You realize this is the first game he's actually directed since No More Heroes 1 right?
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Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes - Review Thread
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I was like "I should read the spoiler, I wonder if it's.... Yep that's it". I don't see the "wow" factor people are talking about but I hope those unspoiled enjoy it.
The actual game looks like a sale for me, love the style of it but the gameplay looks terrible.
The actual game looks like a sale for me, love the style of it but the gameplay looks terrible.
No, what I'm saying is that NMH2 lack what made the first a classic loved by a niche (same happened for Killer7).
NMH2 is more polished and have some very good boss but it misses the satirical message of the original.
IMO NMH1 is a masterpiece because the whole game was designed around its meta narrative.
Scullion's review was positive though. He said he absolutely loved it, but finds it hard to recommend.
NMH2 is a different beast from NMH and it isn't liked for the same reason as NMH1.
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's not a cult classic, there's stuffs to love about the game too.
It doesn't stand up to the standard of NMH or Killer7 but that's about it.
Solid scores in my opinion, specially if you consider :
- It's a Suda game.
- It's a smaller scope game compared to previous entries wich would lead to inevitable comparisons/frustrations.
In the end I just hope it successed enough to justify a true sucessor to the main NMH series!
- It's a Suda game.
- It's a smaller scope game compared to previous entries wich would lead to inevitable comparisons/frustrations.
In the end I just hope it successed enough to justify a true sucessor to the main NMH series!
Here's my review for it from TheSixthAxis!
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2019/01/16/travis-strikes-again-no-more-heroes-review/
https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2019/01/16/travis-strikes-again-no-more-heroes-review/
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Did I say anything about his position on projects he's known to have worked for? I don't think I did. Besides that, he's certainly listed as executive or creative director in other games after NMH 1, including its sequel (search for it on Gamasutra, Imdb, Wikipedia, etc). He's been involved in every game released within his company. If only to not seem so negative, I'll give him credit for producing Sine Mora and co-directing FF: Mask of the Lunar Eclipse.
Im sorry but those are not good scores for Suda's return to directing. Especially doesnt seem worth it for a 30 dollar game either.
Even mega man 11 felt a bit expensive for 30 bucks but it was at least a high quality product. The least Marvelous could do for us now is help port NMH1 and 2 over and see after those games if 3 is worth funding.
Even mega man 11 felt a bit expensive for 30 bucks but it was at least a high quality product. The least Marvelous could do for us now is help port NMH1 and 2 over and see after those games if 3 is worth funding.
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Just saying. The only Grasshopper games with cult status and that are held in high regard are the ones he both wrote and directed.
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's just gonna come down to how much you like NMH and Travis. If you love them, I don't see how this game isn't gonna be worth it. If you don't, this probably won't change that. If you haven't played NMH, maybe proceed with some caution. But you could end up loving it. A lot of what makes it great is the sum of it's parts, rather than a specific thing.
for those who didn't look on mc, here's my review at Ars: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019...h-may-already-have-its-weirdest-game-of-2019/
Yeah, I knew when it was top down/side scrolling that it wouldn't be for me. I just wanted more NMH.
There are also games where it clicks and you're like "oh...thats how this works, yeah this sucks!"
I love Suda games. I don't think he saves games because I love his perspective. Art is not about the individual pieces, it's about how it works together. Suda's games connect for me. So it's not something I can overstate. It's just how his work hits me.
I wouldn't call NMH2 safe especially when half the fans of 1 seem to dislike it. I don't think the style to the main story was an expected take after what he did with the first.
Also Suda's voice is apparent in all those games. His direction matters, and his why people are excited for TSA, but he has a clear strong voice that comes through all his projects, whether directing or not.
Man this game is really getting polarizing reviews. I'm glad this game is getting a ton of 8s at least.
That would be like crediting Steven Spielberg for the Transformers movies.
What other game is 70/74 on Metacritic? killer7.
The value of grades and percentages as a means of counting the value of art is very arguable.
The value of grades and percentages as a means of counting the value of art is very arguable.
That sounds like you're describing NMH2 minigames....
Compared to NMH1 it felt fairly safe, the combat was a refinement of NMH and the minigames were more gamey to make them more enticing.
The story is full Suda so of course it's ballz2theWalls crazy.
I feel like the game he directs are far more experimental and trying to make some kind of statement through gameplay that is not so readily apparent in games he doesn't direct.
Kinda like the difference between a Bay directed movie and a movie Bay produces but does not direct.
Of course it may seem like total hogwash nonsense to someone else (for me it IS for the example I've given with Michael Bay btw).
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His games are an acquired taste. They're not for everyone and that's okay :)
I played Killer 7, it's alright. Of the Suda51 stuff I've played, probably the only one I thought had something. Although I tried to play it again recently and couldn't get past the awful shooting controls. The rest can't be saved by his quirky, weirdo style. Shadows of the Damned is one of the worst games I bought on the PS3.
2 of my fav games of that gen are Killer7 and Romancing Saga Minstrel Song
Critics fucking hated both games, ratings are about as important as you make them to be.
If you were waiting for reviews to tell you whether you should buy a Suda51 game or not... You were probably never going to buy it :P
Shadows of the Damned wasn't by him either.
(That said, I did enjoy it.)
In terms of gameplay you are right. But you don't play Suda games for it's gameplay but for it's story.
And that's still something not for everyone, but he's an unique author, that's for sure
Are you sure this isn't just a case of people giving him too much credit for anything he's attached to. Because people do that A LOT with names they like.
Well, that's an opinion as I might have mine. Personally, I remember seeing lots of love (or at least positive discussion) for Shadows of the Damned and Sine Mora in the old forum. He did co-write Shadows, yet if we were restrictive about his functions, he was only executive director... In the end, I think he's one of those "auteurs" who trespass an specific role. When he's somehow involved, people come to expect certain qualities. I believe they're right in this case, as he's influenced all those projects, even if he shared or delegated some responsibilities. But that's possibly a different conversation, for another topic.
What I said is that he's worked (in a position or other) at many games. Some of them reviewed better, while others got a cold shoulder. So perhaps it's only me, but I don't share the narrative that Suda/GH games get this treatment regardless of their execution. The games I mentioned a few pages back, they all have merits, yet they also had big problems and reviewers took notice. Who knows if any of them becomes a new classic in a few years? Nothing's written in that regard.