I know, but I thought modern displays had done away 50Hz as a standard other than the odd 50Hz modes for legacy content.
I know, but I thought modern displays had done away 50Hz as a standard other than the odd 50Hz modes for legacy content.
Yeah, I was looking at the specs on the manufacturer website, it listed it as a 50Hz panel.50hz/100hz TVs do not exist. They all have a 60hz or 120hz panel.
Yeah, I was looking at the specs on the manufacturer website, it listed it as a 50Hz panel.
I just hope LG C10 48" will be better than C9 without any less feature other than being smaller.
Not sure we will see 48" Oled from Lg before end of 2020 or early 2021. I saw somewhere they have issue with the manufacturing on China and yields
I hope you right we will see at CES. But this year doesn't mean necessarily Q1/Q2 2020 but can be Q4...I believe it's already been confirmed that either the B or C line (or both) will have 48" OLEDs this year via leaked CES documents
From the next gen thread: the new Sony models seem to have leaked, but no surprises. Nothing about specifications though.
I hope you right we will see at CES. But this year doesn't mean necessarily Q1/Q2 2020 but can be Q4...
And not sure how can we expect the price of 48"? 100/200$ cheaper than 55"?
I hope you right we will see at CES. But this year doesn't mean necessarily Q1/Q2 2020 but can be Q4...
And not sure how can we expect the price of 48"? 100/200$ cheaper than 55"?
not a problem —I hope you right we will see at CES. But this year doesn't mean necessarily Q1/Q2 2020 but can be Q4...
Pricing is definitely the big question, but I would expect it to release in Q2 like they do each year
not a problem —
a) consoles aren't supposed to be out until the end of the year anyways.
b) just means more time to save up some cash.
Q2 could still happen though — This year we've got Euro 2020 & The Olympics. TV manufacturers often align their launches to have products ready to go for major sporting events. Either way there is an upside imo.The sooner they released them. The sooner the price will drop. I mean Q2 would be perfect for a Black Friday discount. But if they released them at the end of the year... see you next time :D
They usually release around April for the 55/65.
Yup, that's why I was questioning which models
Very good point. Next gen console launches + 2 major sporting events should equal a big increase in sales which should reduce prices going forward.Q2 could still happen though — This year we've got Euro 2020 & The Olympics. TV manufacturers often align their launches to have products ready to go for major sporting events. Either way there is an upside imo.
Vizio 2020 TVs will have support HDMI 2.1. Their VRR will start at 48fps.
They will also offer an OLED TV [LG panel].
I can't even tolerate 600 nits. How the fuck can people watch 3000 nits. Chasing even higher brightness is almost a gimmick, in my opinion. Improved contrast/black levels is the key.
I can't even tolerate 600 nits. How the fuck can people watch 3000 nits. Chasing even higher brightness is almost a gimmick, in my opinion. Improved contrast/black levels is the key.
I don't know. Maybe my brain has a problem with light output? All I can say is, I have a Sony A8F which is like less than 700 nits and I gamed on it the other day for like an hour in HDR and I ended up getting a splitting headache. It's definitely light related because when I game in SDR at lower brightness I don't have the same problem. This was in a light filled room, too.
What do you think about dual LCD TV ? Only Hisense and Panasonic are manufacturing these TV.
You think it will be worth it ?
I can't even tolerate 600 nits. How the fuck can people watch 3000 nits. Chasing even higher brightness is almost a gimmick, in my opinion. Improved contrast/black levels is the key.
Gonna ask a question that might seem weird but: is it me or are IPS displays clearer than VA? I mean, even in the TV space. I was watching a game demo on an LG the the other day that was IPS and it just seemed, i don't know, "clearer" than the other LCDs I've seen. Like, even standing really close to it the pixels seemed so close or something.
EvilBoris is there anything inherent in QD-OLED that would reduce or eliminate BI? I know that's a benefit of Micro but completely understand it's not coming soon.
I suppose that the oleds themselves will be able to run slightly cooler as they will produce more light to start with, but whether they don't stress the sets as much or whether they choose to improve the image quality is another thing.
The other part of the equation is how they are manufactured.
I don't know what performance limits are placed upon the displays that are made with manufacturing techniques designed to reduced cost.
It might be that inkjet based manufacturing (which is what Samsung are going to use for QD) have other thresholds for heat which they will try to avoid.
Anything less than HDMI 2.1 for 2020 sets would be a disappointment for any of the major brands' flagship sets.
The four biggest CES news items for Vizio seem to be:
The gap between the PQ and PQX is widening even more for 2020, to such an extent that consumers are going to have to be careful - non-X 2020 PQs are not the same bang for the buck as PQs from 2018. PQX is going to be what people want. The difference in number of dimming zones and the difference in peak brightness will be so big that they're not really in the same ballpark at all this year (though they both do get VRR up to 120hz at least).
- They are going to have some OLED sets this year finally. Who the hell knows what the value and quality and peak brightness will be, but competition is competition.
- Vizio top-end soundbars are getting overhauled with left and right speakers that mechanically move to point upward for Dolby Atmos content. Maybe this is just a silly gimmick or maybe it'll mean some great sound (relatively speaking when it comes to soundbars). Who knows. I'll wait for reviews to see if these are any good.
- HDR10+ support coming to sets on top of Dolby Vision. A lot of sets you get one or the other, so it'll be nice to have both.
- The biggest Vizio news of all: 3000 nits peak brightness on the Quantum X sets. 3000 fucking nits on consumer sets! Vizio has been Lord of the Nits since 2018 sitting at about 2000 peak nits for their Quantum 2018 / Quantum X 2019, and this is basically a 50% leap from that.
So nothing in the tech means QDOLED will stop BI, but it might be better?
Gonna ask a question that might seem weird but: is it me or are IPS displays clearer than VA? I mean, even in the TV space. I was watching a game demo on an LG the the other day that was IPS and it just seemed, i don't know, "clearer" than the other LCDs I've seen. Like, even standing really close to it the pixels seemed so close or something.
As I said, they don't need to drive the OLEDs so hard to achieve the same thing, which would result in longer lifespan, but at the same time you've got content that is going to be brighter and more demanding.
I guess time will tell, we are few years off us normals getting one anyway, maybe an 8K variant to go with our mid gen refreshed consoles in a few years time.