Looks like Senate Dems may well force his hand. Or at least try to
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...democrats-mcconnell-government-shutdown-bills
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...democrats-mcconnell-government-shutdown-bills
makes sense. Realistically, he owns this shutdown just as much as Trump at this point, perhaps even more. If he were the adult in the room, he'd have ended this a long time ago. Dems need to put just as much pressure/spotlight on him and don't just let him recede into the background while Trump gobbles up all the attention. It's not just him at this point.
There absolutely is a useful discussion to be had, maybe not specifically with flat earthers, but at least using that as a framing device to understand why it's jmpossible.Not necessarily. People disagree about the curvature of the earth but that doesn't imply there's a useful discussion to be had about it.
There absolutely is a useful discussion to be had, maybe not specifically with flat earthers, but at least using that as a framing device to understand why it's jmpossible.
Great, let's you and me have a discussion about why the people who think the Democrats are to blame are stupid
I say it's because they're either deeply ignorant or acting in bad faith
Great, let's you and me have a discussion about why the people who think the Democrats are to blame are stupid
I say it's because they're either deeply ignorant or acting in bad faith
federal workers should just quit and get another job. this will happen frequently from now on
Who said there was?
The existence of Santa Claus.
It's already deadGraham said that under a potential deal "the president gets his security funding and can add some things to the mix that would draw some bipartisan support."
I believe it's because they're ignorant, which is why I engage them in discussion when I can.
To think that every dissenting argument in this thread is "bad faith" is egotistical.
Good. Fuck their happiness.
Kushner brought peace to the Middle East, he can bring peace here!
What if they accept a deal for a wall, just don't say what wall, step 2 make a wall around trump golf track, step 3 enjoy the peace
Oh god I can hear it now.If Jared is already doing damage control we can't be too far from Ivanka just trying to keep her dad calm, and explaining, "You could be a real hero if you save the USA from the shutdown, daddy! Just think of what Fox will say!"
:(Well at the very least he'd be able to keep out the "Coyotes".
Oh god I can hear it now.
"I didn't have to end the #SchumerShutdown and people told me I shouldn't, but I said to myself "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IT HAS TO END!" So I bravely picked up my marker and signed the bill. YOU ARE WELCOME AMERICA! #MAGA"
Oh god I can hear it now.
"I didn't have to end the #SchumerShutdown and people told me I shouldn't, but I said to myself "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IT HAS TO END!" So I bravely picked up my marker and signed the bill. YOU ARE WELCOME AMERICA! #MAGA"
:(
Yeah, just keep it going until two thirds of the federal workforce is homeless. That'll show 'em how much he cares about Americans.I could see this easily continuing till late February and even pass that. It's a likely possibility.
No chance. The Republicans up for re-election in 2020 in non blood red states are sweating bullets. If federal workers miss one more paycheck they know they are done.I could see this easily continuing till late February and even pass that. It's a likely possibility.
Yeah, just keep it going until two thirds of the federal workforce is homeless. That'll show 'em how much he cares about Americans.
No chance. The Republicans up for re-election in 2020 in non blood red states are sweating bullets. If federal workers miss one more paycheck they know they are done.
I think it's intellectually shallow to worry too much about it honestly. It's very likely that many people "ignorant" of Trumps racism are intentionally so or disengenuous in intent but even so as long as you don't get dragged into the rhetorical weeds the discussion is still valuable.I agree. A lot of them are just morons.
The question to ask, though, is, at what point are you choosing to act like a moron?
A lot of people claimed to be too stupid to understand that Trump was racist after they voted for him. Some of them maybe were telling the truth, although typically people that stupid aren't aware of it. But do you really think every one of them was actually that dumb, given that saying you're that dumb is a guaranteed indulgence from your progressive relatives?
I sometimes have doubts that people are really as dumb as they say they are when being dumb is the best defense they have.
has anyone ever called you a pedant before
He's not going to kill himself.
I'm not saying he will. I'm saying right now I want him, on TV, to eat a gun till it clicksHe's not going to kill himself.
Hell, being president has made him more miserable than he'e ever been, he doesn't like or care about the job and country but he's going to run again just to spite everyone. He's a real piece of shit.
She's being a lot more solid on this thatn I'd thought she would be, I'll admit. Still can't say Black Lives Matter without a "but" , but holding firm on No Wall is pretty good.I am not seeing a lot of people criticizing Nancy Pelosi anymore.
I take it Era is happy with her ovarian fortitude?
I am certainly happy Trump isn't wasting my taxpayer money on his penis monument.
I'm not saying he will. I'm saying right now I want him, on TV, to eat a gun till it clicks
I am not seeing a lot of people criticizing Nancy Pelosi anymore.
I take it Era is happy with her ovarian fortitude?
I am certainly happy Trump isn't wasting my taxpayer money on his penis monument.
Can we wait until everything hehey we cant talk that way abo...actually no. fuck that. i hope he does too. hes causing so much harm to this country.
I think it's intellectually shallow to worry too much about it honestly. It's very likely that many people "ignorant" of Trumps racism are intentionally so or disengenuous in intent but even so as long as you don't get dragged into the rhetorical weeds the discussion is still valuable.
Graham said that under a potential deal "the president gets his security funding and can add some things to the mix that would draw some bipartisan support."
Graham summarized the framework as "the wall plus something else" that he hopes would garner some Democratic support.
For giggles, what could the republican party compromise on for democrats to actually vote for the wall? Last year was DACA but that's out the window now.