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Fisty

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,366
Imagine if Obama forced the DNC to spend $100k on Malia's childhood scribblings

Just imagine
 

Illusion

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,407
Never realized it took so few sales to make the top of NYT's bestsellers list. It speaks volumes about the book industry.
This is what I keep thinking.

Creating a children's book and buying copies in bulk to fake being a top seller than getting a movie deal out of it sounds like a good plan for any rich person looking to make money.
 

Kill3r7

Member
Oct 25, 2017
24,634
This is what I keep thinking.

Creating a children's book and buying copies in bulk to fake being a top seller than getting a movie deal out of it sounds like a good plan for any rich person looking to make money.

I mean a relatively wealthy person can write an autobiography and have it top the charts for months.
 

Extra Sauce

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,946
RNC publically lies.

journalist provides undeniable evidence RNC lied.

RNC doubles down.

such a perfect representation of the entire party right there.
 

AndreGX

GameXplain
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
1,815
San Francisco
What's the MSRP? $20? That's only 5000 books if so, 10,000 if the price is half. Does it really take that few to reach the top of the best selling list? (Plus whatever it organically sold, of course)
 

Protein

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,034
*Uses own money to pay for failure book*

"SEE? Those libs are so fucking owned. Damn, so owned."
 

Brakke

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,798
It's not "only" -- but the book sold ~115,000 copies according to NPD BookScan, which tracks physical US book sales. Books-A-Million is charging $23.09 for a hardcover copy, meaning the RNC bought roughly 4100 copies; a little less than half the number needed to hit the bestseller list in the NYT, and literally enough on its own to hit the WSJ's bestsellers, based on my own quick dirty googling.

It's a significant purchase. It's also paid for with donor money. It's shitty either way.

If I'm following your numbers right, the RNC buy represents 4/115 or 3.5% of sales? So, maybe they were trying to guarantee a Best Seller, but it probably would've gotten there on it's own?

Which, yeah, I agree the RNC buy is a shitty grift. I said that. But it isn't the "only" reason the book hit the list.
 

abellwillring

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,962
Austin, TX
What's the MSRP? $20? That's only 5000 books if so, 10,000 if the price is half. Does it really take that few to reach the top of the best selling list? (Plus whatever it organically sold, of course)
I doubt it can get you to #1 outright if that's all you sold, but it can make a difference. My guess is that there were more big bulk orders that weren't as easily tracked as this one though. I know Shea Serrano had around 15k preorders of his last book that debuted high in the charts if not number 1 and I suspect that represented a significant chunk of his first week of sales.

Okay, it seems like most places don't necessarily share the sales numbers when doing the charts (or get good info on what an average #1 sells in the first week) but I just found this page which actually does list numbers: https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/nielsen/HardcoverNonfiction.html

It looks like right now at least it'd take around 10k sold in a week to get into the top 10. Jr sold 70,730 in the first week and 2nd (Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers: The Texas Victory That Changed American History, ugh this is from Kilmeade.. the worst) sold 32,683. So the RNC order didn't push him from 2 to 1 or anything like that, but it presumably was done to help solidify it. It's also a way to use donor money to enrich the Trumps themselves. That's what they're more interested in doing I'm sure.
 

LuigiMario

Member
Oct 28, 2017
3,941
When your parents spend $150 on a shitty school fundraiser so you can win a remote controlled car worth $20.
 

Durden

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
12,513
One of the more low-key corrupt things about this admin that I can't believe continues to be so low-key is how much they're profiting off of themselves. It's fucking insane, illegal as fuck, and everyone for some reason seemed to just stop giving a shit.

Like regardless of this story which is even more damning, how the fuck is it appropriate in any way shape or form for the CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TO USE HIS TWITTER TO ADVERTISE HIS SON'S BOOK?!?!?!? God FUCK this shit. The bar has been lowered so fucking low.
 
Oct 28, 2017
6,300
With any Trump it is always about how things appear rather than what they actually are. He thinks you are stupid and won't fact check.
 

BAD

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,569
USA
Sorry but I'm lost - is the title seriously saying this book hit #1 based on just $100,000 sold? That seems like a rather small amount to top the bestsellers
 

Hrodulf

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,348
So their excuse is that they're buying them to sell to supporters of the Republican party? How does that make any sense? Why wouldn't they just buy the book without the RNC middleman if they wanted it? It's sad that this level of incompetence and stupidity has such a huge influence over the country.
 

LakeEarth

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,200
Ontario
Regardless of its overall impact on the list, that's RNC donations going directly into the pockets of the Trump family.

Huh, funny how that keeps happening. Almost seems like a pattern.
 

Landy828

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,468
Clemson, SC
If I'm following your numbers right, the RNC buy represents 4/115 or 3.5% of sales? So, maybe they were trying to guarantee a Best Seller, but it probably would've gotten there on it's own?

Which, yeah, I agree the RNC buy is a shitty grift. I said that. But it isn't the "only" reason the book hit the list.

Wouldn't surprise me if there were other bulk buys 🤣
 

Wrestleman

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,305
Virginia
If I'm following your numbers right, the RNC buy represents 4/115 or 3.5% of sales? So, maybe they were trying to guarantee a Best Seller, but it probably would've gotten there on it's own?

Which, yeah, I agree the RNC buy is a shitty grift. I said that. But it isn't the "only" reason the book hit the list.

You're following right, but misinterpreted my point. I opened with the fact it's not the only reason, but my point is that if the book bombed naturally, their purchase *would* have been significant enough to likely land it on the list or just outside it. It was obviously not the only reason it did, but was significant insurance that it would.
 

RoaminRonin

Member
Nov 6, 2017
5,786
What's even more hilarious is he constantly criticize Hunter Biden. The Trump family really are born without a sense to feel shame and embarrassment.
 

Brakke

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,798
You're following right, but misinterpreted my point. I opened with the fact it's not the only reason, but my point is that if the book bombed naturally, their purchase *would* have been significant enough to likely land it on the list or just outside it. It was obviously not the only reason it did, but was significant insurance that it would.

Yeah, makes sense to me. "Insurance" seems like a good way to think about it.

Thanks for reporting out the context NYT skipped. đź‘Ť
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,616
Remember Fred Trump would have people lose on purpose in casinos owned by Donald, so it's a family thing
 

night814

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 29, 2017
15,073
Pennsylvania
What's the MSRP? $20? That's only 5000 books if so, 10,000 if the price is half. Does it really take that few to reach the top of the best selling list? (Plus whatever it organically sold, of course)
It's the equivalent of being the number one album sold right now, you need a fraction of what was needed 20-30 years ago to make it to the top.
 

adamsappel

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,503
Writers and publishers have done this for their own books. I don't think number of books sold even matters when the book is first released, it's how fast it's selling that lands you on the Best Seller list.
 

Figgles

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
2,568
That's not really that many books. It must not take much to hit the nyt bestseller list.
 

JaseC64

Enlightened
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
11,008
Strong Island NY
Why dont Dems print a large posted 'GOP style' and put a fact RNC bulk bought this shit book to pad sales next time there is a hearing or committee meeting? You know just so everyone knows?

Cmon Dems you can join in the sleaze fest.
 

Rellodex

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,188
At least this know nothing beta gonna get laughed out of the room by both sides as soon as his dad is out of the picture.
 

Wraith

Member
Jun 28, 2018
8,892



@nickconfessore 14hr

NEW: At least nine Republican Party committees, candidates, or groups with ties to President Trump are selling or promoting a new book by his son, Donald Trump, Jr., records show. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-book.html

Breadth of the effort is striking for Trump Jr., a noncandidate who has defended himself a "private citizen." And underscores cross-pollination between the Trump family's political ambitions, its business ventures and the party President Trump leads. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/28/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-book.html

Here's a pic I was sent of boxes of "Triggered" sitting in the offices of Turning Point USA, a student group with close Trumpworld ties.