If she has something like TTS enabled, trolls will gladly pay the $2 minimum to say some stupid shit.
Yeah, I've heard she's banning for lots of things. She is creating her own echo chamber I guess. Whole situation is messy.
I think Twitch is putting pressure on partners to clean up their act, albeit haphazardly. The ongoing crusade by Train against people 'misusing' (lol) squadW means he must be getting pressure from somewhere to clean up his act.
She is likely receiving some pretty brutal abuse (I can only imagine). That is one part I can sympathize with. Yes she had no business ever being on the council and fucked up bad, but no one deserves to be ruthlessly harassed by thousands of people.
SonicFox was the first person I thought of. An actual beacon of equality and self love.
I... don't know what's going on here.
They've allowed extremely toxic behavior to be normalized across their entire platform. So yeah, their moderation is lacking to say the least.
Thats nice of you to say that. But...yeah.
Im pretty sure the main clips that got her the most flak initially were the "people disagreeing with me are white cis males" and the "a lot of you are white supremacists" ones.
Ugh. For sure. Cohh seems like such a solid dude that always tries to stay above twitch bullshit. I hope he can help, but when most of the top streamers are shit heads, there is no way they are going to cut them out of the platform since that is huge $ lost.
Ohhh. Well that's my bad. Maybe Twitch made a good choice then with who they did actually pick for the council...
Oh, nevermind.There are more and more clips popping up of FS in regards to this and she seems unhinged about it all. Like did they vet this her at all?
Power tripping:
Retraction:
Get her out I'm sure there are more choices that are better than her. I feel sorry for Cohh he seems like he genuinely wants it to work but all the negativity coming out of it is because of one bad choice.
Her point of people getting harassed online is valid, especially for women, because their gender can be tracked to their voice pretty easily and it leads to a lot of harassment in online games.
This comment is perfect
Considering how normalized toxicity, racism, and misogyny is in twitch chat and how much crossover there is with 4chan and such. Twitch has absolutely fostered a haven for open racism. In huge streams you can't even see a black character appear without a crowd of idiots spamming racist shit. So while, they may not be outright white supremacists, a more than negligible chunk of the twitch audience is racist and misogynistic.
The second this got announced she got flooded with harassment. And yes, much more of it was harassment instead of "you have some good points BUT"
When you adress a community full of gamers and then say " 'a lot' of you gamers are white supremacists", that's antagonizing 'a lot' of people who arent white supremacists. This isn't some Era poster who can just go "well if you arent one, don't feel adressed". She's a representative of the enrtirety of the twitch community.
First of all please don't just selectively quote like this. I've been trhough this song and dance too often to not know where this is leading.
Yeah, and then when she started to make stupid statements, she lumped together people who disagree with her with the people harassing her. To her, everone saying BUT is "a white cis male with white cis male sounding voices and she heard those arguments way too often". She's not fit for the position on this counsil, that's really all there is to it. The longer this goes on, the longer she will be harassed, so I hope they find a solution soon.
So first you say "she didn't say all" and now its a fact? ok. When you're supposed to be the representative of a group you don't go to that group and say "a lot of you are reprehensible assholes". That's not how any of this works.
That dude literally went in his chat and called people "autistic fucks" recently (like a week ago), Twitch won't ban even the lowest viewed Partners as long as they bring in an outsized amount of cash.
Like, I just love the implication that twitch chat isn't full of blatant racism and sexism that goes completely unmoderated. Like, that's literally a huge part of twitch and gamer culture.
Even if she represents twitch's community that aspect of twitch's community deserves to be called out.
From the perspective of a person who the LSF subreddit borderline dedicated themselves to, as they would ANY person who is trans, PoC, or a woman. It makes sense to me to not attempt to wade through a pile of shit for the few people saying "you have good points BUT" and yes assuming that everyone in twitch chat is a white cis male is an overgeneralization BUT she's not wrong about calling a good chunk of them assholes. Because there are. And let's be honest, the majority of people who head to her chat atm most likely aren't there for an "honest debate"
I can understand hers and anybody's frustrations with voice chat 100% But obviously the solution isn't to remove voice chat (though I don't think she's really lobbying for that either, even if she did it has 0% chance of happening). We don't remove stairs just because everyone can't take advantage of them, we offer alternatives. Voice commands, pings etc. aren't of course as good but often still useful. That's how I communicate with randoms (and some text) even as a cis white male.
Again, as a representative of a community you don't antagonize 'a lot' of said community. That's not how being a representative of a community works.
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Maybe we should point our attention to the "a lot of members of the community are racist and sexist" problem instead of tone policing the people who call it out mid harassment campaign.
