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Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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From the people who thought Brexit was a good idea comes this bullshit.



"The British Tribe Next Door," which will see a British family spend four weeks with a remote tribe in Namibia.

The twist in this format is that, unlike most adventurers, the participants don't say goodbye to the comforts of their home — instead, they take them with them.

The family will have running water, electricity, and all their possessions around them, from hair-straighteners to frozen ready-made meals and a TV

... bruh.
 

I am a Bird

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Oct 31, 2017
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I want the first episode to be everyone else just kicks them out of their fancy house and they keep it for themselves.
 

donny2112

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's weird but I don't see how it's racist.
Seems elitest instead of racist. "Look at the modern comforts we have that you (presumably) don't."

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The four episodes will also explore the challenges to the Himba way of life, from the lure of nearby towns on their youths to the effects of global warming on their harvests.
So they're going to be making it even more tempting for the youth to abandon their families' traditional way of life in favor of the modern world. Seems similar to the Amish practice of letting their kids experience modern life before deciding whether to go back to the Amish way of life. Wonder if the tribe shares that sentimentality on the subject.
 
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Lowrys

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Oct 25, 2017
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How is this racist? Honest question, and I used to practice equality law.

Tone deaf, sure.
 
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Oct 31, 2017
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For those outside the UK, channel 4 is bizarre. On the one hand, it has what is easily the best news program on TV, and on the other it broadcasts absolute bottom scraping shit like this or the poverty porn series it had on recently.
 

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I don't see that it's racist, but fuck me its fucking awful.

They should've donated the money this cost to a water aid charity instead.
 

Masquerader

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Nov 4, 2017
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Pfft, it's not INTENTIONALLY racist, but it's still gonna be racist and there's no doubting that, guys. :p
 

Jebusman

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm pretty sure Channel 4 will produce/present literally any show that any writer pitches to them. Sex Box was a defining moment for that.
 

nekkid

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Oct 27, 2017
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Looks like the idea is to show a family of little Englanders the stark contrast between their lives and others with the hope of instilling compassion.
 

Stat

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Oct 25, 2017
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Im always curious how this gets greenlit. Like along the way, surely someone sees this as not a good idea
 

Torpedo Vegas

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Oct 27, 2017
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Parts Unknown.
The TV producers must be crazy!!
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Rover

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's weird but I don't see how it's racist.
Seems elitest instead of racist.
How is this racist? Honest question, and I used to practice equality law.

Tone deaf, sure.
I don't see that it's racist, but fuck me its fucking awful.

They should've donated the money this cost to a water aid charity instead.
Pfft, it's not INTENTIONALLY racist, but it's still gonna be racist and there's no doubting that, guys. :p

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How is this racist? Honest question, and I used to practice equality law.

Tone deaf, sure.
Really? I don't get how you can't see it, it's almost as if you're joking. This is such an obvious reinforcement of the old school "african" stereotype, especially the "savages" into contrast with the "advanced" brits. Why do you think they selected a nomadic tribe that looks the closest to the racist sterotypes they have as possible? Perhaps you think they'll try to educate and debunk stereotypes about africa and africans, but c'mon, it's going to be the opposite.
 

Lowrys

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Oct 25, 2017
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Really? I don't get how you can't see it, it's almost as if you're joking. This is such an obvious reinforcement of the old school "african" stereotype, especially the "savages" into contrast with the "advanced" brits. Why do you think they selected a nomadic tribe that looks the closest to the racist sterotypes they have as possible? Perhaps you think they'll try to educate and debunk stereotypes about africa and africans, but c'mon, it's going to be the opposite.
Thanks for explaining. I didn't think of the stereotypes angle. I see what you mean.
 

donny2112

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Oct 27, 2017
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Elitism is racism when it's directed against another race.

Addressing this part, no, elitism is not inherently racism if the elitism happens to be toward people who happen to have a different skin color. One does not automatically imply the other. The show's in bad taste, regardless, as it seems to be trying to show off presumed advantages that the British family has over the tribes people. It's doubly in bad taste as the tribes people seem to already have an issue with their young leaving the tribe to go after modern life amenities. I just don't think it's automatically also racist because the two groups have different skin colors. It'd be just as in bad taste if the British family involved was dark-skinned.
 
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L Thammy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Addressing this part, no, elitism is not inherently racism if the elitism happens to be toward people who happen to have a different skin color. One does not automatically imply the other. The show's in bad taste, regardless, as it seems to be trying to show off presumed advantages that the British family has over the tribes people. It's doubly in bad taste as the tribes people seem to already have an issue with their young leaving the tribe to go after modern life amenities. I just don't think it's automatically also racist because the two groups have different skin colors. It'd be just as in bad taste if the British family involved was dark-skinned.
Just for context, part of the justification given for British colonialism was claiming that they, the whites, were civilized and were heroically granting other people the gift of culture via their colonial interests. Compare this poem from Rudyard Kipling. a pro-imperial British man born in India:

Take up the White Man's burden —
Send forth the best ye breed —
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild —
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden —
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden —
The savage wars of peace —
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden —
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper —
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go make them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden —
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard —
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light: —
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden —
Ye dare not stoop to less —
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloak your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden —
Have done with childish days —
The lightly profferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.

Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!

to this letter from Robert E. Lee, the American who led the fight to keep Africans and their descendants enslaved:

In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country. It is useless to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it however a greater evil to the white man than to the black race, & while my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more strong for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, socially & physically. The painful discipline they are undergoing, is necessary for their instruction as a race, & I hope will prepare & lead them to better things. How long their subjugation may be necessary is known & ordered by a wise Merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild & melting influence of Christianity, than the storms & tempests of fiery Controversy. This influence though slow, is sure. The doctrines & miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years, to Convert but a small part of the human race, & even among Christian nations, what gross errors still exist! While we see the Course of the final abolition of human Slavery is onward, & we give it the aid of our prayers & all justifiable means in our power, we must leave the progress as well as the result in his hands who sees the end; who Chooses to work by slow influences; & with whom two thousand years are but as a Single day. Although the Abolitionist must know this, & must See that he has neither the right or power of operating except by moral means & suasion, & if he means well to the slave, he must not Create angry feelings in the Master; that although he may not approve the mode which it pleases Providence to accomplish its purposes, the result will nevertheless be the same; that the reasons he gives for interference in what he has no Concern, holds good for every kind of interference with our neighbors when we disapprove their Conduct; Still I fear he will persevere in his evil Course. Is it not strange that the descendants of those pilgrim fathers who Crossed the Atlantic to preserve their own freedom of opinion, have always proved themselves intolerant of the Spiritual liberty of others?

Also seen in the modern era when Bill Maher tells you that he's fighting racism so he's allowed to say the N-word.