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Tourists face up to six years in jail over stolen beach sand.
- Thread starter Sqrt
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No no no, you got it all wrong. They are removing the sand to create more space for the sea.
"Up to 6 years" not 6 years that's just the maximum penalty for the crime not what they will actually get
I'm not sure people defending this understand how much sand that is. That's like the weight of a small adult.
Harsh jail sentences for something like this I don't support but understand from Sardinia's perspective, they were clearly stealing the sand to sell it, Sardinia wants to protect its environment and harsh sentences like this are a deterrent of future theft to others. It's fucked up but you should be aware of the laws of the country you're visiting.
You visit another country you play by their rules, there's a reason you'd be absolutely insane to try and smuggle drugs in or out of Singapore for example.
You visit another country you play by their rules, there's a reason you'd be absolutely insane to try and smuggle drugs in or out of Singapore for example.
6 years is for the thieves that drives up with a dump truck and take away that amount of sand. Which has actually happened before. I'd be surprised if they get 1 year. The law says 1 to 6 years. It's based on a gradual scale in proportion to the severity of the theft and repeat offenders.
Guys, relax.
They're not actually getting 6 years, 6 years is just the max range of the crime - which is "stealing goods destined for public use".
They'll get a fine, and maybe a few months of jail - which they won't serve, because Italian Law doesn't make first-time offenders of non-violent crimes serve sentences under 3-5 years.
They're not actually getting 6 years, 6 years is just the max range of the crime - which is "stealing goods destined for public use".
They'll get a fine, and maybe a few months of jail - which they won't serve, because Italian Law doesn't make first-time offenders of non-violent crimes serve sentences under 3-5 years.
Honestly that's pretty cool looking sand, coarse, looks like beads or something.How anyone can justify 40KG of sand as a souvenir is beyond me.
This is a picture from the police.
Sardinia's main attraction for tourism are their beaches so it has a direct knock on effect. The time for the crime is high because it wants to deter folks from even contemplating it in the first place.
People shouldn't take it though, especially when there's signs (I assume there's signs?) telling people not to take it
Still not getting why they were taking that much sand as a "souvenir". Could they sell that sand for a lot?
The sentence is clearly aimed at discouraging this type of behaviour from everyone else. This is a preventative measure to protect the beach and i reckon the sentence is just fine. Those people deliberately and knowingly committed a crime, chances of them serving the full sentence are slim but it will def act as a deterrent.
That is a lot of sand definitely not a souvernir amount of sand.
Yeah, seems much too harsh. Almost like it should be the maximum punishment for this type of crime, and not the actual punishment they will be getting.
How exactly do you force a foreign tourist to do community service?
I didn't think of that. You're right, that won't work.
Then just a hefty fine. I still feel six years over sand is bananas.
Again, no one will get the full sentence, or any sentence, unless there is clear criminal intent behind and you got caught stealing a truckload of sand.
88 pounds of it. In Bermuda pink sand is the result of the creature living in a calcified red shell dying and mixing with the actual sand. In other places it may be a result of different processes but my point is it's likely unique to the area and in limited quantity. In your head it's not a serious offense but you don't know the value nor are you in any position to assign a value to protecting the integrity of the beach.
Edit: It's not pink sand but that's irrelevant to the point I was making with the last sentence.
The sentence should be however long it takes for 90 lbs/40 kg of sand to go through a tiny hourglass.
That's the oldest grift in the book. I bring you some primo sand, and get back product that's 30% gravel.
you gotta just take a little bit at a time and replace it with bleached great lakes sand, this is sand skimming 101. no sympathy for these amateurs.
*parks Jeep liberty*
*walks up to pristine white beach in "sand fanatic" tshirt*
*opens trunk revealing several large Tupperware totes*
*walks up to pristine white beach in "sand fanatic" tshirt*
*opens trunk revealing several large Tupperware totes*
According to the article, in this case fines don't work because...
Six years, tho... 😬
from OP's article said:
Six years, tho... 😬
i mean the sand there is a public natural resource/asset, so yeah it's stealing and if you taking 40kg worth you know exactly what you are doing, can't feign ignorance. I thought this was maybe just a little bit like in a pouch or something but nope lol.
Imagine 100s or thousands of people taking that much a year. That is really bad for their beaches.
But what's heavier, a kilo of sand or a kilo of feathers?
If this is a longstanding problem with the area than yeah punish them for it.
6 years in jail for that though? That's absolutely ridiculous.
6 years in jail for that though? That's absolutely ridiculous.
That doesn't answer the question.
If the punishment fits the crime then that will deter people, a harsh fine would have been enough.
