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Man, I thought Sony rescinded the whole "No Platinums" for games thing.
One of the weirdest policies they have still.
One of the weirdest policies they have still.
They did but yeah this sucks. I hate when devs skimp on the trophy list, especially for re-releases
Its even worse in stuff like the Mega Man, Castelvania, and Contra collections where there's like 12-16 trophies and no platinum... with like 5-6 games in each collection! Like come on
years later after the xbox port, what took this so long?
The no plat thing isnt weird, it has that many achievements on xbox as well.
The no plat thing isnt weird, it has that many achievements on xbox as well.
I played through the Turok remaster on the Switch some months ago, and it was my first time playing the game in any capacity. I had a blast with it, it definitely holds up as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully any PS4 (and presumably PS5?) owners interested will give it a chance.
What they told me was they diddnt have enough people to port it on time, my initial speculation was that they had one ps4 dev kit and it was stuck with system shock remake coming out first
I thought it's currently pretty much up to the discretion of the developer. I know someone 'verified' over here commented on it, but can't remember who it was (m0dus maybe?)
The difference is that regardless of how many achievements, you still get 1000G on Xbox.
With PS4, when there's no platinum you're getting less due to how the point values are per trophy
The first Turok is good, but the second one is where the gold is at. I replayed it recently and its quality is overhwelming. A top tier FPS without a doubt.
Honestly, so? You want a gold trophy for every single event you complete? These things have never, ever been consistent. The only thing that did become consistent this gen on ps4 is every other game having a plat when on ps3 it did not get a plat. Code veronica x for example has 2 lists, no plat on ps3 and a plat on ps4. Steamworld dig 1 has no plat, 2 has a plat. I'm a trophy whore and I'm a higher level than my friend who has nearly 30 more plats than me because of all my years playing PSN games with smaller lists. I'm really not sure why this matters, I'm just happy this is coming to PS4 finally 2 years after xbox, though seeds of evil is still missing when that dropped same day as 1 on the xbox.
It kind of both is and isn't. Each trophy type has an assigned point value, and there's two point pools you need to fit in either of. The less trophies you have, the smaller your overall point pool can be. Only the larger point pool can have a platinum, so with smaller games no platinum trophy can be allocated because of the math.
No. We have limited resources and Turok1 was built in a codebase that predated all our console code. Naturally there is no "just compile on game console" button in programming.
I mean I don't disagree, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. But it will always be something that stick out, especially since it's not like these devs would truly ever say no to a PS4 release because they asked them to add a platinum to their game.
Resident Evil 4 on PS4 being a good example of that. Shouldn't take a whole new port like CVX for such things to happen when it should just be a standard imo.
This is super interesting! I didn't know that was how it worked.
Thank you for the clarification, I was wondering what the specifics were and figured it was something on Sony's end. Wish they would drop the point values and just let all games be treated the same. Since I definitely know how much more effort it is to add more achievements/trophies from a port rather than just leave what is there alone or add just one more versus several.
I'm well aware of point pool difference between plat and non plat games (as someone with 9000+ of the buggers I should, lol), but isn't it still up to you how to distribute the points allocation? Totally understand if it artistic design (wanted to reward harder trophies with more points) or mathematically it didn't work out with the existing achievements. I'm looking at a game like Gorogoa, which has a platinum trophy, but 11 golds, would that be Sony making an exception, or just pure up to the developer?
To be clear, I'm fine either way, just interested.
Yes-ish. You have 4 options of point value (that being the bronze/silver/gold/platinum type).
To be honest, I never thought of trying that. Huh. But yeah, it would come down to aesthetics if you wanted a fair distribution of each type.
If "My Name Is Mayo" can have a Platinum trophy, any game can. IIRC from ages ago on an episode of PS I Love You, they spoke with some "insider knowledge" about how all that works and the gist was that if the developer makes a stink they can get one, but Sony won't just automatically give them to every game.
Also I am so in on this, tried to play the original version and couldn't even wrap my mind around the wonky controls on that damn N64 controller, no idea how I managed that when it first came out.
Also I am so in on this, tried to play the original version and couldn't even wrap my mind around the wonky controls on that damn N64 controller, no idea how I managed that when it first came out.
The first one is fine, but it hasn't aged as well as the second which I imagine will be coming soon. I really wish Nightdive could get their hands on 3, a game which I genuinely love despite its numerous flaws.
I remember playing this in 3DFX on my PC back in the 90's.
I hope this version has a wider field of view than the original, or at least an option for it. The original game felt horrible to play, like I was playing an FPS while constantly looking through a scope that I couldn't remove.
I hope this version has a wider field of view than the original, or at least an option for it. The original game felt horrible to play, like I was playing an FPS while constantly looking through a scope that I couldn't remove.
I'm guessing the second one isn't far off then, and that LRG will inevitably release both of these physically.
I'd love a remaster of the GBA game with a better difficulty balance.
I'd love a remaster of the GBA game with a better difficulty balance.
That's one of the reasons why I give up on multi-game collections like the Mega Man Legacy Collections.
If you wanna see some weird stuff, Skelattack's trophy list is only four of the achievements on Xbox.
That's really cool to know. I love Trophies and I've always tried to make sense of why some games have Platinums while others don't. Can you shed some more light on the math going behind the "pool" concept? What's the cut off point? Why do some games have more Trophies than others (apart from obvious reasons, like not having anything to tie those Trophies to)?
For example, I've Platinumed quite a few games that have a very low Trophy count, but all of them more than 10 (which is what your game has, IIRC): Metagal, Mochi Mochi Boy, Gravity Duck, Refunct, Zeroptian Invasion, etc. (12), Bouncy Bullets, Without Escape, etc. (13). But then, some others which have more Trophies don't have a Platinum: Superfrog (14), Jetpack Joyride Deluxe, Adventure Capitalist (12), The Walking Dead Season 2 (40!).
It's weird and I've always been curious about the process of assigning Trophies to games.
I probably shouldn't, as I've noticed Sony don't actually talk this system much so I'm not sure if I'm breaking their NDA in this area by explaining these systems.
Though as a note, you could actually start to figure out the ball park of these numbers but looking at the various point values of each game. They are consistent.
Oh, OK, got it ;) I figured Sony would want to keep it under wraps.
Yes, it sucks. But I don't think it's Sony's fault. It should be the developer's choice.
Modus isn't related, and currently we aren't commenting on that yet. Essentially what happened is I accidentally published the Trophies early, so the marketing is still behind.