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Trump: General Jim Mattis will be retiring at the end of February (UP: resignation letter posted)
- Thread starter GK86
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So what geopolitical fuckups should we expect to be at greater risk of happening now that Mattis is out? Pulling troops out of Afghanistan and South Korea seem more likely, as well as Bolton beating the drum for "regime change" in Iran are the biggest things that come to mind for me.
mattis was one of ...
Mattis is the only Adult there. We already know trump isn't listening to anyone besides his lapdogs. However, if bolton had his ear, we wouldn't be leaving Syria.
Oh shit, unless we're going to invade Iran some how. I think its just bad in general when the inmates are left the keys. This is what this is. His letter is very clear about what he agrees with, and how Trump needs someone to align with his views. Shit is pretty damning.
It does matter. Remember what happened after the Iraq war? ISIS formed...
Sure, anything is possible if they could get something truly incredible out of a "grand deal" like the removal of all US forces/bases in Europe or even the jackpot of the US pulling out of NATO.
I'm hoping he's stepping down because he knows something is coming.
I'm not sure how to take this resignation.
You do have to wonder when (or if) there is a point where the Republicans say "Enough" and get rid of him. He's actually endangering lives now and things are only going to get worse.
What exactly do you suggest we protest over? That we don't like that Mattis leaving the position?
So what's the fucking plan then? You've been there for seventeen years, and the Taliban is growing in strength, you're sustaining more and more attacks and the civilians are suffering for it. The battle is lost.
Get. Out.
Might be a good time to remind people that Mattis had to remind Trump when he tried to withdraw all our troops from South Korea that it would have signaled to NK that we were about to bomb them and they might try to nuke us in desperation in response.
Also that Mattis was one of the two people to stop Trump from being able to launch a nuke. And that him and McMaster literally discussed with each other what they would do if Trump tried to order one, like having to tackle him or something. So we could at least rely on him to do that if necessary.
What's the next guy gonna do
Also that Mattis was one of the two people to stop Trump from being able to launch a nuke. And that him and McMaster literally discussed with each other what they would do if Trump tried to order one, like having to tackle him or something. So we could at least rely on him to do that if necessary.
What's the next guy gonna do
Every educated person on the matter, internationally, disagrees with you. We aren't rushing out of South Korea, or any of our NATO bases world-fucking-wide. Its asinine to establish length as a determining factor of national defense/security. We do these things to prevent China/Russia/Iran from strengthening and producing terror around the world.
Thats the CON. Because we let SA/Who blew up our towers to get off scott free. But having an ordered planned withdrawl at the bare minimum makes sense. Talking to experts, makes sense. Pulling out, and leaving our allies fucked over isn't going to be too productive when we have to go back next season, is it? When you need the trust of the native population to help you.
Given the statement Mattis put out, I think it's pretty clear the Syria withdrawal was the last straw.
Unless there was an election last week I was unaware of that gave Dems 20 senate seats then no, there is no impeachment coming. People need to stop getting their hopes up on this. The republican party is complicit and will never act against trump. Trump either resigns, or is defeated in 2020.
I don't totally buy this idea, personally. I think there is a breaking point where the GOP turns on him in order to save face.
As much as I hate army generals in general, they have an absurd amount of dedication to their country. He would not willingly put our country at risk. In fact, he probably would have forced Trump to fire him(which probably would have happened eventually).
The way this letter is written, it screams to me getting away from the administration ASAP, because something is going to happen. The fact that it goes with Trump's wishes is purely coincidental I think.
We are in the endgame now.
Until it harms white Americans, they don't and won't give a fuck.
Remember what exactly? That the President can fire parts of his cabinet? What are you saying here?
Considering how much of a big disaster a War with Iran would be, and how the Russians have provided arms for the Iranians....fuck yes they would
Well first off I don't think U.S bases in eastern Asia and Europe are in actual hostile territory and occupying sovereign countries?
Your own goddamn actions created ISIS, nobody else. And now the world is busy cleaning up your shit.
Maybe if you didn't drop a hundred thousand bombs a year on people they wouldn't hate you as much.
They can't. The base is a cult that follows trump. To turn on trump means abandoning their base, and they will never do that.
That all the shit that's been pushed about bipartisan support and needing a unified congress has been nonsense. Trump is doing whatever he fucking wants and he's getting away with it.
If Mattis was arguing to stay in Syria indefinitely after ISIS' defeat to counter Iranian influence and was against pulling out of Afghanistan then I would argue this was a good move. I think we should be cognizant that America has been playing the role of both fire starter and firefighter in the Middle East and the results have been disastrous.
Any type of war where Russia is providing weapons and troops to someone is a boon for their economy. Its the sole reason why I would see them going to any means necessary to destroy americas influence and world stature and bring them into a conflict where Russia will profit greatly
No one else in the Trump Administration is worth half a damn so who cares they can all go now.
