OK I see. If Clinton said republicans there (the second time) then that makes what Clinton said much less batshit crazy. In fact, Clinton is probably right if she did in fact say Stein is "also a republican asset".The only thing that changed is that Clinton didn't specifically say Russians were grooming Tulsi (for a 3rd party run). She said the GOP are. She still called Tulsi a Russian asset which, hey, that's true. I know you disagree.
Just from remembering after reading the transcript, she did call Tulsi an asset because she called Stein one and said Tulsi is one as well, but, I'll defer to others that probably have the transcript on hand. She started talking about Republicans then switched to Russia rather quickly when talking about Stein.OK I see. If Clinton said republicans there (the second time) then that makes what Clinton said much less batshit crazy. In fact, Clinton is probably right if she did in fact say Stein is "also a republican asset".
I'd have to see or hear the whole thing but it sounds like no, she did not call Tulsi a "Russian asset". She called Stein (and Gabbard) a "republican asset".
OK I see. If Clinton said republicans there (the second time) then that makes what Clinton said much less batshit crazy. In fact, Clinton is probably right if she did in fact say Stein is "also a republican asset".
again, this is the quote:OK I see. If Clinton said republicans there (the second time) then that makes what Clinton said much less batshit crazy. In fact, Clinton is probably right if she did in fact say Stein is "also a republican asset".
I'd have to see or hear the whole thing but it sounds like no, she did not call Tulsi a "Russian asset". She called Stein (and Gabbard) a "republican asset".
This is the original (apparently misquoted) quote though. Clinton (apparently) actually said ..."that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a republican asset".again, this is the quote:
"I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and they're grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said in an interview for Plouffe's Campaign HQ podcast. "She's the favorite of the Russians. They have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a Russian asset."
The mistake in reporting was saying that Clinton was talking about Russians in the first sentence, where she said "they're grooming her to be the third party candidate". She did say (implied) Tulsi was a favorite of the Russians and said Jill Stein was also a Russian asset.
This whole episode is bizarre. Why didn't Clinton come out and clarify earlier? Is the NYT just taking the fall for Clinton or what?
Oh boy.This is fucking hilarious. I bet it was intentional, Clinton played Tulsi so fucking hard ROFL.
no, this is the correct quote. I listened to the segment on the podcast and verified myself. The error was publications taking "they" in "they're grooming her" to mean the russians, when Clinton was talking about what republicans would do to win the election. She explicitly said a certain unnamed democratic candidate was a favorite of the russians and that Stein was a russian asset.This is the original (apparently misquoted) quote though. Clinton (apparently) actually said ..."that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up because she's also a republican asset".
Anyway I don't really even want to say anything else about this. Everyone involved here (Gabbard/Clinton/NYT)...all just garbage lol
.for the record, tulsi is unambiguously the candidate most favored by the russians right now and she is being boosted by a variety of people who are not democrats and don't want democrats to win the presidency. that much shouldn't be controversial.
The Lindsey Graham of Democrats.With each video she puts out, it gets more difficult to argue that Tulsi's just being a "useful idiot" here.
This shit is getting blatant. I'm not linking to the shit, but I half expected her to start chanting "Lock her up."
With each video she puts out, it gets more difficult to argue that Tulsi's just being a "useful idiot" here.
This shit is getting blatant. I'm not linking to the shit, but I half expected her to start chanting "Lock her up."
Ugh, then what in gods name is the thread title talking about? If Clinton did in fact say "Russian asset" then nothing has changed here and the thread title is false. I guess I'm lost on what was corrected then.no, this is the correct quote. I listened to the segment on the podcast and verified myself. The error was publications taking "they" in "they're grooming her" to mean the russians, when Clinton was talking about what republicans would do to win the election. She explicitly said a certain unnamed democratic candidate was a favorite of the russians and that Stein was a russian asset.
Let's be honest. If Clinton corrected the NYT herself it would do nothing to calm down the people dunking on her.This whole episode is bizarre. Why didn't Clinton come out and clarify earlier? Is the NYT just taking the fall for Clinton or what?
You think her saying anything would be construte as anything more then Hillary vs the Media, yet again?This whole episode is bizarre. Why didn't Clinton come out and clarify earlier? Is the NYT just taking the fall for Clinton or what?
It's always interesting when Democrats who are in primaries (two in the case of Tulsi) bash the Obama administration, considering Obama has like a 95% favorability rating among Democrats...
Tulsi's HI-2 primary opponent:
So a warmonger homophobe in a biogted cult is better?oh man I lowkey would take Tulsi over an Obama/Clinton bootlicker.
idk cults are kinda dope dude have you seen Midsommar? that shit is wild.
Nice for you to say outright instead of continuing to create ex post facto rationales to cover for the tribal motivations.oh man I lowkey would take Tulsi over an Obama/Clinton bootlicker.
She kissed Bernie's ring so it's fiiine.
well 2 of those 4 people didn't send people to ACTUAL war.
like yeah Tulsi will do some dumb shit like meet with a dictator but she hasn't and never will be in a position to kill a bunch of brown people just because it's politically convenient.
oh man I lowkey would take Tulsi over an Obama/Clinton bootlicker.
what path do you see for Tulsi to start a war lol? check the polls, she's doing Marianne level numbers.
there's plenty to dislike about Obama and Clinton even if you're not a conservative, be it incrementalism, their ties to large corporations or the way they handled military conflict. Obviously they're both still a gazillion times better than any republican.You'd really take Tulsi? That's not so low key ridiculous. Obama and Clinton weren't bad at all. Being convinced by GOP talking points is some poor judgement.
Why are you cool with homophobia?oh man I lowkey would take Tulsi over an Obama/Clinton bootlicker.
there's plenty to dislike about Obama and Clinton even if you're not a conservative, be it incrementalism, their ties to large corporations or the way they handled military conflict. Obviously they're both still a gazillion times better than any republican.
there's plenty to dislike about Obama and Clinton even if you're not a conservative, be it incrementalism, their ties to large corporations or the way they handled military conflict. Obviously they're both still a gazillion times better than any republican.
Homophobia or Clinton? Goddamn choices! Am I rite?
I'm sorry when did Clinton decide same sex marriage was cool again? or Obama?
Yeah what a wimper
And clearly he wasn't only scratching the surface of the malfeasance in that 400 page report
Also this....
Again, she was talking about republicans initially, in particular when talking about the 3rd party grooming. Then she switched to Stein and quickly changed the conversation to Russia which she then called Tulsi an asset as well.Hold on, am I crazy? I swear I heard the audio on The View when they did a segment on it and she said the Russians? The whole View discussion was about Russians, too. Were we all just primed to hear Russians, or is this tweet fake?
Uh huh. Well, she may be a homophobe but that's not what she's running on! When your hate for Hillary Clinton causes you to cheerlead trash that loves to get boosted by Russia and White Supremacists.
As somebody that still supports Bernie as a second, I hope he just shuts up about Tulsi now.
You know the core of her platform? Her own beliefs. Are you (really, seriously) about to argue Tulsi Gabbard isn't anti-LGBQT?her cult shit is whack but her platform is definitely *not* homophobic.
she did mention russia but her reference to "grooming" wasn't about russia. a lot of outlets ran headlines saying "Clinton suggests Russia is grooming Tulsi Gabbard".Hold on, am I crazy? I swear I heard the audio on The View when they did a segment on it and she said the Russians? The whole View discussion was about Russians, too. Were we all just primed to hear Russians, or is this tweet fake?
You know the core of her platform? Her own beliefs. Are you (really, seriously) about to argue Tulsi Gabbard isn't anti-LGBQT?