? Wouldn't that be an overreach?
I'm going to consider that tbh.
But it is dumbshit logic because you can't compare the both of them. One is necessary the other isn't.
But if the guy wants to play the game with his console being connected online he has to create one or else he can't play the game. I didn't realise this world was full of corporate apologist.
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Because it is a non-issue. Ten times more effort has gone into complaining in this thread than just using a throwaway email to register and login, and then it leaves you alone unless you choose to go to the app. Yeah sometimes it pops up that you completed a Connect challenge or whatever but if that sets someone off I don't know how they manage the internet since about 20 years ago to today.
Sure. But...you're not required to do that. So yes, this imaginary situation you invented would be unacceptable, but it's not what's happening so I'm not sure what your point is.
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Yeah so since its a non issue they shouldn't force us to sign up for such services. Your calculator app on the phone doesn't force you to turn off the internet if you don't sign up. Same should be for an offline campaign that you paid $60 for.
A similar and equally pernicious situation is whats happening. I used that example to show how absurd the whole thing is.
Exactly!!
I honestly don't think we should just sign up for anything regardless of how technology is moving. This is a great example of when it should be optional to sign up for a service.
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Not a corporate apologist, just don't see reason for so much exaggerated hardship about it. .
You require a PSN/XBL or NN account to get patches for games on consoles, you need a Steam/ORIGIN/Uplay/EGS/etc. account to do so on PC also, so... your scenario? Already exists and happens. The overreach isn't an overreach, it's the standard. It just isn't Ubisoft controlling the platform*, and for that very reason Ubisoft can't deny you access to the product you paid money for, but Sony, MS or Nintendo can.. it's their platform.
*Unless you're on PC where you HAVE to use their platform.
No, it isn't, and you can in fact compare them both, because NEITHER of those things are necessary. Physical media ownership set the precedent and had established copyright laws in favor of consumers and fair use, digital media didn't exist until the late 90s and the DMCA threw away existing copyright laws and fair use out the window. You don't have to pay to play online games on PC, you didn't have to pay online on PSN until 2013 and you didn't have to do it on Nintendo until 2018. And games had stricter cert processes when they didn't have to be patched. None of those things are necessary, and neither is the need for an online service like Ubisoft Connect.
So yes, you can compare them, and no... it still isn't "dumbshit logic".
I don't think anyone is going to disagree with you that it's dumb you need to sign in to play an offline game. However, it takes like one minute and you never have to think of it again. Like Keldroc said; more time has gone into this thread than in logging in and enjoying the game.
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I was talking about Ubisoft requiring me to sign up for their extra services or whatever (that I don't want or need or paid for) in order to update my game after I own an Xbox or Playstation. So no that scenario doesn't exist and it would be downright absurd if it happened. Same thing with requiring me to sign up just so I can play my offline campaign I paid $60 for? Its honestly absurd. The internet doesn't require it and I won't be signing up.
Honestly thats why we come to the forums to discuss what we enjoy and also point out when things aren't working well or as consumers we're being taken advantage of. I think moving forward I may not be buying games from Ubisoft because of such underhand tactics.
Ubisoft Connect being the way that saves are done on Xbox - rather than saves being kept locally on a hard drive - is why people are losing progress on Xbox Series consoles with the Quick Resume feature. (How? On rare occasions, Ubisoft Connect needs to effectively relaunch to establish a connection - but coming back from Quick Resume means everything is picking right up where it left off, so Ubisoft Connect doesn't get to launch with the game & connect from scratch. So as the player continues their game, the game says its saving, but the game cannot connect to Ubisoft Connect - even with manual saves. The player receives a message that the game cannot reach Ubisoft's servers, but likely ignores this until they stop playing....and all that progress is for nothing.)
Read about the many, many people upset with the hours of lost save progress in Assassin's Creed: Valhalla here.
There is so much wrong with Ubisoft Connect that goes its utter intrusiveness. And its not just fundamentally flawed, either. It actively does not work well with modern consoles.
Big miss, Ubi.
Read about the many, many people upset with the hours of lost save progress in Assassin's Creed: Valhalla here.
There is so much wrong with Ubisoft Connect that goes its utter intrusiveness. And its not just fundamentally flawed, either. It actively does not work well with modern consoles.
Big miss, Ubi.
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Uh, that sounds like a "Big miss, MS" issue more than a Ubisoft Connect issue, since it seems to be tied to how Microsoft's ecosystem for the Series consoles works, not Ubisofts. Unless it's also happening on the PS5?
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Thank you. It's such a red flag how they try to force people to sign up i'm not surprised it has such issues.
I'm glad you don't have any issues with it. Its a subjective issue but I think the overwhelming consensus is it's not liked by a lot of users.
Good question.
PlayStation has the ability to upload a save to the PlayStation cloud, optionally, as well. So that if Ubi screws up a save - at least the player can download their save from the PlayStation cloud. With Microsoft, there is no optional upload of a save to a Microsoft cloud.
Side note on the PlayStation save for AC:V users - players have to manually set this to be a PSN Cloud save. And it is a good idea to make sure that save file is kept up-to-date. (A manual save that is not marked as a PSN Cloud save will just be another Ubisoft Connect Cloud save.)
But with both Microsoft and PlayStation, Ubisoft does not allow for saves to be kept locally.
Don't forget making more accounts increase the likelihood that one of them might get compromised down the future, which leads to leaked account information like email password or credit card info.
Wait, uh... what? I've got a local save file for Valhalla on my PS5?
EDIT: Yep, it's right there
The overwhelming consensus where? On ERA? Most of the people playing video games couldn't care less just like they couldn't care less they have to make accounts for TikTok or Amazon.
If that is not something you want no one is forcing you to buy these games. There is plenty of DRM free stuff on platforms like GoG.
If this were an issue for the overwhelming majority of players they would've disabled it within a day.
If you don't like it, don't support it by giving them money.
Didn't know this was that integrated as I've had a uplay/connect account since the 360 days and into auto logs you in.
Single player with watch dogs isn't offline though. There are elements of the game that need online to function. They had stuff like this with watch dogs 2. A ubi account should be optional though. Forcing you to sign up like Bethesda did with doom eternal sucks.
Single player with watch dogs isn't offline though. There are elements of the game that need online to function. They had stuff like this with watch dogs 2. A ubi account should be optional though. Forcing you to sign up like Bethesda did with doom eternal sucks.
Yes, Xbox has that, too. A generic placeholder with your name and profile connecting you with Ubisoft Connect.Wait, uh... what? I've got a local save file for Valhalla on my PS5?
EDIT: Yep, it's right there
But here's the thing: There is NO save there that you can access in that information.
You are literally at the mercy of Ubisoft Connect.
We've been talking about this for months. Here is a YouTube video from November when I first heard about this. (Not my video)
That's why I'm saying PlayStation users should absolutely take advantage of their PSN Cloud storage so they're not relying on Ubisoft. Just my 2-cents.
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Yup not going to support such underhanded tactics moving forward. I already paid for it so I will turn off my internet when I play it or using a throwaway account.
My younger siblings play the campaign for Watchdogs 2 back home in Africa but the internet isn't good or too expensive. I'm sure it's a hustle for them but I'll ask to see how they do it. But moving forward I'm not buying games that require this. Its a red flag, they could do worse with our information if they can resort to such underhanded tactics.
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I'm not about to say it isn't a nuisance dealing with all these additional launchers but ya'll should probably settle in cause they aren't going anywhere, and the online requirement will probably only get worse from here on out. At least with games you can integrate accounts between launchers like Steam and EGS to stuff like Ubisoft Connect and Rockstar Games Launcher, it's the fragmented nature of video streaming services that irks me. Dear lord there are too many of them, I miss the days when Netflix was doing deals with all the film and tv studios for licensing. The way all these additional "channels" have been integrated into stuff like Prime Video or Apple TV is obnoxious, I have to keep reminding myself to only select the "free to me" tab in Prime Video otherwise you're greeted with a crap ton of additional subscriptions you'll need to watch anything. /rant
I just checked this out, and... not sure if this was rectified with the latest patch, but the save file on my console is not a generic placeholder. My saves load and work even when I'm not connected to the internet. That said, I don't have access to the UbiConnect autosave, but all of my autosaves seem to be local.
Also MS has had their "prioritize cloud saves over local saves" policy in place since the ONE. This might just be a Series S/X thing (or a PS4 thing since the video's showing the PS4 saving/loading).
Nintendo, PlayStation, and Xbox platforms all have me log into an account. That is my account on their platform. I should not have to create any other account. I've been using these accounts since OG Xbox and PS3, and I've not created an EA account, an Ubisoft account, an Activision account, or any other account since, and I will continue to not do so, because they should just use my existing account, and if they don't, well then I'm not interested in whatever I'm missing out on.
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Amen!!
You bring up a very valid point. This could be an issue that gamers face as well moving forward. I don't want a subscription from every single thing, I just want to buy into a platform and play games.
So hey, if any UbiSoft astroturfer or executive is running this, here's an idea for you.
A launcher app for Xbox or PlayStation to launch your Ubisoft games. Also, force the downloads through there, not through the Xbox or PS system.
You're welcome.
(I'm just gonna bookmark this post and see if I was right in the upcoming years).
A launcher app for Xbox or PlayStation to launch your Ubisoft games. Also, force the downloads through there, not through the Xbox or PS system.
You're welcome.
(I'm just gonna bookmark this post and see if I was right in the upcoming years).
Ubisoft Connect on PC is so so so much worse. It crashes all the time on my rig, and if it crashes while you're playing something, you either get kicked from the game entirely (Division 2), your progress is not recorded until you completely reboot the game (Fenix).
They do do this, basically. My Ubisoft Connect account is linked to my PSN, XB and Steam IDs. If you want Sony or whoever to link your PSN account to Ubisofts service themself then I don't really know what to tell you.
It's not about linking your PSN account to Ubisoft's automatically, it's about not having to have an account in the first place. If you don't want live events and all of that stuff, or if you don't want whatever kind of stuff you'd get from an Activision account in Call of Duty beyond seeing your K:D ratio if you actually care about it, you should just be able to bypass that stuff and play the game.
It is seamless if you have an Ubisoft account already setup. For example, I didn't realize Fenyx had the requirement until my SO gave it a go, because I already had my login linked to my console account.
You likely synced your PSN and Ubi accounts sometime in the past, so it was already there.
This is why they're doing it. Most likely a PM thought "Everyone is going to love this feature! They can move across console and PC w/no friction!" PMs always thing everyone is going to love every feature. They never imagine someone NOT wanting something that is free.
In this case looks like it goes beyond more stat tracking. It would allow them to play the game without disconnecting the network. This kind of stuff is a non issue for me, but I am a prodominately PC gamer so I already have 100 account to play games. I never notice this stuff on my consoles because I linked it all to my gamertags etc. as soon as it became available. Here, they can either disconnect their system every time they want to play or bite the bullet and take 5 minutes to create a Ubisoft Connect account. They can spend 5 more to sync the account to their gamertag so they never have to worry about this happening in another Ubisoft game again.