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Turok: Dinosaur Hunter & Turok 2: Seeds of Evil HD on Nintendo Switch |OT| Cerebral, Not Boring. #TeamFog vs #TeamNoFog
- Thread starter TheMoon
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Good Lord the great memories of the N64 version. Consider the game purchased, thank you for the port!
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God I love the music so much.
And I'm getting flashbacks to how awesome it was back then to shoot arrows into the enemies and being able to pick them up again because they were sticking out of them still.
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That's not how the fog works in these ports.
The fog is there no matter what you do, it's a very important performance requirement and is used to mask level constructs as well (removing the fog would reveal holes everywhere).
What these ports have is extended fog, so it's still there but just pushed out a bit more (levels still had to be edited even for that). It can be toggled back to the original though.
And Treetop Village does allow extended fog, there's no main level that doesn't in either game. That level had the most work done to it in Turok1 because of it.
Thanks. Good to know it was taken into account (should have guessed but mic eto be sure)
Will grab this weekend. T2 not so sure about so will hold off until I'm done with T1
I should have worded myself better: there's just one fog option: extended fog on, extended fog off.
I mention Treetop Village because during my playthough I noticed more fog than usual and I kept turning the extended fog option on and off and didn't notice a difference at all. I figured it was kept at a certain fog level because of how the level was set up.
So this has a nice discount at launch too... Woot!
Game holds up well and is so refreshing to play in 60 FPS. It's an entirely different experience. Really enjoying myself
Game holds up well and is so refreshing to play in 60 FPS. It's an entirely different experience. Really enjoying myself
Totally unrelated, but I'd kill for someone to bring fear to switch. I need to pick this up...and an expansion pak
I apologise; Turns out you're right, I'm working off old notes (Turok1 was 2015 D:). Went back and checked the definitions and sure enough, maxDistance has been reduced to 0.
(game.kpf/defs/mapinfo.txt)
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Map_Village 6
{
title "the treetop village"
map_1 "levels/level14.map"
map_2 "levels/level15.map"
map_3 "levels/level16.map"
mapid_1 14
mapid_2 15
mapid_3 16
maxDistance_1 0
maxDistance_2 0
maxDistance_3 0
warptid 15000
keys 3
script_1 "scripts/map/generic_script.txt"
script_2 "scripts/map/generic_script.txt"
script_3 "scripts/map/generic_script.txt"
}Ah, so I'm not going crazy! :P Don't worry about not remembering, I can't remember what I had to breakfast last week.
I'd even argue that this is a level that truly NEEDS fog in terms of gameplay.
Alright, I had been waiting on a sale for Turok, or a bundle for $30, but $32 for both is close enough.
Downloading and can't wait.
Downloading and can't wait.
Both are worth playing. I like the first one a bit better since it's a tighter, more focused experience. Turok 2 is absolutely bonkers and it's part of its charm - tons of weapons and a lot more variety in the environments and the enemies, but the levels are maze-like to a fault.
I think the original Turok is more atmospheric, but Turok 2 is a better game overall in my opinion.
It just has a lot more variety in terms of weapons, enemies, levels, etc.
Thank you both!
I'll go with.... ahhh can't decide!
This is true. I finished it at least twice as a kid when it came out and found it a maze then.
I then played it again on PC 2 years ago and got lost once again on Level 2 (I missed one key, checked the whole level and still couldn't find it and then I never came back).
I really hope that doesn't happen this time cuz I wanna properly finish the game and see all the levels again. It's such a good game but the maziness is a real issue. IIRC Level 2 and 7 are the worst offenders.
Just go with 1 (first). It's pretty much a 3D Doom clone and it has excellent music, atmosphere, weapons, enemies, fun gameplay, etc. Considerably less mazey than 2. Level 6 is probably the maziest but that pales in comparison to Turok 2.
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So, of course I caved and bought Turok 2 digitally now against my better judgment. And it made me think that I might not have ever left the first level as a kid? I got to the teleporter that brings you to the crazy alien enemy cutscene and the accompanying level and I'm fairly certain I've never seen that as a kid. I must've played the first level in infinite loops all the time ...and then just went to multiplayer, I guess :D
No prob, enjoy!
T2 got a lot more in depth with much less forgiving aim (locational damage is not a thing in 1 but a big thing in 2) and tougher enemies.
Turok 1 is a much simpler game, so I guess YMMV depending on what you're looking for. But it was the first game, nailed what it was going for, and wasn't crazy ambitious like the sequel. It's definitely the right place to start.
2 has a lot more going on in nearly every way.
1 is a run and gun Doom clone while 2 works a bit differently.
Good luck with level 2 then lol. It's a fucking maze and I feel sorry for anyone who has to go through it haha.
I was so pissed playing the new release recently as I was loving every second of it til I realized I missed a key and no idea where it was. Went through the entire level once or twice and still couldn't find it. Was such a buzzkill.
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One of the cheats is a level select, right? I have faint memories of futzing around with those.
edit: ah yea, it was. I might have jumped around at one point to the ending with that but I definitely never used it to play the rest (I was baaaad at games then, holy cow).
edit2: I put a bunch of info about the cheats in the OP for both T1 and T2. T2 just needs one master unlock all cheat but T1 needs a bit more typing. Put the most efficient way in there. After that they can be turned on or off from the menu.
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I'm really glad I started with T1 as it's such a gem so far! Small, focused and smooth! They don't make 'em like this anymore!
Really pleasantly surprised by how much variety and depth in level design the devs could achieve with such a limited palette!
Some really smart decisions too - for example you actually move faster in water! Is that something that used to be more common and I've simply forgotten?
And some of the technology is pretty groundbreaking for the time! Smooth interpolated animation, multiple death animations per character, that satisfying blood splatter, water effects, the realistic way characters shift their weight when they run - as opposed to something like Quake 3 where everyone is seemingly being moved along a rail. Sound effects are on point, music is great, there's even good use of rumble which I don't know if was in the original or not.
I'm up to level 3 and it's my favorite so far.
For some reason I was expecting some sort of exposition as to who this Turok person is and what this world is but honestly it's not important. In my head canon he's the same character from the original Prey.
Some may consider this blasphemy but in many respects Turok 1 feels more like a 3D Metroid to me so far than Prime. It's faster, smoother easier to navigate and scanning is a fucking chore.
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Here's something that bugged me about Turok 2.
In multiplayer, when viewed from a different player's screen, the Raptor character's vertical axis head movement was mapped incorrectly. You'd look down with him, and from the other screen, he looked up.
Anyway, I loved Turok 2 for some reason. Was it a shitty game or was it actually good?
Sad the multiplayer options aren't there for me. Needs that local split, and as a rerelease a thousand years later, they really should have worked in an official co-op mode on Turok 2. I know you could do it in debug mode but the game would freeze at teleporters.
In multiplayer, when viewed from a different player's screen, the Raptor character's vertical axis head movement was mapped incorrectly. You'd look down with him, and from the other screen, he looked up.
Anyway, I loved Turok 2 for some reason. Was it a shitty game or was it actually good?
Sad the multiplayer options aren't there for me. Needs that local split, and as a rerelease a thousand years later, they really should have worked in an official co-op mode on Turok 2. I know you could do it in debug mode but the game would freeze at teleporters.
There is not enough assets to do offical co-op, and the levels aren't structured for it. Would have cost vastly too much dev time to do. Which for, might I add, something that was actually patched out on the second and subsequent wave of carts. Only the initial release ever had that bug.
The "co-op" itself, the ability to warp to the campaign levels at all was itself the bug and was removed from subsequent prints.
I believe they did say this but only for online multiplayer. No split-screen.
It's a real unfortunate loss.
On the NDS Discord, they said that there was a bug when switching resolutions and the graphics were all garbled.
So it's not just me that the game looks too soft?
I thought that something was off!
Man, just played through the 1st level of Turok 1 and this holds up so well. Was shocked to see that the player movement even simulates leaning when you turn or strafe. It's exaggerated, but even shooters made in 2019 STILL don't do this. It's part of why something like Destiny just feels right. And the music. SO GOOD.
I remember loving these games as a kid, and it'ss nice that it holds up in 2019. Looking forward to finishing this one up and then moving on to Turok 2.
I remember loving these games as a kid, and it'ss nice that it holds up in 2019. Looking forward to finishing this one up and then moving on to Turok 2.
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Turok 2 holds up so well. So does Turok 1. The small facelift to both games makes them feel great. So happy revisiting these classics.
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I forgot just how gory Turok 2 is. Geysers of blood everywhere. Also, a small detail I love: ammo pickups can get bloodstained. I expected it to just ignore them, but I had a clip get splattered last night.
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You've probably not shot a bunch of the barrels that explode crumbly walls and reveal switches that then open more doors that then tend to lead to the kids. If you see barrels, always shoot them. Could be just ammo, could be a whole path behind it.