Oh but you've seen Joker already? And he has a bone to pick with Chad and stacies?
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U.S. Military Issues Warning to Troops About Incel Violence at Joker Screenings (see staff post for discussion guidelines)
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I can make a movie dedicated to teaching people why persons with the username OtherWorldly deserve nothing but the worst, but I can also not do so.
American culture has reached it's zenith with this headline.
The good news is that the authorities are taking these deranged and disaffected people in that congregate in the dark corners of the Internet seriously
The good news is that the authorities are taking these deranged and disaffected people in that congregate in the dark corners of the Internet seriously
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Me saying they should be criticized is not the same as me saying they should be censored. This movie is inappropriate given the current climate of gun violence and mass shootings in america. So in my opinion it absolutely should be called out and criticized for that.
What the movie industry decides to do with that justified criticism is their own business. That's out of my hands.
Weirdly, this movie will be widely shown in other countries, but there isn't the same danger of violence.
Why is that?
Why is that?
You weren't around for the guy that assaulted and arguably attempted to kill Bret Hart?
Yeah. It's just such a lazy use of language when there are plenty of apposite ways to describe the perpetrators of right wing terrorism
No, but I doubt a piece of fiction has the power to provoque that kind of behaviour. Deranged people will do it anyways.
This particular piece of fiction features an Incel symbol.
You don't think a movie about say, Donald Trump being a hero by killing minorities could be dangerous seeing how he's a symbol for many crazies?
Absolutely not. People like that don't need "inspirations" they're just crazy.
How is a movie about Donald Trump killing minorities at all similar to Joker? Good god.
The incels make symbols out of a lot of content and joker has been established for decades as a terrorist villain.
This is extremely disingenuous. But given how you have consistently been defending this movie regardless of what anyone has to say that's not really surprising.
I don't think the movie is banned, is it? There are plenty of people who want to ban guns.
Some pyshcopath does a mass shooting at a cinema dressed up as a clown and Trump response will be lets blame the movie and not actual guns
However, with the left beginning to pick up the narrative that media can cause this kind of violence, it legitimizes the right's talking points. I believe that is a far more dangerous long-term issue than this film, because it will allow them to steer the conversation way from the root of the problem: guns.
And honestly, Congress would pass media restrictions when it comes to violence decades before they pass comprehensive gun legislation.
What is disingenuous about it?
Asking people to actually watch a film before making statements about it is being disengenous?
I mean yeah, people are blindly fear mongering and making Definitive proclamations about a film they havent even seen. It's a little....disengenous. but you're one of the people on a crusade against the film so this isnt surprising.
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It makes no sense whatsoever. Whoever's in charge of these decisions are most likely idiots
We just had a Reddit loser kill 50+ people in mosques over here in the safe and cosy country of New Zealand.
I want to see the movie and even though it's strangely couched in this pop culture wrapper, I think it's important that art explores the psyche of dangerous people in their own time and trusts that an audience can take the obviously right message away without it being spoon fed...
but the internet indoctrinating lonely, impressionsble people is a danger all over.
Check out this thread THAT YOU POSTED IN containing the attack on Bret Hart (who has severe medical issues, and even that fall could have killed him had he not been cushioned).
The person in question repeatedly referenced Batman and the Joker and in one of his pictures prior to the attack he mimicked the 'stomach sucked in' pose of Joker from the trailer
So to you i'd say to ask for sources first before snapping
No you asking specifically about chads and Stacy's is disingenuous because you know damn well that it's not about that, but you asked the question anyway knowing full well the answer.
That is the very definition of disingenuous. And it's not the first time I have seen you do that when it comes to defending this movie. It seems to be a running theme when it comes to your posts regarding the film.
Check out this thread THAT YOU POSTED IN containing the attack on Bret Hart (who has severe medical issues, and even that fall could have killed him had he not been cushioned).
The person in question repeatedly referenced Batman and the Joker and in one of his pictures prior to the attack he mimicked the 'stomach sucked in' pose of Joker from the trailer
So to you i'd say to ask for sources first and stop being a toxic person.
You said joker related killings this was not a killing. I mean if you're going to actually say stuff like that make sure you a slick back it up with stuff that happen.
I'll just get the BD Rom or stream it.
We already had one psychopath shoot up a theater at a different Joker movie years back.
I would take this seriously. Shame too, because it sounds like an amazing movie to see in a theater.
But there are too many fucked up people in the world and the USA arms them.
We already had one psychopath shoot up a theater at a different Joker movie years back.
I would take this seriously. Shame too, because it sounds like an amazing movie to see in a theater.
But there are too many fucked up people in the world and the USA arms them.
The joker's not in the dark Knight rises and The Man Who shot the movie theater didn't do it out because of joker anything. I feel that we have misconstrued at the Aurora tragedy to fit this argument.
You can believe what you want, but the article makes clear that this warning to the military isn't from them directly, it was the FBI that referred to the Military. In specific the FBI was monitoring a noticeable and direct uptick in statements of violence and intent from incels on the internet with the intention of commuting violence against the populace at said screenings to teach the normals a lesson etc.
Media does effect people, that's why propaganda is a thing and companies spend billions on research.
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It was reported as suchat the time. If you're going to accuse someone of making shit up, get your own facts straight because you're wrong on both counts. Clearly I made nothing up, and you forgot a clear example of Joker related violence with a direct reference to the upcoming film. As to how the Aurora shooting news changed that I was unaware? If that's the case then I was wrong, it does not however absolve you of your conduct nor selectively forgetting and now trying to sweep under the rug the 2nd example I cited that you said was something that never happened.
I'm going to leave it at that.
So asking rhetorical questions to people making obvious false statements is disengenous but the people making obvious false statements isnt. Got it Chief.
I'm still going regardless. It's ridiculous how a potentially phenomenal film will be impacted due to small-dick incels and their disgusting behavior.
If you choose to see it that way then that's on you i guess.
I mean dude you're the one who said people were killed because of joker. And then you tell me about Bret Hart who did wasn't killed and even then the violence against Bret Hart wasn't caused by joker it was caused by a crazy man that's crazy. so when you find someone dying because of a joker then you come get me all right I'll be the first person to tell you're right but until then sit down brother.
Ha, probably. And the irony of doing so would be funny if it weren't so sad. One of the greatest and misunderstood movies ever.
https://deadline.com/2019/09/joker-...on-warner-bros-to-back-gun-reform-1202743340/ Great decision to see from the theater. Admittedly should have been decided earlier than this week
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