Quid Pro Quo.
Now let's see those wheels of justice turn.
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Trump ordered hold on military aid days before calling Ukrainian president, officials say
- Thread starter TheHunter
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Quid Pro Quo.
Now let's see those wheels of justice turn.
I haven't really been following this Ukraine story because I've been so busy and honestly I didn't think it would go anywhere. Can someone explain to me what's going on to someone who doesn't quite understand quid pro quo?
Edit: I think I get it now
Edit: I think I get it now
Trump blackmailed Ukraine by withholding aid funds to get them to open up an investigation into Joe Biden to help him win 2020.
literally "something for something"
the first "something" here was the $400M in military aid and the second "something" was dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden
You'd think this would be enough but I think Pelosi needs video and audio of a direct threat + blood oaths from enough republicans before she's for impeachment.
This is even bigger than Trump's Russia misdeeds.
Cue the angry anti-defeatist posts though, because I'm too exhausted to get my hopes up again that Democratic leadership will show even a modicum of competency or moral fortitude in handling this.
Cue the angry anti-defeatist posts though, because I'm too exhausted to get my hopes up again that Democratic leadership will show even a modicum of competency or moral fortitude in handling this.
This is what happens when he jettisons absolutely everyone even remotely qualified to do their job. It's so over the top stupid to try something like this.
Gotcha, thanks!! Didn't realize this was super duper illegal, lol.
Didn't he say something along the lines of you "you can't investigate my crimes 'till I'm out of office" a few days ago?
Or did I imagine that?
Or did I imagine that?
This seems even more relevant now: (May 7)
Obviously a whole lot of people need to be subpoenaed and/or held in inherent contempt when they deny them. Time to step on the ants.
Obviously a whole lot of people need to be subpoenaed and/or held in inherent contempt when they deny them. Time to step on the ants.
In the past I have not posted anything because I've doubted that it'll be the one.
Folks this is the one.
Impeach.
Folks this is the one.
Impeach.
I don't care that Moscow Mitch won't let anything come of this, impeach Trump and let the GOP vote on the record to excuse extortion. Do something, for fucks sake.
Pelosi's making a statement tomorrow that will probably finally get the ball rolling as far as unified messaging (probably not a full floor vote to open up the pit just yet, but who knows with how many Dem Reps have been coming out tonight)
like I know she's been stonewalling the shit out of things and have criticized her several times on this forum for it, but at minimum she's signaling she's gonna quit tripping shit up every five seconds
Narc'd on by the Ukraine president:
Multiple people in the WH are sources for the Mulvaney part of the story, the wheels are falling off.
Multiple people in the WH are sources for the Mulvaney part of the story, the wheels are falling off.
The longer he stays in the further he will push.
That should have been obvious since the day he got elected, which is why this should have begun the second the midterms were over. Having an impeachment brought up immediately would bring untold amounts of dirt that we haven't even glimpse of yet.
That should have been obvious since the day he got elected, which is why this should have begun the second the midterms were over. Having an impeachment brought up immediately would bring untold amounts of dirt that we haven't even glimpse of yet.
Time to do it. The optics might have been somewhat iffy regarding how the Mueller thing went down, and I can theoretically see Pelosi making a somewhat justified case that it would not have helped in the battle for the electorate.
This, however, is clear, unmuddied, and wildly flagrant, an easy justification to anyone listening. Now is the time to do it.
This, however, is clear, unmuddied, and wildly flagrant, an easy justification to anyone listening. Now is the time to do it.
Maybe this was the long game the whole time and Dems doing nothing really WAS 4D chess!
Show Trump that there are zero consequences to be worried about for colluding with foreign election meddling so that he boldly does it again and THEN we nab him! This is it folks!
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Show Trump that there are zero consequences to be worried about for colluding with foreign election meddling so that he boldly does it again and THEN we nab him! This is it folks!
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While the Senate will protect him to the end this is most likely past the point where it hurts the Democrats more to not impeach. Also, considering the public statements several members of congress have been making this past week I suspect this was seen coming.
I find it amazing that his explanation is literally the mob boss tactic of suggestions without actual demands. This is where we are and all that comes from it are more investigations that are stonewalled. I'm reminded of that species in Hitchhikers Guide that are mired by pure bureaucracy while those not beholden to those rules can just fuck off and do whatever they want. You want to trust the system but Rome is burning and all that's being done is finger wagging by the feckless.
