Trump supporters would probably argue there would be less shootings if less illegals were in the country.
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Trump to sign government funding bill and declare national emergency (UPDATE: declared)
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Trump supporters would probably argue there would be less shootings if less illegals were in the country.
If this doesn't die in court then Congress is de facto abolished
I was born and raised in a suburb of Phoenix Arizona called Guadalupe. This town is no bigger than a square mile made up of ~75% Hispanics. If you don't know the town you would think its Mexico (culture...not because of illegals). Outsiders really came known to it because of Sheriff Joe Arpaio. This POS would set up "immigration sweeps" in Guadalupe and other Latino neighborhoods in Phoenix. It was a fuckin circus in my town. And it cited fear and hate from outsiders who knew nothing about what makes Guadalupe beautiful.
When I was in school, I was picked on like any other kid. But there would be those kids that would call me a "wetback", "spic", or someone telling me "Did you swim or walk across?". No matter if I am a Mexican American, born in the US, the color of my skin is synonymous with "crossing the border" or being an illegal. A wall would represent that hate that I have received. It is signifying that "fuck you Mexicans, you can't come here".
I do know families that are here illegally. They all came here for that "American Dream". And a wall wouldn't have stopped them.
It's becoming more and more clear he probably has dementia - the weird tangents, nonsense stories, walking out in the middle of meetings, confusing fantasies for reality.
They're already convinced the wall will stop overstaying immigrants, even though most of them come through port of call transport like airports and shipping docks. Reality is not their strong suit.
Nah, He's just a self serving jackass that will say anything for approval and to get his way, insulated by 70 years of money and yes men. He just says the words he thinks will get people to give him what he wants. They have as much meaning as open sesame.
Trump really wants that wall. Well he can shove every gram of concrete and steel for it right up his ass.
When drugs mostly come from legal ports of entry and the country has a net zero immigration flow, ask yourself: Why would anyone paint this as a "national emergency" that a wall would fix? It's almos as if Trump and his base are irrationally scared of something or someone... almost like they're phobic about a certain group of people... hmmm...
It's amazing to me that the Republican Party in 2019 would have no problem with seizing land from law abiding Americans. It's anathema to them conceptually and an incredible beacon of 'big government.' Like what the fuck.
The republican party of 2019 has no values set in stone. Their positions change with the wind. As long as minorities are being hurt.
The republican party is merely a front for radical conservative oligarchs. They do what their money men tell them to. There is no autonomy, nor any free-thought within what masquerades as a representative political entity.
Imagine That Was Obama. I've seen more outrage from them over a tan suit than constitutional over-reach and taking peoples land.
Signed acc to this. I assume if he hadnt we would be a shutdown as its past 15th.
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...r-a-lago-after-signing-bill-to-avert-shutdown
Unlike Coulter, he's gobbling up every drop of spunk his master is dropping. His twitter is just reposts of the declaration and how AOC is bad for standing up against the President. Oh and of course the usual "Deep State" conspiracies.
That press conference was embarrassing. Like watching a petulant child speak about why they were punished but were actually right. I will never forgive you, republican voters. Never.
I see, thanks. I figured as much, but you never know anymore lol.
There is more context behind calling Trump racist then just this wall issue. For example, he has been calling Mexicans murders and rapists.
Trump is just mad about the outcome of his Trump University fraud. He literally said that he would have won his case if the judge wasn't Mexican. He ran Trump University like Amway.
I dunno, they seem pretty consistent to me.
Me > my family > straight white men > everyone else
Question.
So, what can be done to stop this? I mean stop the process, drag it out for two years, stopping them allowing bidders to try and get the contracts to build it? In my country we have a Constitutional Court that sits above the Supreme Court in authority that would halt the process if they feel it doesnt warrant a national emergency or even if the seizing of land or forcing a lower compensation to the owners before seizing it. I mean, literally millions of ways to halt the President here, and it has happened before.
Are there going to be mechanisms in place to do that in the US?
The president has way to much unchecked vested power over there... almost like it was a hope decent people would make it to the White House.. and Trump, the GOP... their the furthest thing from decent.
We literally had a president selling us out to Russia, handing out contracts to Russian state linked firms with Billions, and in some cases Trillions (like for the building of multiple Nuclear Power Plants across the country incurring debt that'd take decades to pay off) and the opposition political parties (that werent aligned with the Governing party went to court until a judge threw away the documents with Russia rendering them null and void), surely the dems can go to court over this in some way, any way.
Drawing this process out beyond 2 years atleast.
In my mind.. I just know some alt right scum like Luckey Palmer and many we dont know that work in the shadows and are GOP pals are scrambling for contracts... reminds me of the war in Iraq and GOP business interests in various companies.. now Im sure their all in construction.
So, what can be done to stop this? I mean stop the process, drag it out for two years, stopping them allowing bidders to try and get the contracts to build it? In my country we have a Constitutional Court that sits above the Supreme Court in authority that would halt the process if they feel it doesnt warrant a national emergency or even if the seizing of land or forcing a lower compensation to the owners before seizing it. I mean, literally millions of ways to halt the President here, and it has happened before.
Are there going to be mechanisms in place to do that in the US?
The president has way to much unchecked vested power over there... almost like it was a hope decent people would make it to the White House.. and Trump, the GOP... their the furthest thing from decent.
We literally had a president selling us out to Russia, handing out contracts to Russian state linked firms with Billions, and in some cases Trillions (like for the building of multiple Nuclear Power Plants across the country incurring debt that'd take decades to pay off) and the opposition political parties (that werent aligned with the Governing party went to court until a judge threw away the documents with Russia rendering them null and void), surely the dems can go to court over this in some way, any way.
Drawing this process out beyond 2 years atleast.
In my mind.. I just know some alt right scum like Luckey Palmer and many we dont know that work in the shadows and are GOP pals are scrambling for contracts... reminds me of the war in Iraq and GOP business interests in various companies.. now Im sure their all in construction.
RE: Coulter
The reason she keeps pushing Trump to do extreme shit is because she's a white supremacist, an authoritarian and a fascist. Choosing within yourself to be 'amenable' to her help and thereby validating her space in the public sphere is a little dangerous. It's reckless day-trading. People like her are sure to come back with a slightly smarter and more competent Mussolini rehash to run for office next time.
She can get to fuck, as always.
The reason she keeps pushing Trump to do extreme shit is because she's a white supremacist, an authoritarian and a fascist. Choosing within yourself to be 'amenable' to her help and thereby validating her space in the public sphere is a little dangerous. It's reckless day-trading. People like her are sure to come back with a slightly smarter and more competent Mussolini rehash to run for office next time.
She can get to fuck, as always.
It was only a few years ago when conservatives were rallying behind cattle ranchers freeloading off government land who somehow felt they were the ones being wronged
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff
But, yeah, now seizing privately owned land is fine.
The best one of late was the account whose first post on the site was in an already contentious topic just to tell people how they didn't understand what Hitler was really about.
That is true, to an extent. Now their Frankenstein monster has been off the leash and is controlling them now, Trump is merely a manifestation of the average Fox News viewer.
NAh he's just intensely stupid, childish, selfish and insecure. All the right ingredients for an evil idiot.the man knows nothing.
Let's be real about Fox News, they've managed to sell an obese gameshow host into the 'leader of the free world'.
Yup. Which is why it shouldn't. But if it does, the next Dem president should make things interesting - especially with Climate Change given the avalanche of evidence for it.
Trump is mad hes a weak president. He staked his whole campaign on the wall. This was going to be a monument to Trump, his legacy. This was about his ego. No amount of facts or reasoning was going to get him to back down.
It's not that dissimilar from what they did in the Bush years
Those don't explain his mental decline over the past few years.
I saw her once taking the train in NYC thinking to myself how disgusted she must feel being surrounded by such diverse crowd. Made me smile!
Because Republicans generally don't actuallt want small government. They just don't want government to impact what they care about. They are perfectly happy to use heavy government actions to get what they want.
J.D. Durkin @jiveDurkey
just in — a source at the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach just texted me this photo taken a short time ago.
omelette bar:
9:35 AM - Feb 16, 2019
Hannah Morse @mannahhorse
.@realDonaldTrump arrives at Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach at 8:42 a.m. #TrumpInPalmBeach @pbpost
8:43 AM - Feb 16, 2019
just in — a source at the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach just texted me this photo taken a short time ago.
omelette bar:
9:35 AM - Feb 16, 2019
Hannah Morse @mannahhorse
.@realDonaldTrump arrives at Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach at 8:42 a.m. #TrumpInPalmBeach @pbpost
8:43 AM - Feb 16, 2019
J.D. Durkin @jiveDurkey
just in — a source at the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach just texted me this photo taken a short time ago.
omelette bar:
9:35 AM - Feb 16, 2019
Hannah Morse @mannahhorse
.@realDonaldTrump arrives at Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach at 8:42 a.m. #TrumpInPalmBeach @pbpost
8:43 AM - Feb 16, 2019
They also have no problem with making the military do a bunch of useless construction just to avert Congress.
Dubya signed the 2006 Security Fence Act which would have built hundreds of miles of extra fence along the border. There are STILL dozens of court cases pending from that as many landowners sued the government.
WaPo: Trump's wall needs private property. But some Texans won't give up their land without a fight
J.D. Durkin @jiveDurkey
just in — a source at the Trump International Golf Club in Palm Beach just texted me this photo taken a short time ago.
omelette bar:
9:35 AM - Feb 16, 2019
Hannah Morse @mannahhorse
.@realDonaldTrump arrives at Trump International Golf Club West Palm Beach at 8:42 a.m. #TrumpInPalmBeach @pbpost
8:43 AM - Feb 16, 2019
why is there so much ketchup at this omelette bar
the one thing I will defend Trump for is his love of ketchup
"Obama used executive powers too!/Obama declared 13 national emergencies!/We didn't have a choice in passing Obamacare!" seem to be the conservative excuses, from my brief browsing on Twitter.
Both of these are 100% accurate. They have two jobs to keep the oligarchs happy and promote ways to hurt minority groups to ensure they get the rural white vote. It use to be dog whistles were enough for them to get votes but Trump not understanding what he was doing at all has decided to act on these things denying the politicians involved any option to pretend those hateful policies were benign neglect or just empty pandering.