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Tom Holland tweeted a date and caused confusion to many Americans
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How often do you think people leave a long enough gap between saying the day and the month that people are getting confused and wondering which month that day is in? And by your logic if you say the month first I'll be sitting there thinking "it could be any one of 28-31 points in that month, which is it?"
Hahaha I always love these threads where a bunch of american's try and convince everyone else in the world the way they do dates is correct when no one else does it that way.
Also funny seeing americans react go people saying that the dd/mm/yyyy format makes sense as it goes from smallest to largest with "no the usa system does! 1-12 is less than 1-31" as if american's can't understand numbers in context......you know smallest to largest means units of time right? 1-12 may be smaller numbers but months are bigger than days in units of time.......
Or how about the argument of saying dates out long form as if that's done constantly when someone asks the date as opposed to just the day in question because most people would know the month or year they are in.....unless they've been asleep for months?
Also funny seeing americans react go people saying that the dd/mm/yyyy format makes sense as it goes from smallest to largest with "no the usa system does! 1-12 is less than 1-31" as if american's can't understand numbers in context......you know smallest to largest means units of time right? 1-12 may be smaller numbers but months are bigger than days in units of time.......
Or how about the argument of saying dates out long form as if that's done constantly when someone asks the date as opposed to just the day in question because most people would know the month or year they are in.....unless they've been asleep for months?
It's how we say it out loud. I always thought that was why we have it this way. Not arguing that it's better but it makes perfect sense to us.
Oh and one last thing, it's also better.
If you speak english, maybe. But it's doesn't necessarily sound better in other languages. Like, saying the month first in french actually kinda sound pretty dumb.
Canada doesn't use it either call them out.I also recently found out that many Americans aren't familiar with "A" format papers despite the rest of the world using the system.
For the same reason they use inches, feet, pounds, miles.....
I have no idea
The american format never made sense to me, like, why? What's so confusing about putting the day first? You don't know the month you live in? Plus going from smallest to biggest unit is just... Right?
Now for indexing purposes YYYY/MM/DD is obviously the best system. Putting the month first is the worst for any possible use.
Now for indexing purposes YYYY/MM/DD is obviously the best system. Putting the month first is the worst for any possible use.
What you just said makes no logical sense. By your logic you should be saying the year first because that narrows it to a discrete chunk of time, then the month narrows it down more than day gives you the exact date. Your own logic shows that you are wrong.
YYYYMMDD is indeed the most ideal. I use it in Japan, but that US State Department site also used it the other day when it trolled the world about Trump's resignation.
And guess what, the US format has more in common with it and the DDMMYYYY one does.
The issue with DDMM is that it's useless for sorting. Meanwhile, YYYYMMDD or MMDDYYYY yield the same sort order.
And guess what, the US format has more in common with it and the DDMMYYYY one does.
The issue with DDMM is that it's useless for sorting. Meanwhile, YYYYMMDD or MMDDYYYY yield the same sort order.
I may miss something, but no...
2020-09-22
2021-09-21
vs
09-21-2021
09-22-2020
July 4th is used often interchangeably with 4th of July.
Basically this...
It also means when you sort it orders dates correctly.
Sorry, I should've been more careful with my phrasing. They sort in the same order within the same year. When it comes to multiyear tracking, YYYYMMDD is unilaterally the best, but DDMMYYYY is still the worst.
That really ought to be the system. And then you omit year when it's obvious.
You don't need to narrow things down with the first when you get the rest a split second later, lol.
Day - month - year.
I love these threads where we all argue about how the way we're used to do things makes the most sense.
Uh huh. That's the why you guys are the only ones to use it. Good old American snowflakes, have to be unique. 😒
I agree, Year -> Month -> Day is the ideal format, since then at least machines could easily sort shit chronologically.
Day -> Month -> Year would be next, because at least it's organised in a chronological order.
Month -> Day -> Year bringing up the rear.
DD/MM/YYYY when talking or writing the date for someone.
YYYY/MM/DD when filing by date physically or digitally.
I will never understand MM/DD/YYYY or how it came to be used.
I hope you weren't trying to convince anyone because this was a terrible example.
YYYY/MM/DD when filing by date physically or digitally.
I will never understand MM/DD/YYYY or how it came to be used.
I hope you weren't trying to convince anyone because this was a terrible example.
And then omit the month as well when it's obvious.
It least it's better than the archaic clinging to the imperial system which is completely inferior and actually leads to real world problems.
Okay, this is my new favorite image to show the absurdness of the american format.Are you replying to the right person? This seems pretty much unrelated to what I wrote.
The American way does also not go from smallest to largest:
Middle-endian lol
I also recently found out that many Americans aren't familiar with "A" format papers despite the rest of the world using the system.
You are fucking with me.
This is beyond stupid , its called July 4th all the time lmao its just how we talk and what people are used to its not that serious
I don't know why people are only considering events that happen in their immediate temporal vicinity. If someone was to ask about events from your past, events within the last, say, 2-3 years, at what point do you think month is a more important piece of information to convey?
"Hey, remember that assignment last year?"
"Yeah, sure; the one in February?"
Exact date is needlessly precise for the vast amount of occurrences outsides of a 4-6 week window around now, which is to say, the colossal majority of important events - things outside of that window and therefore 99.999999% occurrences in human history - to be remembered do not need to have date information tacked on.
When did Notre Dame burn down? When was that Iranian general attacked? When did the Oklahoma city bombing happen? When was the Crimea attacked? If you were to convey information about the temporal location of those with minimal reference, does it seem more important to convey date+year, or month+year?
When dates are shortened in articles talking about things in the past, is it DD/YY? No, it's MM/YY, because no one cares about the exact date for most dates. And, since we don't know how far in the future date information we record now will be referred to, it makes infinitely more sense to assume that someone will be interacting with recorded date information at some point between 6weeks-infinity than they will be interacting with that information within the next 6 weeks, of only because the former is a literally infinitely larger span of retrospective reference.
"Hey, remember that assignment last year?"
"Yeah, sure; the one in February?"
Exact date is needlessly precise for the vast amount of occurrences outsides of a 4-6 week window around now, which is to say, the colossal majority of important events - things outside of that window and therefore 99.999999% occurrences in human history - to be remembered do not need to have date information tacked on.
When did Notre Dame burn down? When was that Iranian general attacked? When did the Oklahoma city bombing happen? When was the Crimea attacked? If you were to convey information about the temporal location of those with minimal reference, does it seem more important to convey date+year, or month+year?
When dates are shortened in articles talking about things in the past, is it DD/YY? No, it's MM/YY, because no one cares about the exact date for most dates. And, since we don't know how far in the future date information we record now will be referred to, it makes infinitely more sense to assume that someone will be interacting with recorded date information at some point between 6weeks-infinity than they will be interacting with that information within the next 6 weeks, of only because the former is a literally infinitely larger span of retrospective reference.