Two-thirds of the world’s wildlife has been lost since 1970
WWF has proposed a plan to ‘fundamentally change the way that we deal with the loss of nature’
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Two-thirds of the world’s wildlife has been lost since 1970
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I'm starting to feel like there's not much we can do, except helplessly watch.
Stop eating meat is a good start. Use as less plastics as you can.
Also eat seasonally.
considering much of the world is still developing, basically there is nothing we can do but accept the doom that is our species
Damn, so logically... Will we effectively see the extinction of almost all species not directly beneficial to us in the next 50? (Or sooner)
The earth is going to look a lot different very soon
The earth is going to look a lot different very soon
At this point Im not sure we can do much at all. Climate change is progressing at a very rapid rate. We would need extremely severe action taken immediately to have any chance of curbing the effects. Like in the next 5 years soon. And I don't see that happening myself.
The developing countries don't do as much damage to the climate as the developed ones though.
We have to build a sustainable society, which is impossible under capitalism where the goal is to expand infinitely.
The biggest part of the problem is habitat destruction -- which raising meat is admittedly a major part of.
Does this article mean 2/3's of species have been knocked out or that we literally thinned the number of animals on Earth by 2/3?
Cuz that seems pretty drastic and like something we would have noticed in just our daily lives by now.
Cuz that seems pretty drastic and like something we would have noticed in just our daily lives by now.
No doubt in my mind.
I clearly remember when we went on road-trips back when I was younger the front of that car was always filled with splatted insects... Hasn't been the case for many years now... If we want to look we would see the effects in our daily lives too.
Yep, I went on a roadtrip earlier this year (before covid) up the entire west coast. We could count the number of bugs squashed on our windshield on two hands. Its disconcerting
yeah totally, they will develop into more all consuming capitalist superpowers
basically to turn around now and stomp on progress towards that selfsame goal will just be big hypocrisy that no one would accept
It's already noticeable in daily lives. Bugs are less numerous, as are birds.
Yeah I guess, I just never hear any hunters or fishers complaining that there are 1/3 the number of animals out there. And I don't feel like I see less squirrels and mice and that sort of thing.
I live in Colorado and go hiking occasionally and it seems like I see just as many animals as ever.
I'm not saying these scientists are lying or anything it just seems like with a drop of that magnitude we would see more evidence of it. 2/3 is a big fucking number.
The scary part is, this is just looking at vertebrates.
Now consider how many invertebrates are dying off. Especially insects.
Now consider how many invertebrates are dying off. Especially insects.
Number of animals. 2/3rds of vertebrate species would be catastrophic. That's a mass extinction event.
2020: "Two thirds of the wildlife has been lost"
2021: "Trump swears in for second term"
2022: "The ice caps are melting."
2023: "Super-Cancer has become airborne and contagious"
2024: "Where has all the water gone? It was here yesterday. Loads of the stuff."
2025: "Is it just me or is the Sun getting bigger?"
2021: "Trump swears in for second term"
2022: "The ice caps are melting."
2023: "Super-Cancer has become airborne and contagious"
2024: "Where has all the water gone? It was here yesterday. Loads of the stuff."
2025: "Is it just me or is the Sun getting bigger?"
Deforestation and overfishing mostly happen in developing regions. I mean from the report South America is the region that has seen the biggest fall in wildlife since 1970s (94%)
Yeah the significantly lower number of insects is so noticeable.
I understand that. I was using that poster's post to springboard into something else, the discussion of whether or not we are doomed.
Yeah I finished the article and it's hard to believe shit has fallen that much. I guess it's hard to see in our daily lives when you factor in things like ocean fishing and all that. I guess I just never noticed there were so fewer birds these days.
Nah, my point is that a lot of the issues of habitat loss are being driven by developing countries (mostly because developed nations have already kind of done the damage in that regard a long time ago)
Climate change. Pollution. Habitat destroyed.
Meat eaters are part of the problem but at least there is some attempt to raise and produce meat. It's the people who hunt or fish a species to the point of extinction that bothers me. If all they are doing is taking from nature, they're not helping.
Meat eaters are part of the problem but at least there is some attempt to raise and produce meat. It's the people who hunt or fish a species to the point of extinction that bothers me. If all they are doing is taking from nature, they're not helping.
since 1970 though. Young people likely wouldn't notice as much as very old people.
This is the sort of thing that I'm talking about when I say we can't sustainably increase the world human population infinitely by just switching to solar panels and increasing marginal tax rates.
also: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ng-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature
also: https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ng-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature
Can't personally verify the number cause can't read it atm, but a lot of loss wouldn't necessarily take place near/in places that have already been urbanized. Think about things like rainforest destruction (home to many, many, many undocumented species), coral reef loss, permafrost melting, and other habitat loss. Even former open fields and woodlands/grasslands that might not have been preserved or turned into a nature reserve or park. Eg when I was in Indiana a ton of wetlands have been paved over in the 20+ years I was there, and they haven't been replaced by anything but urban blight
A part of... but not the only reason. There are A LOT more variables: dams also have destroyed environments downstream, palm oils also destroy entire jungles to plant the trees.... just to name a couple.
It's kind of hard when you say, aren't living in Brasil and don't have a say at what happens with the Amazon :/
I've been talking about it recently, but I recommend watching Our Planet on Netflix. Beautiful BBC-quality footage, but also shows just HOW connected these environments are with the planet, and how things like over fishing can even lead to changes in weather around the world.
The most obvious example for me is fireflies. A couple decades ago, I would see hundreds of lights flitting about every summer night. Now? Lucky to see even one.
Wildlife around the Chernobyl power plant thrived after the disaster since nobody lives there anymore. Which means human interference is literally worse to the planet than a fucking nuclear meltdown thats not gonna be reversed for thousands of years.
Think about that.
Think about that.
To be fair in some issues we have managed to turn the tide. For example in EU the total forest area has been growing for several decades already. Also local fish populations are more healthy than during the worst times.
Bees, butterflies, and even some fish getting smaller (probably all get caught as they were ready to breed) from what I noticed since I was a kid.
It's kind of mind-boggling to think about the fact we're living through a mass extinction that's on course to beat out the one that killed the dinosaurs.
This is because the EU (and US, other developed countries) have just outsourced the most ecologically damaging industries to developing nations and import the goods.
Advancements in pesticides will be looked back upon as huge mistakes. If anyone's around, that is.
