The surprise was about how good BC is on PS4.
Also the OP should be updated with impressions from other journos and sites that show closer times.
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Tom Warren video: Xbox Series X vs. PS5 boot times / resume from standby
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The surprise was about how good BC is on PS4.
Also the OP should be updated with impressions from other journos and sites that show closer times.
so basically very similar to the ~8 seconds that Push Square reported, that leaves Warren as the outlier
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Why are Toms numbers different than the other tests?
Oh well Nelson is in here so I think we know whats going on.
Oh well Nelson is in here so I think we know whats going on.
Just to be clear here, we've tested this across multiple consoles and we're seeing the same results. If anyone has seen footage of resume from sleep that's 5 seconds, I'd love to see it to see what's different. I am measuring both from the point I press the button to wake the consoles up, and you can see that clearly in the video.
It seems no two people's timings are exactly the same. I guess a million and one things could vary your resume time. What was suspended, what the machine was in the middle of doing, whether it was in the middle of doing something in rest mode when you resumed - if that thing was network related or not - if it wanted to run a check on something...
Digital Foundry have already revealed that the surprise was how great BC was on the PS5. See the start of this video:
Can't say I'm complaining.
At worse, I spend 14 seconds. At best I wait 8 seconds or so.
Definitely going to be a pleasant experience that may even improve over time.
It's pretty clear that MS and Sony both have a big interest in seeing load time reductions across the entire user experience.
At worse, I spend 14 seconds. At best I wait 8 seconds or so.
Definitely going to be a pleasant experience that may even improve over time.
It's pretty clear that MS and Sony both have a big interest in seeing load time reductions across the entire user experience.
Yea that was the specific surprising they were talking about. But this seems to be another surprise all on it's own.
I was just about to post this, thanks. This is in line with the other reviews I'm seeing so far.
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I mean he is the only one with showing a vid so far. Not saying the others are wrong tho.
Tom Warren clarified that they tested it across multiple consoles and got the same results.
I tagged you about this earlier... why aren't you adding to the first post the other reports that show faster PS5 boot times from sleep mode than the one from Tom Warren (like the thread title claims)? You've edited the post at least once to include more comments from him, and the bizarre thing is that update was him challenging other tests that you aren't even bothering to add, so there is no context there at all. Besides, I haven't seen him confirm if had the PS5's Eco mode turned on, which would likely affect boot times as some here have observed (perhaps add that disclaimer in the OP until/if he addresses it).
If this was supposed to solely be a thread about his outlier test alone, then simply say so and ask the mods to change the thread title for you: "Tom Warren's Boot Time Comparison". However, if it is supposed to truly capture all reported comparisons (especially since they are varying widely), then put them all up for people to discuss thoroughly.
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Atm his is the only one with a video for us to judge. The others are abit over the place also. So atm i keep it at that.
Will ask for a title change if that satisfies you.
Such an awesome improvement from last gen. Sony and Microsoft absolutely nailed this.
Appreciate the tests from reviewers.
bruh
Appreciate the tests from reviewers.
bruh
Edit: I was accidentally referring to a different Tweet and confused surprise with advantage, with respect to the Xbox Series X not holding 60 fps.
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Yea, I have to say it is a bit weird he isn't updating the OP with the other (faster) times and tests, but is happy to update with Tom Warren's follow up post (which came after the other results were posted).
The interesting thing is that Dave Lee's cold boot time is almost exactly the same as Tom Warren's.
That makes zero sense (mods, chime in?).
Push Square is a professional organization. Their rep posted his results here and you have an obligation to add reports like that to minimize confusion, not add to it by sticking to only one source. If you can post up TW's challenge to other tests that differ from his (which you did), you can post the actual tests he is challenging for full context.
Quick write a mail to Sony as they didn't know and send him a PS5. XD
Perhaps Tom got the results he got and there are other reasons for these differences in booting. Why is is necessary to treat journalist (Tom, ...) and developers like this?
Personally updates on other reports should be video comparison. Need visual receipts. Either way its great to have consoles finally using SSDs as a standard.
You should be presenting all the evidence, not selectively choosing a portion of it. Allow people to make up their own minds and see the whole picture.
I honestly wonder how the hell the Xbox is loading faster, triply so for resuming from sleep. Technology is fascinating
hello there, Will you do a podcast with one or two Xbox members and talk about your experience with the new launch? The challenges, the suprises, your excitement, ... . I just like to hear insiders of the new consoles talk about the lead up to launch :)
I agree. OP please make a edit with those times. It would be fair.
The PushSquare rep on this forum has stated he's getting different numbers. Is that not good enough?
Probably a silly question...but I don't suppose it could be a handshake issue with the tv being used?
It looks like an LG and my PS4 Pro often takes an age for an image to appear on that (sometimes it doesn't at all ....unless I unplug/replug the HDMI cable).
It looks like an LG and my PS4 Pro often takes an age for an image to appear on that (sometimes it doesn't at all ....unless I unplug/replug the HDMI cable).
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Very surprised to see the raw numbers for just regular booting plus the Gamespot testing. Kind of head scratching unless its simply a matter of optimization vs. not? However, I am watching this DF BC video and it sounds really positive.
As someone basically equally excited for both new machines and thrilled about fast consoles to go along with a fast PC, I am just happy for every bit of good news we get about the new machines :)
As someone basically equally excited for both new machines and thrilled about fast consoles to go along with a fast PC, I am just happy for every bit of good news we get about the new machines :)
How were the numbers calculated?
The wake from sleep time seems odd... It takes like 13-14s (time between pressing the button to the user selection screen to show up) on my PS4 Pro, and it's still using HDD
Nah, the DF crew are very knowledgeable and they should've anticipated this. They knew Xbox and PS won't automatically increase the resolution of games beyond their limit set by the developers. Which is most of the time...
- 900p Xbox One
- 1080p PS4
- 1440p PS4 Pro
- 4K Xbox one X
You tried to switch the sleep mode ?
There are two different sleep modes on PS5, right ?
Very good point. My Samsung takes a while to show anything, my Panasonic is much faster.
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A lot of loading times are decompression times, etc. So the faster CPU could be playing a part here.
That won't likely be the case for native PS5 games though.
I just realized that they were not referring to the Tweet I thought they were. I thought it was about the PS5 60 fps Tweet from DF's John where he was discussing that Xbox has it's own advantage despite not holding 60 fps versus the PS5.
