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SilentPanda

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Nov 6, 2017
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That's the response from epidemiologists after President Donald Trump said that the United States has "the best testing in the world" for COVID-19, and suggested that Europe's relatively low numbers are because its countries "don't test."

"On the specific question of whether we've done so much testing that that's why we have cases, it's quite the opposite," Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told NBC News on a video call late Sunday. "We're doing more testing now because we have so many cases that we can't keep up."


Trump repeated his long-standing frustration with the higher levels of testing in the U.S., saying, "In a way, we're creating trouble."

"Well, cases are up — many of those cases shouldn't even be cases," he said.

The U.S., which currently has some of the highest case numbers in the world, has had more than 141,000 deaths from the coronavirus, according to NBC News' tracker.

Trump also suggested that some other countries have had less severe outbreaks than the U.S. precisely because they "don't test."

"If you look at the ratio of number of tests we've done to the number of confirmed cases, it's not very good, it's not the best on earth by far," he said. "When you have more cases, you have to do more testing. It's not just that you find more cases with more tests."


The U.S. positivity rate currently stands at 9 percent, according to the CDC — comparable to rates in Pakistan, Iran, Kenya and Zimbabwe.



 

Jedi2016

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Oct 27, 2017
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He really does believe that if people don't have a positive test result, that they literally don't have it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Testing doesn't seem like an issue when it concerns him. Selfish, greedy fuck. I don't know why reporters don't press him on the fact that he gets tested every single day and the people around him.
 

mordecaii83

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Oct 28, 2017
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Is he insinuating that having people take the test gives them the disease and if they weren't tested they would never get it? Please tell me he's not actually saying that.
 

LakeEarth

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Oct 27, 2017
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The only trouble from mass testing is how bad it makes Trump look. Which tracks because everything he ever says or does it about him. Always him.
 

Burt

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Oct 28, 2017
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Has anyone straight up asked him "How does testing create cases?"?
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Deleted member 60295

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"Trump says something. Experts disagree."

At this point, I'm almost convinced this is an axiom as sound as any of Euclid's 7.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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He's saying we're counting the asymptomatic cases with more testing when maybe we shouldn't, I think, which is not as bad as saying testing makes cases but still misses the point of thorough testing.
 

plagiarize

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's saying we're counting the asymptomatic cases with more testing when maybe we shouldn't, I think, which is not as bad as saying testing makes cases but still misses the point of thorough testing.
Why shouldn't we count asymptomatic people with the virus? Every other country does.

Asymptomatic people pose the greatest risk for spreading the disease to boot.
 

Imperfected

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Nov 9, 2017
11,737
Okay, so then we don't have to worry about the budget anymore, right? We can spend as much as we want as long as we don't look at our balance?

And we don't have to worry about illegal immigrants as long as no one catches them, right?
 

TooFriendly

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Oct 30, 2017
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Don't test any White House staff or anyone they come into contact with then.

put your money where your mouth is you spoiled child.
 

MarioW

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shinken

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lol, didn't Chris Wallace during the interview showed a chart where testing is up, but confirmed cases has been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up. So Trumps "math and reasoning" is bullshit as always.
 

DragonKeeper

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Nov 14, 2017
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Mr. Trump, imagine a dark room full of monsters. If you bump into one it will eat you. You are offered a flashlight before entering the room. Do you take it?
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Why shouldn't we count asymptomatic people with the virus? Every other country does.

Asymptomatic people pose the greatest risk for spreading the disease to boot.
holy shit.

You have to count them because they're vectors for the disease, Idiot. Hes literally viewing this in can/cannot work terms only.
It's spreading because people are asymptomatic
"When maybe we shouldn't."

Why, exactly, shouldn't we count the most dangerous cases?

"which is not as bad"

And what makes this not as bad?
I was trying to interpret his statement, not justify it. Absolutely asymptomatic cases need to be counted, that's the whole point of mass testing. Trump clearly doesn't understand that and thinks we're only trying to count active, symptomatic cases, not that testing somehow creates cases as some people were proposing.
 

AlwaysSalty

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Nov 12, 2017
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I don't know how many times people have said in front of him that an asymptomatic case IS a case. Pretending like you aren't sick while being asymptomatic will get other people freaking killed. That's what's so infuriating about anti-maskers.