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tulsi gabbard responds to hillary clinton (NYT corrects reporting, Clinton said Republicans and not Russians are grooming her for a 3rd party run)
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He's actually new to the political scene here in Hawaii, was first elected to the State Senate in 2016 and is currently serving his second term. He's young, born and raised on the Big Island, and is one of our new crop of progressive politicians.
Ronald Kouchi from Kaua'i, is the head of the Hawaii State Senate.
my favorite moment of his had to be when he said he stood with the leaders of Hawaii in calling for an impeachment inquiry when Tulsi was still against it lol.
I think someone mentioned It at some point on here and it didn't get factchecked eons ago lol
Referring to Tulsi as Orange Girl for the remainder of her campaign would be fitting.
I am not of a fan of Clinton's accusations - I think it's irresponsible for a public figure like her, no matter how much she claims she is merely a private citizen, to say something so inflammatory without substantiation - but Tulsi's response is definitely awful enough on its own to completely discredit her. Also disappointing to see Yang, as mentioned before, and now Marianne
come to Tulsi's defense. It is more in character for Yang, though as usual, he should have chosen his words more carefully, but Marianne's tweet makes less sense. Maybe they're hoping to pick up Tulsi's remaining supporters now that her campaign is basically over.
come to Tulsi's defense. It is more in character for Yang, though as usual, he should have chosen his words more carefully, but Marianne's tweet makes less sense. Maybe they're hoping to pick up Tulsi's remaining supporters now that her campaign is basically over.
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Russia clearly favors her, that's not an unsubstantiated accusation, it's a fact. She's checking a lot of the checkmarks to depress democratic voter turnout by accusing the DNC of being rigged and corrupt, that's a fact. She's on fox news and breitbart spreading right wing talking points, that's a fact.
And now if she runs third party people will have been educated to the motives of it before she even announces it, Hillary check mated her before Tulsi even realized she was playing.
The most true tweet ever written:
"Tulsi's one political skill is recognizing that if you criticize the DNC the faction of people who think that the DNC is the greatest barrier to progressive change in the US will project their own politics onto you irrespective of any and all evidence to the contrary"
"Tulsi's one political skill is recognizing that if you criticize the DNC the faction of people who think that the DNC is the greatest barrier to progressive change in the US will project their own politics onto you irrespective of any and all evidence to the contrary"
There seem to be a not insignificant progressive talking heads who love her.
It's strange.
This is it.
This is what I've been looking for.
I've been wondering why despite her record, progressive talking heads seem to LOVE this woman, and now I've figured it out.
She can totally have opinions, but once she attaches herself to something the effect may not be what she intends (unless she is also a plant).
I agree that Russia favors her. I would even be willing to believe that Tulsi is in some way compromised by Russia. That's fine for me or you to say, and it would be insanely negligent for someone like Clinton to not at least be thinking about it.
All I am saying is that I consider it irresponsible for someone in Clinton's position to just come out and say that publicly without backing up that accusation. People care what Clinton says and it's reasonable to think she has/had access to privileged information. The fact that it has blown up this much in a way that random private citizens saying the same things about Tulsi for months has not proves it was a big deal.
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Not gonna go through the thread but just want to say while Clinton should not have said that shit if anyone here is defending Gabbard to any degree: Go fuck yourself. Tulsi Gabbard is a piece of shit by every objective measure. She has no redeeming qualities as a politician nor a human being and she needs to fuck off forever.
I think it had the desired effect.
Maybe it's just my timeline, but people have been dunking on Tulsi for the past day.
Yeah, she has some defenders, but those same people have been defending her.
But the facts are there. We've known for the past year that Tulsi's campaign is the favorite of Russian bots online. We know she's the favored candidate of RT. We know she had some shady early fundraising. We know she buys ads on sites like Breitbart. And we know she uses Breitbart talking points to attack her opponents. She positions herself as "anti-war" but all of her stances so far are coincidentally aligned with Putin's interests.
If she's not an outright plant, she's playing the role of useful idiot at minimum. And the facts are there. Frankly, I'm tired of people pussyfooting with the obvious. This is our Democracy we're talking about. Hillary said something because, honestly, somebody should have already called her out.
I've been feeling that dude fucked up somewhere along the line and has some info he doesn't want to come out. Or an extremely bad investment.
And not to get too much into the weeds of 2016 because that's always a mess but....
Lost Wisconsin by 22,848. Green party pulled in 31,072 votes.
Lost Michigan by 10,704. Green party pulled in 51,643 votes.
Lost Pennsylvania by 44,292. Green party pulled in 49,941 votes.
Voter suppression at play and other factors as well but I don't know why we're looking at the country at large to look at the influence votes for Stein had in the last federal election. Thankfully none of the candidates have the baggage Hillary does either in the eyes of voters so I wouldn't expect the same results even if tulsi and Stein both run third party.
You about 12 hours to early for church, but you just gave a sermon
this is it. this is why tulsi sucks. if it isnt already apparent to anyone who is sane, she's not a fucking russian plant. she just has awful foreign policy while couching it in the language of anti-interventionism. I wish people who think its a burn to make fun of her ethnic name would make these criticisms instead.
People have made those criticisms over and over and over and over again, though.
You think Gabbard is going to sway tens of thousands of democrats in several states? I don't think she's capable.
If the choice is her, a democrat and Trump, sure. Jill Stein was capable.
in miniature text sandwiched inbetween boomer-level conspiracies that she's a puppet of the kremlin. stop that shit and stop embarrassing yourselves making fun of hindu names while youre at it
whataboutism with 85 posts
Tulsi sucks, but HRC never drops her grudges.
some things never change lmfao
More like she's a useful idiot that absolutely is getting pushed by RT, Russian media, and Russian bots. But, seriously though, if you think that people weren't blaring that Tulsi was an anti-lgbt cult-worshiper that is VERY much pro-millitary you weren't paying attention.
Also, do you honestly think the distortion of Tulsi's name is making fun of her name and not her? Like do you think people posting that are thinking "LMAO, let's be racist to Tulsi"? Cause that's pretty disingenous. And, also, I never distorted her name personally, so there's a strawman.
??? again, not the same thing. I have just as much criticism for the sorts of people who fixate on the anti-LGBT positions she doesn't even hold anymore when she holds hawkish political stances right now. Not to mention a huge number of these same people couldn't give less of a shit about some of their favorite generic democrat's bigotry against queer people less than five years ago.
Is She?
There so many things you can get this woman on and you pick the worst fucking arguments i swear to god
This is a video from 3 years ago:
This isn't ancient history. And she continues to say that that cult leader is a close friend.
There's literally video of her taking part from last year.
as much as i'd like to try a nuanced point out here and say that people can be in fundamentalist faiths while rejecting the more problematic aspects of it (christianity and islam), this is the first im seeing this and yeah. youre right i guess. bad look lol
isnt a cult just a type of religion. you already changed my mind dawg dont ruin it
It's a CULT not a religion. There's a pretty huge difference.
There's no indication they are "good friends" or really had much of any contact in the last decade. Don't spread dishonest crap like this. They mingled in the same New York social circles after the Clintons moved there post presidency, the guy contributed to charity events, then a bunch of people cut ties after rumors around his first arrest.
What is it about Tulsi that has you defending her to this degree?
That she kissed the ring? Complains about the DNC?
my nigga i said she sucks on the last page. im not defending shit. im just saying some of the arguments yall use against her suck shit when there are so many good ones
That's not an answer.
You either don't know the answer, or your afraid to share it.
You went as far as to defend religious fundamentalism, you don't do that unless you have a reason.
Speaking of that...https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hawaii-rep-tulsi-gabbard-accuses-fellow-democrats-of-religious-bigotry-in-questioning-judicial-nominee/2019/01/09/2c17ecdc-1467-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html
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But tell us again how "she's a homophobic bigot who has paid lip service to liberal social issue because of the inability to run as a Republican in Hawaii" argument is a bad one.
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