Trump admin wants to monitor Facebook/Twitter posts of people on disability to find evidence of fraud

[Fluffhead14]

I legitimately cannot comprehend how anyone would think going after disability fraud should be a priority over wealth redistribution. How can this even be supported.

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well, it's not like it's impossible to do both things at once, it's just that this likely won't be worth it. it's likely to cost more than any potential savings gained. it just perpetuates the myth that the disadvantaged are the enemy. what percentage of those that actually get on disability, which is notoriously difficult to get, are actively defrauding the government?

 

[aerie]

Yes, let's make life even more difficult for those that need support, what a wonderful way to treat other humans. People on disability still deserve basic comforts and niceties.

 

[ShyMel]

This would be such a huge waste of time and resources.

 

[Deleted member 2802]

Then deal with that. How does going through social media accounts and taking a post or image out of context fix that?

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I didn't say going after social media was the right thing to do.
I'm saying your line of leave it to "medical examination" is a source for disability insurance scams.

 

[aerozombie]

I'm surprised all of things Obama was defending with the NSA and such didn't have the capability already.

Anyways, I am all for audits of services rendered by a public organization when the public is the beneficiary, it just needs to be done in an ethical manner. If individual auditors look up accounts and such to find evidence: sure, if they are using bots to scrap through the internet then distinct processes need to be made and it should only apply to publicly accessible information

 

[Cotton McKnight]

Billionaires hiding money in offshore accounts, but yes, surely this is the real issue

Fucking tool this guy is

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I'm pretty sure he believes he is going to get a bonus if he finds more money in the budget (that's not how it works).

 

[bane833]

Billionaires hiding money in offshore accounts, but yes, surely this is the real issue

Fucking tool this guy is

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Fraud is only a problem when poor people do it.

 

[Deleted member 426]

This is already common place in the private sector, i'd be surprised if this wasn't being done by many governments already.

 

[Bjones]

It's an unwinnable effort like welfare.

Do you make it harder for that one person who truly needs because say 50 ( just making a point .. not real statistic ) others are taken advantage?

The only answer at the moment is no .. you can't. It's shitty that people will so effortlessly and without remorse take advantage of such needed programs but that shouldn't hinder those who really need help.

 

[Deleted member 36543]

It's only okay with he does it.

 

[Waddle Dee]

They aren't doing this already? Because it sure feels like it at times for disabled people.

The GOP doesn't even let the Social Security Administration hire enough people to answer the phones. But to kick people off benefits, they'll do anything.

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It's ridiculous. You straight-up can't contact Social Security for basically anything since you either need to wait on the phone at 9 in the morning, which is when most of us are working. They try making it as hard as possible for disabled people to make a living.

It would finally prove that Trump is mentally disabled

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Please don't use mental disabilities as an insult.

 

[cakely]

Please don't use mental disabilities as an insult.

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I'm gonna be totally pedantic here.

Take the phrase:

"It would finally prove that Trump is X" where X is any adjective.

X is not necessarily an insult unless you find X insulting without any additional context.

 

[Torpedo Vegas]

The disabled and their scam to not make enough to make ends meet.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

I didn't say going after social media was the right thing to do.
I'm saying your line of leave it to "medical examination" is a source for disability insurance scams.

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You say that like every IME is a scam. They're not. As if the potential for abuse invalidates its legitimate use. It doesn't.

 

[Pet]

Can they detect a lack of bone spurs?

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My first question.

 

[sph3re]

I'm pretty sure he believes he is going to get a bonus if he finds more money in the budget (that's not how it works).

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...That's laughably possible. Good lord, this is the word we live in, lmao

Fraud is only a problem when poor people do it.

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[Cryptosporidium]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/us/politics/social-security-disability-trump-facebook.html



If anyone hasn't seen it yet, I recommend watching Ken Loach's film "I, Daniel Blake." It's an excellent depiction of how modern neoliberal government will use every power at their disposal to prevent any type of disability payments from going out and how they treat those who do manage to get them as nothing more than common criminals. It takes place in the UK but it's just as applicable to the United States.

Unfortunately this will become the norm more frequently. For example, I could see them use social media posts against people on unemployment as evidence they aren't devoting enough time to looking for a new job.

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I dont know if this policy would be considered neoliberalism, neoliberalism is about deregulating from the current welfare state. This is more just regular ass despotism

In the hands of a better country and leader this could be good policy but Im sure this will be somehow abused

 

[Wag]

See- if you're on Facebook it's proof you're committing fraud. The poors and disabled shouldn't be able to afford internet access.

The GOP is fine with this logic until it effects them directly.

 

[Deleted member 9971]

When you have benefits "no fun allowed"
Tbh i am personally on benefits cuz of my mental issues and when i did fun stuff and enjoyed life it never bited me in the ass.

Never had my benefits company call me and be like squiddo you had to much fun we saw on facebook and ah we see you got a new tattoo lets cancel your benefits.

Besides i have a jobcoach who helps me find a proper part time job for me. So its not like ima never work forever.

Tbh people on benefits should be able to enjoy their life if they can aswell the oh they can have fun but dont work view is the most ridiculous thing ever.

Work or full time work is not made or be able to do for everyone. These people deserve to have fun moments in their live aswell and are free to spend their benefits how they see fit after payin their bills.

Just imagine if you are on benefits have a nice evening post it on facebook the next week you get a phone call we are cutting down or canceling your benefits if you can go have fun you can go work easily.

Besides getting through the test to get it is pretty hard lots of people get denied even people who literally legit deserve it. Sometimes you have to be lucky with the doctor they use to check your medical history and psych cuz sadly some are a bit easier than others. But its almost impossible to fraud unless your gyropractor or hospital doctor frauds your medical papers.

They are quite strict.