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Soupman Prime

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Nov 8, 2017
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Not sure if this is controversial, I'm sure there are a ton of people who think he should get in and others who are fine with him never getting in.

Not sure if this is correct but saw it somewhere here, didn't he agree to the ban or accept it just thinking maybe they'd let him in later on.
If the cheaters start getting in then maybe they should allow Pete, his name has already been tarnished by his own hand.
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah a lot of people want Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame. I'm indifferent but this isn't that crazy a comment.
 

djplaeskool

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not really a crazy sentiment, especially now in the wake of the Astros Sign-stealing fiasco and the (non-) punishments coming out of that.
 

dots

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Oct 27, 2017
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He accepted a lifetime ban in exchange for MLB dropping their investigation.

You don't get to do that then change you mind.

Of course Trump thinks there should be no consequences.
 

Fisty

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is the most important thing to have on a President's mind. Yep totally normal.
 

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I would say he should be accepted into the Hall, except for that part where he agreed to take the deal to not get it in. It was years and years back, but he did agree to it. Sucks but thems the breaks.
 

affeinvasion

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Oct 26, 2017
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Not really a crazy sentiment, especially now in the wake of the Astros Sign-stealing fiasco and the (non-) punishments coming out of that.
These are not the same. Betting on games is the cardinal sin of sports because you're probably not trying to win. It's easier to purposefully lose a game than it is to win one. Cheating to be better at winning gets punished heavily but doesn't get you completely removed from the game because people don't cheat to lose games. Also in the recent sign-stealing scandal, players were given immunity or MLB would have never uncovered anything. The Astros got hit with an unprecedented penalty, so it's not like there wasn't punishment levied. Pete Rose agreed to be banned, thinking that the next commissioner would pardon him, but he completely signed off on it.
 

Mr.Awesome

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Nov 4, 2017
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I would say he should be accepted into the Hall, except for that part where he agreed to take the deal to not get it in. It was years and years back, but he did agree to it. Sucks but thems the breaks.
He accepted a lifetime ban in exchange for MLB dropping their investigation.

You don't get to do that then change you mind.

Of course Trump thinks there should be no consequences.
Here:

"Rose signed an agreement accepting the punishment but did not admit to violating MLB Rule 21, which prohibits players and team officials from betting on baseball games. In 1991, he was banned from the Hall of Fame after its board of directors ruled that no player on the ineligible list could be inducted."

So the hall of fame decided afterwards that the ineligible list was banned from the hall
 

djplaeskool

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Sly Chimera

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Oct 29, 2017
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If you are betting on yourself some days then obviously its also affecting the other days especially when you can just save up your best players for the days you are betting on the team. With how much he said he bet, not betting on the team might as well be telling the bookie and everyone else in the know to bet against the Reds affecting the integrity of everything. Don't let him in, don't let the Astros in
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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"He gambled...but only on his own team winning!"

Isn't....that the point?
 

Osan912

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Sep 22, 2018
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Didn't homeboy admit to trying to hook up with a teenage girl. That alone doesn't engender me to feeing sympathetic for him never getting into the HOF
 

WedgeX

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Oct 27, 2017
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He accepted a lifetime ban in exchange for MLB dropping their investigation.

You don't get to do that then change you mind.

Of course Trump thinks there should be no consequences.

It's not much different than what many corrupt politicians do - accept a plea deal down to Y, down from X, then spend the next decade saying that what they did wasn't that serious since they're guilty of Y instead of X.
 
Oct 25, 2017
41,368
Miami, FL
"He gambled...but only on his own team winning!"

Isn't....that the point?
No. The implication of an athlete, coach or referee betting on a sport they are influencing is potentially throwing games or cheating teams to win bets. Betting on his team *to win* is the opposite of that. Hell, it may have even provided him extra motivation.
 
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