You're asking too much. We're lucky when people read the whole title of a thread.
If you actually read the article you'd see at the point Ludwig broke this down he would only be making 3k, perhaps 10-15k at most when factoring in tax write-offsI don't see the problem. It's a contact and yes, pay your fucking taxes. Am I supposed to feel sorry about you paying taxes? Poor guy "only" making $150k in 10 days.
So this guy is stupid for doing what exactly?
I still don't get donating to streamers at all personally. I do watch Twitch, and have no problems with subs (I just use my Prime sub), but donations just seem weird to me.
Yeah, paying taxes isn't a "small fraction" and neither is Twitch's 35% cut. I was expecting sometime less than 10% but I guess I shouldn't be surprised by sensationalist headlines.A third isn't exactly a "small fraction" and $150k for being in front of a camera for a week and a half still seems pretty good to me. That's more than like 95% of the population earn in a year doing far more difficult work.
Yeah, mentioning taxes is kinda weird. I know a guy who makes about 100k€ a year, it's like half that after taxes. He doesn't even mention the income before taxes usually, because why talk about money you don't actually have available?
I think it's something people often do when they get an amount of money for the first time from a job, and/or when they get a significant amount of money for the first time from another job, a raise, a contest, a bonus, etc... I feel like it's pretty common for people to talk about the surprise of taxes, until they get used to it.
Who said that ? Have you even clicked the link ?Am I supposed to feel bad for somebody making $150k in a week which is more than most people make in a year?
Yeah, the guy doesn't seem like he's complaining. Just explaining the process / financial breakdown to his audience. Nothing wrong with that. Also, this part is missed out in the OP:
So he'll be getting much less than what is stated above (at the time the article was written, of course).
There's an odd dynamic involved with donations. Some streamers are showered with money, in most cases, by people with much less. Kotaku also covered this here: https://kotaku.com/why-twitch-fans-donate-money-to-already-wealthy-streame-1841456196
I thought it was an interesting read.
Because the OP didn't quote that part in the original post. People did not read the article, and it makes me think the OP might not have read the full thing either because after paying his mods and donating the charity, the amount he's left with is $3,000, and then between $10,000 and $15,000 after tax write-offs. To only quote the part of the article that makes it seem like he's making $150,000 was foolish and a mod needs to close this topic because even an edit isn't going to save it at this point.He pays his mods, taxes and donates most of it to charity.
Era: BOO FUCKING HOO WHAT A COMPLAINER!
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no, but you should be sorry for not reading the article or even the OP of the thread you are replying to.Am I supposed to feel bad for somebody making $150k in a week which is more than most people make in a year?
I don't personally see what's weird. Subbing to a channel is done to support a streamer. However, the vast majority only make half (or less) of the sub price. Donating to them supports them and goes directly to their pocket. While you dont get a little emoji next to your name, a good streamer will value you just as much (or more) and have trackers/notifications to alert in appropriate ways.
If the weirdness is giving them money in general, financially support the entertainment you consume. Same as any form of entertainment.
Too many people not taking the time to read the rest of the article and see Ludwig is not making 150kNext, Ahgren moved on to payments he intends to issue, starting with his moderation team. Many streamers do not pay their mods—which is not a great system because what moderators do is work, and they deserve to be paid by streamers who have the means to do so. Ahgren's subathon would literally not be possible without his moderation team. Not only have they ensured that his chat remains relatively sane, but a rotating group of 15 moderators has run the stream at night while Ahgren's been asleep as well. As a result, he pays the team a total of $5,000 per day (plus a base rate) as the team participates in this grueling stunt. As of yesterday, all of that left Ahgren with $83,000—which, as he pointed out, is "still a lot of goddamn money."
That brought him to the charity aspect of his subathon. For each subscriber he has at the end of it all, he intends to donate $1 to a charity of his choosing, which he has yet to name. Yesterday, he had somewhere in the ballpark of 80,000 subscribers, dwindling his total take down to just $3,000. He went on to clarify, however, that tax write-offs should bring him up to somewhere in the neighborhood of $10,000 or $15,000, but he doesn't know the exact number.
sigh... see above.Am I supposed to feel bad for somebody making $150k in a week which is more than most people make in a year?
Why can't people read the article, though?OP you need to update your post with:
Too many people not taking the time to read the rest of the article and see Ludwig is not making 150k
sigh... see above.
To be fair it's not up to OP to baby people who should know to read the article in the first place. People are dumb.OP you need to update your post with:
Too many people not taking the time to read the rest of the article and see Ludwig is not making 150k
sigh... see above.
You've been around long enough to know they're never going to read the article
Not to be a pain but if he's donating $80k to charity and is taxed at a 50% rate like he claims, then he is taking home $40k at least from this. A write-off means you don't pay taxes on that income. The reality is he's making probably at least $50k even w/ the donation + gaining 80k subs w/ will add income over time.Nobody's reading the article.
He's paying his mods and donating heavily to charity for this stream, and coming away with like 10 grand for 10 days of 24/7 streaming time. And also not complaining at all.
Nobody's reading the article.
He's paying his mods and donating heavily to charity for this stream, and coming away with like 10 grand for 10 days of 24/7 streaming time. And also not complaining at all.
shouldn't he?
Kotaku back at it again with a dogshit article title, and Era back at it again with a severe lack of reading skills. Typical.
If you actually read the article you'd see at the point Ludwig broke this down he would only be making 3k, perhaps 10-15k at most when factoring in tax write-offs
So this guy is stupid for doing what exactly?
Thats the question. Are the people paying him to watch him sleep stupid or is it him for providing such low quality content.
It's a pretty detailed article though. It's important to read the whole the thing.You've been around long enough to know they're never going to read the article
A viewer then asked him why he doesn't just move in order to pay less.
"Why not move?" he replied. "I don't really care. I make enough money. I don't feel like I need more money. I'm happy to pay my taxes. If they want taxes to do things, I could be [like] Jeff Bezos at Amazon and get up in trying to pay as little taxes as possible to make as much money as possible, but that's not really my M.O...I'm down to pay my share. That's the whole point of taxes."
Why are people acting like he was complaining and going woe is me lol it seemed more like he was just answering questions from chat and explaining
Because he is providing a service that people enjoy and people get paid for that. Don't work for free.
Thats the question. Are the people paying him to watch him sleep stupid or is it him for providing such low quality content.
You provided no indication that there was a different and much smaller number in the article. In people's minds you had put yourself out there as an authority on what was most important in the article when you quoted such a large part of it. It's silly, but you should not expect people to read the article.It's a pretty detailed article though. It's important to read the whole the thing.
I mean, this is basic literacy, though. We're in a text based medium. That's why links are provided.You provided no indication that there was a different and much smaller number in the article. In people's minds you had put yourself out there as an authority on what was most important in the article when you quoted such a large part of it. It's silly, but you should not expect people to read the article.
Thanks for sharing the full quote there.Implying people here reads the articles lol. Ludwig wasn't even complaining, he just detailed how much money he got.
His math is also wrong, as he is calculating deductions and taxes incorrectly.Nobody's reading the article.
He's paying his mods and donating heavily to charity for this stream, and coming away with like 10 grand for 10 days of 24/7 streaming time. And also not complaining at all.
You provided no indication that there was a different and much smaller number in the article. In people's minds you had put yourself out there as an authority on what was most important in the article when you quoted such a large part of it. It's silly, but you should not expect people to read the article.
C'mon a mod got caught out not reading the articleI mean, this is basic literacy, though. We're in a text based medium. That's why links are provided.
Like this post does a pretty good job summarizing and dispelling reactionary takesNobody's reading the article.
He's paying his mods and donating heavily to charity for this stream, and coming away with like 10 grand for 10 days of 24/7 streaming time. And also not complaining at all.