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Trump supporters protesting 'stay at home' lockdown measures outside of Michigan Capitol
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Don't say that, they stupid and uncaring enough they'd still go out and spread it to other people.
Maybe if they were POC the government would find a way to charge them with crimes. They're white and Republican so no, nothing will happen.
If you are daring me to take your guns, getting covid will just make it that much easier. I prefer the challenge of storming your artillery base camp back at home. I'm comin' fo ya!
I, I just don't know what to say.
For anyone here that knows me, you likely know I'm a conservative and always have been. As time moves forward, this current pandemic has made me question various things more and more. Not so much my core beliefs, but rather how I view so many folks on the right. The true character of folks have been revealed in a way unlike ever seen before. I have lost multi-year friends over all of this. I feel like people are losing their minds and going insane on a daily basis. I feel completely and totally alone sometimes.
Maybe it's because I'm immunocompromised? Maybe it's because my parents are both over 70? I've taken this pandemic more seriously than anyone else in my personal life and I did so very early on. I'm constantly just speechless over what I'm seeing people seriously say. I covertly joined a few Facebook groups to see more of what these people are saying and it legit worries me.
I've never been so conflicted in my life.
For anyone here that knows me, you likely know I'm a conservative and always have been. As time moves forward, this current pandemic has made me question various things more and more. Not so much my core beliefs, but rather how I view so many folks on the right. The true character of folks have been revealed in a way unlike ever seen before. I have lost multi-year friends over all of this. I feel like people are losing their minds and going insane on a daily basis. I feel completely and totally alone sometimes.
Maybe it's because I'm immunocompromised? Maybe it's because my parents are both over 70? I've taken this pandemic more seriously than anyone else in my personal life and I did so very early on. I'm constantly just speechless over what I'm seeing people seriously say. I covertly joined a few Facebook groups to see more of what these people are saying and it legit worries me.
I've never been so conflicted in my life.
You're a human being with empathy and that trusts expertise. Don't let labels and cultural norms of your surroundings and community define you. Being a conservative doesn't mean that you agree with giving up and letting COVID-19 win. There are plenty of great conservative plans to beat this, such as the AEI plan. Share them with your friends.
Protesting like this to just give up the fight against the disease and against reason is the most nihilistic response I can imagine to this crisis.
A lot of these people are probably out of a job with rent and bills due, but hey socialism is bad so I don't know how to feel.
Chickens coming home to roost.
Chickens coming home to roost.
I really hope people call out the scum who participateD in that protest for what they really are. And that's evil racist demons who only care about themselves. They're reasoning is that the virus is only affecting the Blacks in Detroit so they feel punished.
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I honestly think the ambulances should have driven right through them. And blocking a hospital purposely should get you locked up for a good long while.
Seeing as people like this only care about themselves, they'll choose the option that benefits them, at the expense of others.
It's pretty much the main aspect of being a far, right wing conservative.
With our luck all these fucking idiots will all be asymptomatic or have minor symptoms while passing it to those who aren't dumbfucks and thus we'll be pushing further ahead to our Idiocracy like future that people argued could never happen.
Europe sent all of their crazies to the US over the course of a few centuries and they've bred with each other and multiplied.
"Evil Fauci and WHO forcing Trump to approve the lockdown! That's why we need to buy more guns!"
I see Capcom finally given us a good Resident Evil game this year.
America would reopen faster if people would just sit their asses home but they keep doing dumb unnecessary shit like this.
Honestly surprised stuff like this isn't happening more, I mean isn't this the sort of stuff the pro gun Americans claim they have their guns for? To rise up against a tyrannical government if they infringe your freedom?
What's so great about this plan? The writer is just putting a soft voice on routine, evil conservative talking points. He wants working class people and health care workers to risk their lives so rich people can quickly get back to getting richer, even if there's not enough testing to provide decent cover.
The reason an empathetic, politically conservative person would feel conflicted during all of this is because having empathy is at odds with being politically conservative. This has always been the case, but being a conservative in a group victimized by conservative thought should make such a conservative do a double take.
Leopards keep eating people's faces and the Leopard's Eating People's Faces party members keep getting surprised by it.
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The bullet before that reads "set what the goals should be". Maybe the initial goal is to reduce transmission below an effective R-naught of 1, protect vulnerable populations like nursing homes, and buy time for treatments, scale up testing, and identify immune individuals. Once we have a treatment that reduced infection fatality rate-does it make sense to readjust for effective R naught of 1 and just keep things steady state?
Like, not having kids educated in schools is a calamity. Mentally unwell people are going to suffer if extreme distancing goes on for a long time. Substance abuse will skyrocket. There are very real costs to extreme distancing outside just economic opportunity cost.
You could argue, that they already are quite ill, though not from a physical illness.
Like I said, the writer is using a soft voice to deliver evil talking points.
Immediately after saying we should set goals, he/she says we need to seriously consider trading lives for economic opportunity. What kind of goals do you think will be set by a person who thinks this way? He/she literally says we need to be willing to open up prior to testing and treatment being adequate based on medical expert calculations.
He mentions it looks like NY can start opening up because they are under capacity for hospital beds and ventilators. Doesnt mention the human beings who are treating these sick patients being severley overworked and under equipped for the current work load.
Obviously, once we have a treatment and capacity to open without using the working class as bodies thrown into a grinder for profit, we should do it. But that's not what this document suggests.
The extreme costs of social distancing do not meet or exceed the extreme costs of failing to control the spread of this disease. Mentally unwell people, school aged children, substance abusers are going to suffer if they and/or those they depend on are dying due to the disease or consequences of a resurgence stymieing our health system and supply chain.
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Be a conservative, don't be a Republican. The Republicans are an anti science, Trump death cult at this point.
I'll say this in the best way I can: if your beliefs lead to people doing this, you better put those beliefs in the trash and change.
Not to try and jab you while you're hurting, but their minds were already likely to be lost. You're just seeing it in more obvious red lines. This virus is exposing a lot of the lunacy of conservatism in America. Like, peak shit about how humans still don't deserve health care and affordability of vaccines and tests craziness that all but assures this virus might be eradicated in the rest of the world but be cemented as part of America due to its pitfalls and shortcomings.
Jobs cult culture showing up here plays a lot into the problems of the right today. Jobs are seen as the objective good thing. They are a form of freedom, and they must be had in order to people to live decently, or at least that's the current poisonous imposition. The market matters above all. It's seen as a form of "freedom" to be shackled to work to get health care and "benefits" even if doing so is to assure a literal virus with no vaccine will spread. These are the same people who say the market doing good is good, even if they will admit, in the same breath, that good never reflects in their own personal lives. It's like throwing people in volcanos to appease the local deity: it's a sacrifice to thought, to belief, and in a way a fight with reality.
As always these calls of freedom are often not freedom for, but freedom from. "Freedom" to risk illness. "Freedom" to normalize the problem by saying "if I have to suffer in this climate (by working) you all have to, too." The diseases of isolationism and individualism hijacking the conservative movement are almost always the first points of failure that lead to this type of stumbling. Better to be free to go in a store without a mask and not be told to fall into collectivist agendas to mitigate spread because reasons, I guess. In order to defend the belief of freedom and isolationism, the virus has to be seen as a hoax, a scam, a form of Communism. You don't even have to show me the Facebook groups you looked at, but I'm sure what I said in my previous sentence you have likely seen by skimming through said groups.
Y'all Qaeda scares me too, for the record. I hope you're able to see the lunacy and derangement and use that as a way to investigate not only your own personal beliefs, but beliefs as a concept. These people protesting with masks involves a lot of beliefs about things, and why is it so many of them can be properly grouped into a category like "this is what a great deal of conservatives (a specific group) believe?"
Our times going to have the best picture in the history books. UHD 4k lunacy.
You sound like a human being capable of appealing to reason and experiencing empathy. Come join the "dark side", Jedi.