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Toy Story 4 Official Trailer
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I expect it to be similar to TS3 in that it will be bitter sweet. It was nice that the toys were being handed off to be played with by a new owner but sad to see Andy go, that kind of a thing.
Wait for Toy Story 5. Would be great to see that commentary on parenting or lack thereof with electronic devices. I thought they did a good job with Wall-E in regards to the obesity epidemic./
So we get another retread of the same "I want a new life oh wait never mind, my old life was just fine" story? That's a shame. I would have liked to see more of the human side that they've gotten away from more and more with each movie. Heck, they could have brought back Sid as somebody who blames toys for his mental breakdown.
Eh, Forky is bit of a interesting character, but I am not feeling the fair setting and Bo Peep. So yeah, not excited that much.
We don't know that that same story is gonna end the same way this time, though. The Hanks quote kind of makes it sound like Woody might not go back this time, and the theme seems to be having a greater purpose outside of just being someone's toy.
Also they already brought back Sid in TS3 :p
Wait how did they bring him back in TS3? I don't remember that at all.
Also, yeah, I think there's a non-zero chance that this movie writes Woody out of any potential sequels.
Also, yeah, I think there's a non-zero chance that this movie writes Woody out of any potential sequels.
Honestly, Toy Story should probably end if/when Woody leaves the group. I don't think the films work without the Woody/Buzz dynamic, and I would hope Pixar knows that too.
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Do we even know if it's supposed to be the same Bo? I mean there's 50 different Spiderman figures but they're all Spiderman.
Isn't this just Toy Story 1+2 again?
Anyway looks alright but unfortunately it didn't really grab me like other recent trailers.
I'll say Forkey will be interesting depending on what they do with his character.
Anyway looks alright but unfortunately it didn't really grab me like other recent trailers.
I'll say Forkey will be interesting depending on what they do with his character.
Tom Hanks said it made him cry and that it will be a moment in history.
So it's emotionally impactful whether that means sad or happy.
Oh God, what is wrong with me? I... I just don't care about this movie.
I don't hate it. I actually like the idea of Bo Peep possibly taking a darker route. But for some reason the movie just does nothing for me. I might get my gf's 3 year old into the older movies and take her to see 4, but I just felt nothing at all watching this trailer. No nostalgia, no sort of ire. Just a "meh" with a hint of "ugh".
I don't hate it. I actually like the idea of Bo Peep possibly taking a darker route. But for some reason the movie just does nothing for me. I might get my gf's 3 year old into the older movies and take her to see 4, but I just felt nothing at all watching this trailer. No nostalgia, no sort of ire. Just a "meh" with a hint of "ugh".
Yeah if they make more Toy Story movies without Woody/with an incomplete gang, I'd prefer they just focus on an entirely different group of toys.
That's like literally the entire point of the movie and her story in the movie
Why do you need to go through a bunch of hoops to get other people into the franchise to go see it? Either don't if you don't want to, or do if you do? Or do you not like seeing movies alone? (not anything wrong with that and not judging you if you are or aren't)
I guess this movie is finally going to tackle the Toy Story question I've been asking for ages: when is the exact moment a toy gets a soul? Are they alive in the store? Is a toy endowed with a soul the moment a child first touches them and makes a connection? Does EVERY toy of the same type start with the exact same "soul" and then develop further via their experiences with humans?
The existential questions drawn by the idea that some toys are 'active' and others are inert is honestly something I've been wondering since I was a little kid.
The existential questions drawn by the idea that some toys are 'active' and others are inert is honestly something I've been wondering since I was a little kid.
I never noticed that. It's kind of a weird cameo but oh well.
Also, yeah, I think there's a non-zero chance that this movie writes Woody out of any potential sequels.
It's the first of the promo material that's really grabbed me. I'd be surprised if it's as good as TS3 but I'm still looking forward to it.
the song near the end? no, it's 'god only knows' by the beach boys. check out 'pet sounds', the album it's from and 'smile' by brian wilson (basically the driving force behind 'pet sounds') if you like that song.
"Forky is the most important toy in the world right now to Bonnie! We have to make sure nothing happens to him!"
Give me a break, this sounds incredibly stupid.
And then there's Tim 'compares himself to Anne Frank' Allen with his stink on the movie.
Not feeling the trailer at all and the heavily retreaded premise, should have just stopped with 3.
Give me a break, this sounds incredibly stupid.
And then there's Tim 'compares himself to Anne Frank' Allen with his stink on the movie.
Not feeling the trailer at all and the heavily retreaded premise, should have just stopped with 3.
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I was just talking about this with some of the staff and figured I would bring it up here. I've been thinking about this trailer a lot.
The emotional poignancy and weight throughout the series has always been predicated on the idea of a universal purpose and sense of belonging for toys.The pathos in every movie surrounds a toy just wanting to connect with and be played with by a child. Their entire purpose is to be owned and singularly beloved. This characterizes everything that a toy wants and what motivates them. Through this frame of reference we have had three very moving stories about characters finding meaning and satisfaction through ownership.
This trailer throws all of that in to question. Toy Story 4 seems to ask "what if toys didn't care about that and were happier without it?" This is a bold and daring direction to take the series but it also jeopardizes everything that makes the original movies work so well. This shift threatens to undermine all of the Toy Story movies and render them, essentially, thematically unwatchable.
If ownership and play are no longer universally valuable to the existential perspective of a toy, then Toy Story 1-3 are heavily decontextualized. It means that everything the cast has endured until now was against their best interests. It means they have been living and feeling and pining within restrictive and oppressive confines detrimental to their self-actualization. Rewatching the first three movies would come with the burden of knowing everything the characters want and believe in them is ultimately wrong.
So I really have no idea what to expect from this movie. What is the final journey for a toy? For the first three movies to work, we as an audience must vicariously value the comfort of ownership the way a toy does. We have to relate to the world the way they do or else nothing the toys want and strive for would make sense. If that changes, this fundamentally changes the drama of the first three movies, and that's a lot for me to think about.
It seems unrealistic to think this movie will "free Woody" to live outside normal toy institutions. This would frame all the toys who stay behind as some sort of prisoners. They could frame it as some sort of choice - where some toys prefer to be free and other prefer to be servants - but I don't know if I can suspend my disbelief that both of these options would be equally valid and appealing. The other option is that the movie dismantles Bo-Peep's worldview, which seems regressive in its own right, and I don't think the movie will be anti-liberation.
It's just a lot to think about. This is probably the most I've thought about a movie trailer ever. If this movie is good then great. But if this movie is bad it's going to change the way the entire series works.
The emotional poignancy and weight throughout the series has always been predicated on the idea of a universal purpose and sense of belonging for toys.The pathos in every movie surrounds a toy just wanting to connect with and be played with by a child. Their entire purpose is to be owned and singularly beloved. This characterizes everything that a toy wants and what motivates them. Through this frame of reference we have had three very moving stories about characters finding meaning and satisfaction through ownership.
This trailer throws all of that in to question. Toy Story 4 seems to ask "what if toys didn't care about that and were happier without it?" This is a bold and daring direction to take the series but it also jeopardizes everything that makes the original movies work so well. This shift threatens to undermine all of the Toy Story movies and render them, essentially, thematically unwatchable.
If ownership and play are no longer universally valuable to the existential perspective of a toy, then Toy Story 1-3 are heavily decontextualized. It means that everything the cast has endured until now was against their best interests. It means they have been living and feeling and pining within restrictive and oppressive confines detrimental to their self-actualization. Rewatching the first three movies would come with the burden of knowing everything the characters want and believe in them is ultimately wrong.
So I really have no idea what to expect from this movie. What is the final journey for a toy? For the first three movies to work, we as an audience must vicariously value the comfort of ownership the way a toy does. We have to relate to the world the way they do or else nothing the toys want and strive for would make sense. If that changes, this fundamentally changes the drama of the first three movies, and that's a lot for me to think about.
It seems unrealistic to think this movie will "free Woody" to live outside normal toy institutions. This would frame all the toys who stay behind as some sort of prisoners. They could frame it as some sort of choice - where some toys prefer to be free and other prefer to be servants - but I don't know if I can suspend my disbelief that both of these options would be equally valid and appealing. The other option is that the movie dismantles Bo-Peep's worldview, which seems regressive in its own right, and I don't think the movie will be anti-liberation.
It's just a lot to think about. This is probably the most I've thought about a movie trailer ever. If this movie is good then great. But if this movie is bad it's going to change the way the entire series works.
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I think that once a toy is "built" it gains sentience? Because the Buzz Lightyears in Al's Toy Barn are alive in their packages (hyper sleep) when Buzz wakes them up, specifically the one wearing the belt he tries to steal. Also all the Barbies and Kens are having a grand old time partying down and they're all, as far as we know, new toys that hadn't been owned or played with.
I thought this was going to be a classic joke post and it would be some cheezy song but nope, you are correct sir
Like, seriously, I'm sure the people at Pixar just think it'll be a "fun" kind of horror that people will love, and I'm sure some will feel that way, but as someone who is terrified of certain kinds of puppets/dummies, I sure as shit ain't seeing the movie in theaters now. The fact Pixar's movies have been on a heavy decline for a decade now just further convinces me not to bother with this movie.
I already was not the biggest fan of Woody's look for the Round Up Woody tv show, and the baby doll in Toy Story 3, but those dummies are straight "nope" material for me. I'm a wuss, lol.
While Pixar is known for not-so-great trailers and I did feel that 3 was the perfect ending for the series, I'm still there Day 1. Of all their properties, I don't see them making another Toy Story if they didn't feel like they could bring something worthwhile out of it. The animation here is incredible and I'm certain it'll have the same emotional hit all the others have had for me. Can't wait.
Oh no they don't do it for funsies they intentionally make them frightening. The director of Toy Story 3 is a *massive* fan of The Shining, for example, and for Cars 2 they wrote the script as if it were a legit spy movie and not one for kids (which is why there's on-screen torture and murder throughout it). There's not a friggin' chance they put that goddamn cymbal monkey in TS3 thinking it was just a fun silly scare lmao that son of a bitch is legitimately terrifying
Edit: There seems to be a lot of misconceptions on this board about exactly how and why Pixar make the movie choices they do lol
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