So those recent official releases of Agito, Ryuki and Faiz have some abysmal English translations. Grammar mistakes, spelling errors (honshin), it's somehow worse than TV-Nihon. Hopefully Shout Factory cleans that shit up.
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If Toei paid for these subs to be done, Shout Factory will probably be told to just use em as is, since its "official".
lol. I'm suddenly transported to the late 2000's with HK-subs. I paid for them at the time, but I couldn't imagine doing so in the modern era.
These are not Shout Factory releases. These are TokuHD releases.
Shout Factory has the rights to Kamen Rider, Kuuga, and now Ryuki and Zero-One.
TokuHD has the rights to Agito and Faiz.
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Literally, the tweets you posted acknowledge this.
You do a disservice to Shoutfactory's efforts by confusing the two.
I wasn't blaming them. I was hoping Shout Factory would do a better job than TokuHD.
They already are, but there's nothing to "clean up" to reference your original post. Shout Factory does not have the rights to those shows, and given TokuHD's rights squatting, it's possible they never will.
I watched RealxTime. The hype was real. Hands down the best Rider standalone film I have ever watched but to be fair the bar is pretty low lol.
I thought it sounded like the Power Puff Girls theme.
Twokaiser's gear is voiced by the same VA that did the Gokaiger gear so that was a nice touch.
I would say a good film but you absolutely have to watch the whole 45 episode series first. They did a poor job onboarding viewers in that way. I guess this disqualifies it for that reason alone.
That being said, if you turn your brain off (and don't mind the Toei budget CG), you might like it regardless? It's just a visual spectacle all the way and the main villain gives a great performance.
My question is how did the Gokaiger crew have a kid with Kaito Daiki and the Kyoryugers.
Think you misread my post. I'm saying that if anyone else ever did get the rights, they might have to face using those subs, since Toei are a bit lazy with this and might end up seeing them as "official".
Zenkaiger 8
Twokaizer's already entertaining as hell to watch, but I have to wonder if this was the right time to bring him in; poor Stacey feels a little outshined one episode after he got introduced. Loved this week's monster, though. That powerset was super-fun!
Twokaizer's already entertaining as hell to watch, but I have to wonder if this was the right time to bring him in; poor Stacey feels a little outshined one episode after he got introduced. Loved this week's monster, though. That powerset was super-fun!
Saber 32
Mostly fights and a bit of plot. Not terrible, I guess. Blades new form is the best Saber suit, by far.
Zenkaiger 08
This episode used a lot of green screen again, but in a way so creative it was just fun. They are also very creative with their problem solving. Both the main team and Ceasar going against the "sentai rules" was awesome. Also love the Kaito/Stacey dynamic, so fun!
And, of course, YOHOHOI. What an intro. After such a strong debut, I really hope they don't mess Twokaiser.
Mostly fights and a bit of plot. Not terrible, I guess. Blades new form is the best Saber suit, by far.
Zenkaiger 08
This episode used a lot of green screen again, but in a way so creative it was just fun. They are also very creative with their problem solving. Both the main team and Ceasar going against the "sentai rules" was awesome. Also love the Kaito/Stacey dynamic, so fun!
And, of course, YOHOHOI. What an intro. After such a strong debut, I really hope they don't mess Twokaiser.
Oh, he probably is. He can dance - actor was in the Zangetsu stage play and did some there. Considering how much of the schtick is built around dancing (i.e
the form changes also having their own dances), it was probably a key component to him getting the role lol.
It is a bit early, but his toys are coming out... now, so it is what it is. After they used Strongest Battle to push the premieres back another month, expect to start seeing early 6ths more often, especially if the toyline remains slimmed down (i.e. his mech is the only major Q2 toy; wheras Ryusoulger had DimeVolcano in Q2 before Gold, much like Kira had King Express before Silver).
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Probably given his major visual inspiration: Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger.
Also, looking it up, I guess the main guy is supposed to Zenkaizer as well.
This is another one of those things where it really doesn't matter, but there you go. If Zenkaiser feels right to you, write that.
I really didn't enjoy RealXTime at all. What was the deal with it winning awards or something? Or did it just do surprisingly well at the box office during rona times?
The box office was surprisingly low (which is why they already moved back the solo movie for summer rather than continuing the new schedule), but it had very good reviews. I can't remember anything about an actual award though
Gets extra weird because Stacey is Stacaesar and both used " ザー " ( zā ), but as MHWilliams sad we have yet to see "Zenkaiser" or "Twokaiser" officially used by the show, same as Vroon/Vroom. We can follow whichever but as long as there are no official international name just don't get too attached to romanizations.
If you want to get a bit technical, there are multiple ways of romanizing Katakana that it can sometimes be based on context or someone else's whim. Like shouldn't Juran be Zyuran if he's based on Zyuranger? (ジュラン / ジュウレンジャー ) But he's Juran and we're just rolling with it, unless Toei want to change his name to Zyuran sometime later.
Same as "Gorenger" being the official title instead of "Goranger":
Which is a pretty kickass book btw. Shotaro Ishinomori was a genius in sequential art.
I think I've been going with "Zenkaizer" and "Twokaizer" without even thinking about it just because that's what I've seen used the most. "Zenkaiser" and "Twokaiser" probably do make more sense.
Yeah, I figured it was toy-related. I do hope that's it for recurring characters right now (aside from the rest of the pirate crew next episode), and that they just spend the next good while delving into the characters they already have in there.
Kamen Rider Zero-One
At first this show felt like it had a problem with dragging certain plotlines on for too long, and then it switched to introducing and wrapping them up with hardly any breathing room. I also didn't watch any of the specials, so some plot points left me utterly confused when they were brought in out of nowhere. That said, I still liked the characters and ideas presented here a lot; Jin in particular had a journey I didn't expect, and Aruto really grew on me when I wasn't super-fond of him at the start. Also quite a few suits I immediately fell in love with; shout-outs to Assault Wolf, Burning Falcon, and Ark!
I haven't seen RealxTime yet, but I'd definitely like to sooner rather than later. For now, onto Drive!
Yeah, I figured it was toy-related. I do hope that's it for recurring characters right now (aside from the rest of the pirate crew next episode), and that they just spend the next good while delving into the characters they already have in there.
Kamen Rider Zero-One
At first this show felt like it had a problem with dragging certain plotlines on for too long, and then it switched to introducing and wrapping them up with hardly any breathing room. I also didn't watch any of the specials, so some plot points left me utterly confused when they were brought in out of nowhere. That said, I still liked the characters and ideas presented here a lot; Jin in particular had a journey I didn't expect, and Aruto really grew on me when I wasn't super-fond of him at the start. Also quite a few suits I immediately fell in love with; shout-outs to Assault Wolf, Burning Falcon, and Ark!
I haven't seen RealxTime yet, but I'd definitely like to sooner rather than later. For now, onto Drive!
I think it does matter because Kaiser is an actual existing word, Toei misspelling it should not mean we just do it too. If it was just Twokaizer I could maybe roll with the Kaizoku/Kaiser pun. But using the Z in Zenkaizer who has no Kaizoku connection makes it obvious it's not meant to be a pun, it's just misspelled.Probably given his major visual inspiration: Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger.
Also, looking it up, I guess the main guy is supposed to Zenkaizer as well.
This is another one of those things where it really doesn't matter, but there you go. If Zenkaiser feels right to you, write that.
But we don't have to see Kaiser being used to know that that's how it's spelled and that it's in fact meant to be Kaiser and not just something that sounds like it is made very obvious by the use of Caesar as an opposing force.
That's different because there are actually several ways to romanize japanese words so there's room for ambiguity and different spellings but when a western word is transcribed into japanese and then back there's no ambiguity. アイスクリーム for example is ice cream and not aisu kurīmu or anything in between those two. ザー is used for both ceasar and kaiser to emulate the pronunciation and I assume that's where the kaizer spelling comes from, it's a result of the kana being used, the fact that in japanese a voiced and voiceless S sound is differentiated in writing (z vs. s) and not being familiar enough with the actual spelling to notice the mistake.
By the end of the day Toei decided his current romanized name is Zenkaizer. They may change it one day, they may not. Fansubs are free to use Zenkaiser or Zenkaizer. We don't get to say Toei is wrong just because kaizer isn't an English word, they can decide any other names they desire. Who cares if Condol isn't an actual English word? English isn't the only "correct" language in the world.
But that's wrong.
Yeah, it's not english, it's german and we do get to say Toei is wrong if they are wrong. Kaiser is spelled with an s, that's just a fact.
You don't have to care that it's wrong, that's perfectly fine but you can't say it's not a wrong spelling just because Toei decided to spell it differently, that's not how spelling works.
I mean, we literally just had this discussion recently and I was largely on your side.
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So you agree that it's Kaiser?😉
But in this case it matters to me a lot, maybe it's because german is my first language and a misspelled german word is much more noticeable to me than a misspelled english word but it sticks out like a sore thumb.
Pointing out that Toei uses an objectively wrong spelling isn't "english supremacy". Like I said, you don't have to care but please don't turn this into something it's not.
Sunrise decided to intentionally misspell a word for one of their Gundam series. What's a reconguista? Doesn't matter.
Why did Toei go with Kiramager rather than Kirameiger for the romanization of that series? Because they wanted to.
Toei especially does this sort of thing all the time. They make up english-sounding words just because it sounds cool or because the spelling and resulting sound is thematically consistent.
They probably went with Kaizer because of the word Zenkai. It almost sounds like a palindrome because it keeps that z sound.
And that's fine by me.
Why did Toei go with Kiramager rather than Kirameiger for the romanization of that series? Because they wanted to.
Toei especially does this sort of thing all the time. They make up english-sounding words just because it sounds cool or because the spelling and resulting sound is thematically consistent.
They probably went with Kaizer because of the word Zenkai. It almost sounds like a palindrome because it keeps that z sound.
And that's fine by me.
I guess they just wanted to give him a creepy grin, so they made him munch whatever was that goop in his mouth.
Ohranger has a very sudden tone change due to a terrorist attack at the time. So you need to get through the first 10 episodes to see how it really ends up.
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But like episode 1 of Ohranger is like War of the World's. The mooks are especially creepy. I was taken aback honestly at how dire it felt.
But yeah I'm aware it goes from "were gonna bomb major metropolitan cities!" to "we're gonna make people wear mismatched socks" and I'm kind of interested to see that.
I still don't get what Ohranger is about. Uh kind of military themes BUT also like ancient civilizations too? Very odd.
But yeah I'm aware it goes from "were gonna bomb major metropolitan cities!" to "we're gonna make people wear mismatched socks" and I'm kind of interested to see that.
I still don't get what Ohranger is about. Uh kind of military themes BUT also like ancient civilizations too? Very odd.
It impresses me how Ohranger had really poor TV ratings, but had record setting toy sales. I think the only season that came close was Gaoranger.
That was a misunderstanding. That number for Ohranger was the overall group numbers (which used to include Power Rangers money), not just Japanese toy sales. Ohranger still was the best selling series in the late 90s though, but that was basically the worst selling period for Sentai, even lower than recent years (well, this chart isn't a complete one, but Kiramager dropped to that level though, only beating TimeRanger).
Note that these are per year, so the Gaoranger/Hurricanger number also is pretty questionable since Gaoranger saw such a hug leap from previous series they were still selling Gaoranger merch during Hurricanger and designed and advertised the Hurricanger mecha as compatible with Gao's.
That was a misunderstanding. That number for Ohranger was the overall group numbers (which used to include Power Rangers money), not just Japanese toy sales. Ohranger still was the best selling series in the late 90s though, but that was basically the worst selling period for Sentai, even lower than recent years (well, this chart isn't a complete one, but Kiramager dropped to that level though, only beating TimeRanger).
Note that these are per year, so the Gaoranger/Hurricanger number also is pretty questionable since Gaoranger saw such a hug leap from previous series they were still selling Gaoranger merch during Hurricanger and designed and advertised the Hurricanger mecha as compatible with Gao's.
Hmm interesting. It can be hard to get proper info sometimes.
Thanks for shouting out Accel, dudes easily been my favorite 2nd rider for a decade now with Zeronos is easily being my second and was unseated by Accel. Huge shout to both Birth's too who have a fun dynamic and tell a good story together.
I always liked his belt qoute when he goes to deep spectre; "Dive too Deep" is an awesome thing to hear during a power up
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