Looks like Senate Dems may well force his hand. Or at least try to
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...democrats-mcconnell-government-shutdown-bills
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...democrats-mcconnell-government-shutdown-bills
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Trump walked out of the meeting about shutdown after Pelosi said "No" to the wall yet again
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Super unlikely to be the case, but I honestly wonder how the USA would react if McConnel came forward and said, "It was *I* who wrote the NYT Op-Ed about being a hidden rebel in the Whitehouse!"
There absolutely is a useful discussion to be had, maybe not specifically with flat earthers, but at least using that as a framing device to understand why it's jmpossible.
Trump, like all sociopaths, is terrified to die.
I would be to if I knew hell was a rock solid guarantee.
Great, let's you and me have a discussion about why the people who think the Democrats are to blame are stupid
I say it's because they're either deeply ignorant or acting in bad faith
I believe it's because they're ignorant, which is why I engage them in discussion when I can.
To think that every dissenting argument in this thread is "bad faith" is egotistical.
LOL
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...oderate-republicans-to-seek-shutdown-solution
they're not happy
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate...oderate-republicans-to-seek-shutdown-solution
they're not happy
Those jobs are one of the few that still have pensions. People aren't leaving.
I agree. A lot of them are just morons.
The question to ask, though, is, at what point are you choosing to act like a moron?
A lot of people claimed to be too stupid to understand that Trump was racist after they voted for him. Some of them maybe were telling the truth, although typically people that stupid aren't aware of it. But do you really think every one of them was actually that dumb, given that saying you're that dumb is a guaranteed indulgence from your progressive relatives?
I sometimes have doubts that people are really as dumb as they say they are when being dumb is the best defense they have.
Kushner brought peace to the Middle East, he can bring peace here!
If Jared is already doing damage control we can't be too far from Ivanka just trying to keep her dad calm, and explaining, "You could be a real hero if you save the USA from the shutdown, daddy! Just think of what Fox will say!"
Well at the very least he'd be able to keep out the "Coyotes".
Oh god I can hear it now.
"I didn't have to end the #SchumerShutdown and people told me I shouldn't, but I said to myself "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IT HAS TO END!" So I bravely picked up my marker and signed the bill. YOU ARE WELCOME AMERICA! #MAGA"
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I know I know, but if we could convince him to essentially entomb himself in his golf course and never have to deal with him again, I consider that a win.
I could see this easily continuing till late February and even pass that. It's a likely possibility.
Yeah, just keep it going until two thirds of the federal workforce is homeless. That'll show 'em how much he cares about Americans.
I like it!
Also can't help but think about "The art of the deal" bullshit every time this stubborn fool throws a fit.
I read earlier that SNAP funding for February will be covered, via some financial trickery.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/usd...anteed-through-february-despite-shutdown.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/09/usd...anteed-through-february-despite-shutdown.html
No chance. The Republicans up for re-election in 2020 in non blood red states are sweating bullets. If federal workers miss one more paycheck they know they are done.
I thought he doesn't already?
Here's hoping then for this mess to be over in the next two weeks.
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I think it's intellectually shallow to worry too much about it honestly. It's very likely that many people "ignorant" of Trumps racism are intentionally so or disengenuous in intent but even so as long as you don't get dragged into the rhetorical weeds the discussion is still valuable.
He's not going to kill himself.
Hell, being president has made him more miserable than he'e ever been, he doesn't like or care about the job and country but he's going to run again just to spite everyone. He's a real piece of shit.
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I'm not saying he will. I'm saying right now I want him, on TV, to eat a gun till it clicks
She's being a lot more solid on this thatn I'd thought she would be, I'll admit. Still can't say Black Lives Matter without a "but" , but holding firm on No Wall is pretty good.
hey we cant talk that way abo...actually no. fuck that. i hope he does too. hes causing so much harm to this country.
She has definitely impressed me with standing firm on this issue. I think for many of us we're just burned from so many attempts to compromise with what has fundamentally become a party that acts like terrorists, but this time she's put her foot down and I'm far less worried about her than I am about Schumer.
Can we wait until everything he
He's too stupid to do it, but I'm willing to bet at leaat one of his associates will kill himself before all is said and done. Once indictments start to roll out, they'll know how screwed they really are and won't want to face the pain and humiliation Manafort is being put through now.
Why?
You keep asserting this. I do not believe it is valid as a general principle!
Graham: "So we're thinking funding for the wall and --"
Pelosi: "Let me stop you right there"
For giggles, what could the republican party compromise on for democrats to actually vote for the wall? Last year was DACA but that's out the window now.
