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Turkey will no longer stop the 3.5million Syrian refugees it's hosting from traveling to Europe
- Thread starter poklane
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This is an act of hybrid war on Greece and the rest of the EU by Turkey, and as always when it comes to Turkey the EU stance is the saddest it could be.
Canada is the equivalent of the Hollywood liberals elite. Do the bare minimum and lecture everyone else.
Figured as much. Love Canada but yeah, they have an enormous country and are very selective.
36K refugees have left via Edirne border gate according to Interior Minister.
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Bakan Soylu: Edirne üzerinden 47 bin 113 göçmen ayrıldı
SON DAKİKA HABERİ: İçişleri Bakanı Soylu, "Saat 23.50 itibarıyla Edirne üzerinden ülkemizden ayrılan göçmen sayısı 47 bin 113" dedi.
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If true then Turkey deserves all the heat they can get from this. Using innocent lives for a proper proxy war with us is despicable, and you just know they'll use it as a diversion to stir the pot in the Aegean with naval or aerial troops cause all of our forces will be focused on the land border.36K refugees have left via Edirne border gate according to Interior Minister.
Bakan Soylu: Edirne üzerinden 47 bin 113 göçmen ayrıldı
SON DAKİKA HABERİ: İçişleri Bakanı Soylu, "Saat 23.50 itibarıyla Edirne üzerinden ülkemizden ayrılan göçmen sayısı 47 bin 113" dedi.
No one is pointing a gun to these people and asking for them to leave. They are leaving on their own volition.
You have no idea about the political and social landscape of Turkey right now. So many foreigners think we all support Erdoğan and his policies but in reality, the people are divided into different factions. 30% Erdoğan supporters, 25% social democrats, 10% Kurdish, 10% right-wing nationalists, and the rest is new center-right parties.
We are all broke, unemployment is skyrocketed and people that haven't even voted once for Erdoğan are suffering alongside Erdoğan supporters. We are divided and on the brink of social collapse. Do you know what is the single thing that each one of these factions agree upon? No one wants to look after 4 million Syrians. Not anymore.
According to EU insiders von der leyen spoke to erdogan who said he wants to continue the deal if the EU money stops going to NGOs and into the turkish state budget.
Also frontex is mobilising to help greek border guards once greece asks for support.
Also frontex is mobilising to help greek border guards once greece asks for support.
Yeah sure buddy.
The sad thing is this time around the eu won't budge. Merkel ist still getting hosed by the right for the last time she helped.
Right wingers are just now slowly getting pushed back again. Even the left won't help this time around.
The only thing erdogan is doing with this shit is getting the eu to start their border security for real.
The poor immigrants are getting used like pawns .
Right wingers are just now slowly getting pushed back again. Even the left won't help this time around.
The only thing erdogan is doing with this shit is getting the eu to start their border security for real.
The poor immigrants are getting used like pawns .
So that will be really quickly solved. Well, together with a permanent Frontex positioning.
While I wouldn't have anything against more migrants coming to Germany, other countries need to step up already. Especially the US, but we already know they wont.
Of course.
He wants us to bail him out after he so ably fucked up Turkey's economy.
Wow I didn't expect to see any immediate movement. But after I saw the news, I went to walk. What I saw was lots of people leaving. Lots of people. Today wasn't different.
Whatever happens, I'm sure West will be morally above everyone, more human and less guilty. And totally will be not supported terrorism and destabilization. Maybe last Human Zoo on Europe should've been closed earlier not in 1950's.
Whatever happens, I'm sure West will be morally above everyone, more human and less guilty. And totally will be not supported terrorism and destabilization. Maybe last Human Zoo on Europe should've been closed earlier not in 1950's.
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EU should be right there with Greece and their efforts guarding the EU border. It's sad these people are used as pawns but reality is often harsh. Turkey is obviously specifically targeting Greece, in a form of warfare. Erdogan can fuck off.
I don't know if there are plants or not, but once you start attacking the border and its security, you're not helping your refugee cause. Greece has every right to respond accordingly.
I don't know if there are plants or not, but once you start attacking the border and its security, you're not helping your refugee cause. Greece has every right to respond accordingly.
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I mean I get it. Turkey has around three million refugees. They wanted to create a "safe zone" in Syria to relocate some of the refugees and Europe is refusing to help them.
Now 35+ Turkish soldiers are dead while trying. Fuck Europe for not caring.
Now 35+ Turkish soldiers are dead while trying. Fuck Europe for not caring.
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That "safezone" was nothing but invading Kurdish inhabited areas, expelling the Kurds and replacing them with Arab refugees in Turkey with a bunch of jihadist being in control. What you're doing here is advocating for ethnic cleansing while militarily supporting jihadists, so if you could get the fuck out of here that'd be nice.
#IGreeceUnderAttack is trending on Twitter and is currently flooded with Turkish troll accounts blaming Greece for not accepting the people that have been escorted to the border, spreading misinformation that the Greeks are attacking the immigrants, and also casually showing Muslim men smoking on Greek islands during the summer while looking at scantily-clad woman.
At this point it's clear that Erdogan is fiercely waiting for a mistake by the Greek borderguards that will lead to an immigrant's death, and has spread Turkish agents among the immigrants to facilitate this mistake and help them cross the borders by whatever means necessary.
At this point it's clear that Erdogan is fiercely waiting for a mistake by the Greek borderguards that will lead to an immigrant's death, and has spread Turkish agents among the immigrants to facilitate this mistake and help them cross the borders by whatever means necessary.
100K refugees left for Greece according to Soylu.
I have no idea he gets the exact number, they are obviously putting on a show for their own voters.
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Greek border guard clashing with the refugees. Can I blame Greeks? I don't know.
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I have no idea he gets the exact number, they are obviously putting on a show for their own voters.
Süleyman Soylu on Twitter
“Saat 19.40 itibarıyla Edirne üzerinden ülkemizden ayrılan göçmen sayısı; 100.577”
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Greek border guard clashing with the refugees. Can I blame Greeks? I don't know.
Yunan askerlerden mültecilere sert müdahale
Başta İstanbul olmak üzere Anadolu'nun pek çok kentinden Edirne'ye gelen mülteciler Yunanistan'la kara sınırının olduğu Karaağaç Mahallesi'ndeki Pazarkule Sınır Kapısı önünde toplandı. Kapılarını açmama konusunda ısrarlı olduklarını belirten Yunanistan, askerleri ile birlikte sınırda göçmenlere...
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Yunan askerinden mültecilere sert müdahale
Yunanistan'ın asker ve polisleri, geçişlere kapalı tutulan Pazarkule Sınır Kapısı çevresinde bulunan göçmenlere gaz bombası ile müdahale etti. Tel örgülerin Türkiye tarafındaki arazide günlerdir bekleyen göçmenler, atılan gaz bombası nedeniyle bulundukları bölgeden kaçtı. Özellikle kadın ve...
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This 'safe zone' was not requested nor approved by any EU country. Let's not try to pretend that this wasn't just Turkey invading a neighboring foreign country in civil war (in this case Syria) to annex as much land as possible. It's the fact that Turkey does not want to give this annexed land up that has led to the soldiers dying a few days ago.
No. Protecting your border against illegal and forceful entry of unvetted mass of people is a right of any sovereign nation, especially considering Turkey's intentions here. Refugee or not, it doesn't change the established requirements for legal entry either through legal migration or asylum status.
I wouldn't trust turkish sources. They said 75k this morning while the EU speaks of 15-20k.100K refugees left for Greece according to Soylu.
I have no idea he gets the exact number, they are obviously putting on a show for their own voters.
Süleyman Soylu on Twitter
“Saat 19.40 itibarıyla Edirne üzerinden ülkemizden ayrılan göçmen sayısı; 100.577”
Greek border guard clashing with the refugees. Can I blame Greeks? I don't know.
Yunan askerlerden mültecilere sert müdahale
Başta İstanbul olmak üzere Anadolu'nun pek çok kentinden Edirne'ye gelen mülteciler Yunanistan'la kara sınırının olduğu Karaağaç Mahallesi'ndeki Pazarkule Sınır Kapısı önünde toplandı. Kapılarını açmama konusunda ısrarlı olduklarını belirten Yunanistan, askerleri ile birlikte sınırda göçmenlere...
Yunan askerinden mültecilere sert müdahale
Yunanistan'ın asker ve polisleri, geçişlere kapalı tutulan Pazarkule Sınır Kapısı çevresinde bulunan göçmenlere gaz bombası ile müdahale etti. Tel örgülerin Türkiye tarafındaki arazide günlerdir bekleyen göçmenler, atılan gaz bombası nedeniyle bulundukları bölgeden kaçtı. Özellikle kadın ve...
Oh yeah there is no doubt Turkish sources exaggerating the numbers but we're hearing and seeing an unprecedented number of refugees (Syrian and Afghan mostly) packing up their stuff and going to Edirne.
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What? Arabs have always lived there. You.make it soundike that was Kurdish land from the beginning of time.
How would your country react if a terrorist organisation which is responsible for civilian deaths was right along your border?
Turkey has a double agenda here. Get rid of the kurish terrorists and relocate refugees back to their own country.
People saying it's turkey grabbing land. Cmon now, what would turkey want with a piece of unstable land where nothing is to gain?
The fact that you throw in the genocide word so easily makes me think you are not even willing to seriously debate this.
Bye.
I'm surprised this hasn't escalated beyond Turkey just flooding the EU with refugees. When this news broke I was honestly expecting the Turkish invasion to begin some sort of new ground invasion in Syria.
Glad it hasn't escalated to that yet at least.
Glad it hasn't escalated to that yet at least.
I mean you answered your own question in the paragraph preceding it. Turkey (or Erdogan at least) wants to grab the land to cleanse it from Kurds and then replace them with Arab refugees.
Another one what? I'm calling out your xenophobia. Unless you were being sarcastic and in which case you are being too subtle.
These people need to go to Germany and to the rest of safe, wealthy EU countries, only then will they wake up and start doing something.
Whether the EU likes it or not, they need to do a better job handling the refugee crisis, Turkey can't face the problem alone. They actually have done the most helping the Syrian refugees but they are not obliged to continue.
Those territories were mostly not Kurdish to begin with before the war and the YPG themselves have displaced Syrian Arabs according to Amnesty.
Whether the EU likes it or not, they need to do a better job handling the refugee crisis, Turkey can't face the problem alone. They actually have done the most helping the Syrian refugees but they are not obliged to continue.
What's the source to that assumption, though? If you have it, please share it.
This was something I fully expected to happen. It was basically similiar to boiling spaghetti on the stove and leaving it on high so the foam and the water fall out.
Not sure what people were expecting. The way the crisis was handled by everyone was poor.
Not sure what people were expecting. The way the crisis was handled by everyone was poor.
