There's a pretty significant difference between a company doing this to get cheap art (which is always rightfully criticized) and a YouTube dude hosting a competition when it's laid out ahead of time that the prize is a small cash amount and being featured in a video. The impetus of the video was that fans were already doing this on the Elden Ring subreddit, so I don't see anything sinister by Vaati saying "if you send your boss ideas to me and I like them I'll send you some cash and put them in the competition vid."
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Top ten Elden ring bosses... created by fans
- Thread starter Thewonandonly
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Not really, nobody was putting this much work into it.
Before the contest was announced, half the art from reddit was stolen from artstation without credit, the rest was mostly amateur work, many people were clearly learning digital art just so that they could contribute to the community but you wouldnt find anything on the level of what you can see in the top 100. As Raging Spaniard said earlier, some people submitted pieces that could be comissioned for over 2k dollars.
The idea of "they were already doing it anyways" is terrible. You wouldnt approach a senior artist and ask them to work for you on the basis that you'll pay them only if you like the ressults. you need to pay artists upfront.
Im not saying that there's no room for art contests. The problem here is that the host is clearly the one benefitting the most and is doing so through the work of 100+ artists that are putting a lot of effort into their work and might not even get the """exposure"".
I'll reffer to my post on the other thread:
I guess what Im getting at is that this feels like spec work so Vaati can eventually use it for his own purposes (be it making a game or to present himself as a creative director type for a company) It may not be true but it certainly gives me that vibe and thats not a great feeling as theres a good chance this was done with all the right intentions.
I don't know, to me there's still a huge difference between Ubisoft saying "create Watch Dogs assets for us and we'll toss you $50 if you're lucky" or whatever that stupid contest was, and this where the end result is solely a video announcing the winners of the contest and showing off their work. If Vaati were going to turn around and make an Elden Ring fan game from these and sell it for a profit, that would be scummy. But this feels fundamentally different to me.
I guess I'm just saying I don't have any issue with a pure art contest, and that's all this seems like to me. I don't know exactly where the line is between spec work and contests but I'm pretty comfortable calling this just a contest unless he ever tries to further monetize the entries.
These artists also wrote lore and some even had gameplay designs too. The art alone is an insane amount of work, but designing a "boss" is even more work still.
Or just read this
A dude who has been known to make a profit off the work of others, decided to run this "fake lore contest"... I mean. Yeah.
lmfao @ all of these
Oh gods...
Google Vaati plagiarism
Or just read this
A dude who has been known to make a profit off the work of others, decided to run this "fake lore contest"... I mean. Yeah.
In an era of constant drip feed of info its insane to me we've had so little. I'm a starving pug, give me something.
Then people would be super disappointed that the game doesn't live up to their imagination.