I know, but I thought modern displays had done away 50Hz as a standard other than the odd 50Hz modes for legacy content.
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Yeah, I was looking at the specs on the manufacturer website, it listed it as a 50Hz panel.
I just hope LG C10 48" will be better than C9 without any less feature other than being smaller.
Yeah, you can read that on many manufacture websites from europe. But they are all false, or rather they are still just reffering to the Television signal.
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Not sure we will see 48" Oled from Lg before end of 2020 or early 2021. I saw somewhere they have issue with the manufacturing on China and yields
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I believe it's already been confirmed that either the B or C line (or both) will have 48" OLEDs this year via leaked CES documents
I hope you right we will see at CES. But this year doesn't mean necessarily Q1/Q2 2020 but can be Q4...
And not sure how can we expect the price of 48"? 100/200$ cheaper than 55"?
I hope they will all support HDMI 2.1 and 4K 40-120 VRR.
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Pricing is definitely the big question, but I would expect it to release in Q2 like they do each year
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Damn, that's sad, i was hoping for earlier than that. Well waits continue than.
not a problem —
a) consoles aren't supposed to be out until the end of the year anyways.
b) just means more time to save up some cash.
The sooner they released them. The sooner the price will drop. I mean Q2 would be perfect for a Black Friday discount. But if they released them at the end of the year... see you next time :D
Q2 could still happen though — This year we've got Euro 2020 & The Olympics. TV manufacturers often align their launches to have products ready to go for major sporting events. Either way there is an upside imo.
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Very good point. Next gen console launches + 2 major sporting events should equal a big increase in sales which should reduce prices going forward.
Vizio 2020 TVs will have support HDMI 2.1. Their VRR will start at 48fps.
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They will also offer an OLED TV [LG panel].
Anything less than HDMI 2.1 for 2020 sets would be a disappointment for any of the major brands' flagship sets.
The four biggest CES news items for Vizio seem to be:
- They are going to have some OLED sets this year finally. Who the hell knows what the value and quality and peak brightness will be, but competition is competition.
- Vizio top-end soundbars are getting overhauled with left and right speakers that mechanically move to point upward for Dolby Atmos content. Maybe this is just a silly gimmick or maybe it'll mean some great sound (relatively speaking when it comes to soundbars). Who knows. I'll wait for reviews to see if these are any good.
- HDR10+ support coming to sets on top of Dolby Vision. A lot of sets you get one or the other, so it'll be nice to have both.
- The biggest Vizio news of all: 3000 nits peak brightness on the Quantum X sets. 3000 fucking nits on consumer sets! Vizio has been Lord of the Nits since 2018 sitting at about 2000 peak nits for their Quantum 2018 / Quantum X 2019, and this is basically a 50% leap from that.
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I can't even tolerate 600 nits. How the fuck can people watch 3000 nits. Chasing even higher brightness is almost a gimmick, in my opinion. Improved contrast/black levels is the key.
Give me my sunglasses and tanning lotion, I'm about to play Assassins Creed Odyssey and come out of a cave to look up at the sun on a 2020 PQX.
I don't know. Maybe my brain has a problem with light output? All I can say is, I have a Sony A8F which is like less than 700 nits and I gamed on it the other day for like an hour in HDR and I ended up getting a splitting headache. It's definitely light related because when I game in SDR at lower brightness I don't have the same problem. This was in a light filled room, too.
I genuinely envy you guys who don't have a problem.
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awesome...I cannot wait for his videos. His CES content is always top notch.
Compared to OLED, they will only do better in burn-in. So far it looks like they can't reach the brightness levels of regular LCDs and in terms of response time won't be better than typical LCD panels. They seem like an in-between tech before Micro-LED that handles HDR local dimming better than FALD arrays.
Speaking of OLED, if LG decided to make their 48" model curved (which they are capable of doing already!) it would make one awesome desktop screen. As a flat display it will just be slightly less of a problem than the current 55" model for desktop use.
Gonna ask a question that might seem weird but: is it me or are IPS displays clearer than VA? I mean, even in the TV space. I was watching a game demo on an LG the the other day that was IPS and it just seemed, i don't know, "clearer" than the other LCDs I've seen. Like, even standing really close to it the pixels seemed so close or something.
After the bombshell about now MicroLED sets are produced, there is not a change in hell those are going to make it to consumers in useful TV sizes in the next decade.
It's just a distraction until QD-OLED is good to go, which is the realistic next technology change.
It's just a distraction until QD-OLED is good to go, which is the realistic next technology change.
I had the exact same thing with my old Kuro, even though that looked great, LCD was very noticeable crisper for PC and gaming.
I suppose that the oleds themselves will be able to run slightly cooler as they will produce more light to start with, but whether they don't stress the sets as much or whether they choose to improve the image quality is another thing.
The other part of the equation is how they are manufactured.
I don't know what performance limits are placed upon the displays that are made with manufacturing techniques designed to reduced cost.
It might be that inkjet based manufacturing (which is what Samsung are going to use for QD) have other thresholds for heat which they will try to avoid.
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So nothing in the tech means QDOLED will stop BI, but it might be better?
It'll come down to pricing for me. The PQ is good enough for me (1K+ peak/600 fullscreen nits is still great, and 200+ dimming zones on a 65" 4K TV is solid), but if the premium to move up to the PQX is small, I'll pay it.
No one else is going to offer Quantum Dot displays with these features and pricing this year, right?
As I said, they don't need to drive the OLEDs so hard to achieve the same thing, which would result in longer lifespan, but at the same time you've got content that is going to be brighter and more demanding.
I guess time will tell, we are few years off us normals getting one anyway, maybe an 8K variant to go with our mid gen refreshed consoles in a few years time.
No. I have a 27" 8-bit TN 1440p gaming monitor, a 27" 1440p IPS monitor and a 49" 5120x1440 VA monitor. These are all the same pixels per inch. There is zero difference in image clarity between them. The VA has better contrast though.
TVs generally do more processing so you may see differences there but it has nothing to do with the panel tech itself.
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