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Trump offered to pardon Julian Assange if he agreed to cover up the involvement of Russia in hacking emails from the DNC
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You act like the response from half the country wont be LOL #FAKENEWS
I don't see how we get out of this. Even if a Democrat wins this year, the machine will spin the other way and #fakenews becomes legit news.
Oh, I'm well aware that the laws don't matter. Ought implies can.
Why would they? Trump is such a huge nonsense-babbling distraction.
The only remedy to the President violating the law is impeachment. The courts won't touch that stuff because impeachment exists and courts don't like to do the job of Congress (separation of powers and all that).
"If the god emperor wants to cover up and collude with russshers crimes, then it's his god given right as an American president to do so. Fuck you."
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Yes, the deep state that wants to continue getting blank checks and funding from tax payers with little to no accountability... and huge tax breaks for said blank checks...
A sudden stroke or heart attack? I'd argue he's long overdue.
Trump has fired a lot of career government employees who have tried to just keep their heads down and do their jobs properly. If there is a "deep state" they're pretty lousy at the whole running the country like the illuminanti thing.
LOL at Greenwald, of course he believes that Assange is lying now:
Glenn has written himself into quite the corner, if Assange is telling the truth, Glenn has spent the last few years naysaying Russian interference and any wrongdoing suggested in the Mueller report. If Assange is lying, he's not the impartial arbiter of the truth that people like Glenn have painted him as, and he's willing to smear anyone in US politics when it is politically convenient for him to do so.
Of course. But he always blames Democrats, immigrants, other countries for anything bad in the US. He really does move the spotlight to other things than his own government. Although it is certainly a mess with a lot of rotation.
Wikileaks is publicly running with "Russia isn't behind the hacks, but the part about the president dangling the pardon is true."
The dudes in their mentions don't know how to process the information.
The dudes in their mentions don't know how to process the information.
I wonder if it's because he wanted his "win" to seem more legitimate, or because he's genuinely protecting Russia. Or both. Either way it's scary, crazy and completely outrageous and I don't expect it to move the needle at all.
The WSJ, the Hill, and the Washington times all reported on Rohrabaher's trip back in September 2017, with the WSJ even including the allegation that a pardon was dangled on behalf of the WH. The WH only admitted at the time that Dana had spoken to John Kelly. Assange's lawyers just today made the formal accusation in court, and claim they have receipts.
Trump and his surrogates are incredibly stupid so it is slightly possible that Assange is telling the truth but... I don't trust Assange any more than I trust the Trumps.
If there are receipts, let's see 'em. If they have proof, I'll believe the accusations.
Until then, Assange and wikileaks are absolutely unreliable sources of information. They'll say whatever will benefit the FSB, nothing more.
Also, you should never cite Washington Times "reporting". :p
I believe this makes for his 2nd Abuse of Power since being cleared. I can't think of the first one right now.
I have to watch my Trump media intake. I've seen a rapid acceleration of grey hairs since the impeachment. Lol
I have to watch my Trump media intake. I've seen a rapid acceleration of grey hairs since the impeachment. Lol
I don't think it's dirt. It's likely the several hundred million dollar loans funneled through Deutsche Bank to keep him afloat, plus the sustained money laundering of Russian money through his real estate holdings around the world. It's just money. It's also quid pro quos all the way down but I seriously don't think there's any nefarious dirt like the Steele dossier stuff.
And that's the OTHER reason he's smashing against the DoJ lately (other than stark raving NPD); it's another killshot to his livelihood. The sacrifices to keep his approvals over 35% will be again vicious.
Worked for Erdogan, which Bannon noticed to our detriment.
Like Individual-1, he's done been exposed; it's just he's not got as big a cult to protect him.
Worked for Erdogan, which Bannon noticed to our detriment.
Like Individual-1, he's done been exposed; it's just he's not got as big a cult to protect him.
Considering he's being sheltered by the Republicans and defended by a base that wouldn't care if he actually personally killed someone (and likely would cheer if it was a Democrat) you can pretty much expect Trump to believe he's untouchable and he can do whatever he wants at this point.
To be fair, for the moment, that really seems to be the case. Any of this stuff would have crucified a Democrat President, and would even have been trouble for a run-of-the-mill Republican President, but Trump has weathered an incredible amount of deal-breaking incidents with a Senate and Department of Justice that refuses to acknowledge rule of law anymore.
And once again I'm entering 'the world really, really sucks' depression. God I fucking hate this clown.
At the time, the spin from right wing outlets was that Assange had proof that Russia was not involved, and that Dana was there to negotiate a collection of the information. Assange and Wikileaks had already made the public claim that Russia was not their source.
The WSJ report ended up being closer to what Assange's people are claiming now.
If they have proof that Rohrabacher made the offer it might be in writing, video, or audio. Doesn't directly incriminate the president unless Dana testifies specifically that Trump told him to go and told him what to say. Even with physical evidence, it won't harm the president's standing in the GOP (as we've seen from impeachment hearings), if he just denies it and Dana ignores a subpoena.
Honestly, the House of Representatives should run through Impeachment again with a new set of articles. And this time, they should expressly say they are withholding passing the articles they draft to the Senate, and explicitly cite the precedent the GOP Senate set by acquitting the last set of Impeachment Articles.
Stuff like this makes it deeply, deeply frightening just how much of a slim thread rule of law in the USA seems to be hanging on the election this year. It really feels like the USA may be leaning over a cliff, pinwheeling arms with a 50/50 chance of pulling back or falling into the abyss.
as if that's ever happening in fucking UTAH
and at least he voted to impeach him
but i get what you're going for.
That story doesn't make much sense to me, in that I'm not even sure why the pardon was even necessary. Assange has been lying his ass off since 2016 about who exactly hacked the DNC emails and sent them to Wikileaks, or who his contacts in America are/were, so I'm not sure what else Trump or Rohrabacher could even want. If he had any evidence showing Russia's "innocence" he would've produced it at the very latest in early 2017 after the ODNI report. Maybe the people in this administration are so stupid they didn't realize that? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wish that everyone around Trump and his associates weren't such deceitful pieces of shit. There's so many lies involved with everything Trump does, it's hard to tell which ones are even partially true, if any.
Edit: Of course it should be investigated, and I hope Assange or his lawyers brings forth evidence (LMAO), because I don't believe a single fucking word out of the scumbag's mouth on anything.
I wish that everyone around Trump and his associates weren't such deceitful pieces of shit. There's so many lies involved with everything Trump does, it's hard to tell which ones are even partially true, if any.
Edit: Of course it should be investigated, and I hope Assange or his lawyers brings forth evidence (LMAO), because I don't believe a single fucking word out of the scumbag's mouth on anything.
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Man will do crazy things with a threat of extradition to the US, be blamed for Trumps issues , thrown in prison and be "Epsteined"
I'm just hoping there is hard written or recorded evidence
I just remember Assange was once pretty popular with the general public, even appearing on Colbert, but i do get why people started to think he was a russian shill after 2016.
Assange flipping on Trump to save his ass vs Assange making shit up to save his ass doesn't make him a hero in either scenario.
We know that the meeting was real, the devil is in the details.
Even if the Democrat candidate wins the election, I don't think we will have avoided falling into the abyss. The underlying cause of all of this will remain unchanged: the complete polarization of the USA's politics.
Until that is dealt with, this country will continue to remain teetering on the edge of a fall into total authoritarianism.
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