Schools are out on summer break by that time, so they can dodge that question too.
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Schools are out on summer break by that time, so they can dodge that question too.
to be fair, their plans for this usually don't entail the holiday in question literally being approved a day before it's observed
(and fair on the rest of that, just wondering whether department SOPs would vary significantly)
Let's make the southern states ditch confederate Memorial Day too while we are at it (which believe it or not, is real and state holiday in some places). Apparently Memorial Day is good enough for every war in us history but the civil war needs it's own day in the eyes of "some"
I think it's possible to simultaneously acknowledge that adding Juneteenth as a federal holiday is not a substitute for legitimate federal action to protect and expand the civil rights of African Americans - and also celebrate this as the culmination of decades of Black advocacy for wider recognition of Juneteenth.
That's true xD And knowing these agencies, change can either be very fast because they were prepared or it'll take an eternity and never anything in between.
What I imagine will happen is that many government HR/payroll offices will issue holiday credit to all employees at a later date to use at their disposal due to how last minute this is, just so people can't complain about missing out on the holiday.
And none of those people are passing legislation to change what is taught in schools, because the federal government doesn't change that. Different levels of government.
Sure, but many of them go on Fox and whine about critical race theory whenever they get a chance.
example
Every time it's the same people rushing in to downplay any positive news. God forbid anybody express positivity over Juneteenth being recognized.
This is the right way to think about it
I think it is the idea that we know all of these people absolutely support the laws being implemented in the states they represent.
Oh hey the cop is gonna be there too 🥳
Edit: I want to clarify I'm saying this because Kamala had a big hand in incarcerating black men and women in California so I just find it ironic…
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That thought process fucking sucks. As if we take more than a certain amount of days off the world will explode. Some companies are moving to 4 day work weeks anyway, we can add holidays without replacing another.
It's still fuck Columbus Day, though. Couldn't care less if we lost that.
On my way home from work yesterday, I heard him talking about this on the radio. Made some really good points.
Could you just not?
America's first black VP is signing a bill to federally recognize Juneteenth. The Congressional Black Caucus worked hard to make this bill a reality. Snipe at Kamala later.
There's a discussion to be had about Kamala's history as a DA, but that seems more appropriate for another thread.
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The cynicism of some of you must just make life fucking miserable.
Seems 100% relevant to me considering how much of our current justice and prison systems were built on top of methods for capturing escaped slaves, on top of prison labor being literal legal slavery.
I don't see why it shouldn't happen here when this is a celebration of ending slavery and yet we still have an issue in the states where black men have the highest rates of incarceration compared to any other ethnic group and Kamala absolutely helped to do that as DA. I'm not about sitting around celebrating a holiday that won't get treated as a lesson about our past by the people who need to hear it while we still have modern-day forms of slavery ala the US prison system.
No, I'm relatively happy. It's just that these things matter to me.
Word is that it will be implemented immediately by the Office of Personnel Management upon its signing, but don't expect anything from your respective workplaces.
And yeah it's a Saturday.
White supremacy does more to make me unhappy than my own outlook. Maybe I don't give a fuck that Juneteenth is going to be a national holiday when states everywhere are making it harder for people who look like me to vote. When people who look like me are incarcerated at much higher rates. When people who look like me are still being killed by cops. When support for movements that help people that look like me are lower now than they have been in years.
Maybe don't talk about how some of us are cynical when this country is literally trying to kill us every fucking day and a lot of people are happy to sit by and watch and tut tut when we're not happy about the most miniscule pieces of shit things the government does to "help us."
Fuck out of here with that.
The people working to recognize Juneteenth are not the same people making it harder to vote.
100% this. This is a bandaid over a festering wound. Our nation continues to fuck us over and we are supposed to be happy about something that is strictly ceremonial with nothing to actually fix any of our actual problems.
You aren't listening. You think think that those people who signed off on this aren't supporting the bills being passed in their respective states? They don't have to be the exact people doing it. This is about what they could do in other circumstances at the federal level and how they fail to do that.
As a white man, yeah I've decided every year I'll spend this day doing volunteer work.
Your point?
Here is mine:
I give zero fucks about Juneteenth being a federal holiday. I give zero fucks about white people getting time off to "celebrate" something they hadn't even heard of until some Black person was murdered and it became a conversation. I give zero fucks about any of this because it addresses exactly zero issues we have in this country today.
In a couple years, this is just going to be a drinking holiday for white people where they go out to bars in daishikis.
Me: "Hey, can yall do something about police beating me for looking at them, and them conviently having their cameras turned off?"
Congress: "Don't worry, we see you and we RESPECT you" *kneels in african garments and does this*
Me: "Thanks but that's not really what I asked for...."
is all i can think of at times like this
but let me not be cynical.....
Congress: "Don't worry, we see you and we RESPECT you" *kneels in african garments and does this*
Me: "Thanks but that's not really what I asked for...."
is all i can think of at times like this
but let me not be cynical.....
Like...the fucking audacity to call a Black person living in America cynical is just amazing to me.
They need to officially rename it Indigenous People's Day then. There needs to be some day of observation for them plus it's great having a universal day off in between Labor Day and Thanksgiving.
You say this as though we haven't attempted to get action done and it got shot down at all angles. I know for a fact that if police reform, prison reform, drug decriminalization, or voting rights got bought up tomorrow for a vote, these exact people would laugh or say "oh it just can't be done" or have 500 excuses as to why it shouldn't be done.
I'm a cis het White man. So, I don't want to speak for Black Americans, but maybe I can explain why some Black Americans aren't impressed by this to White people. If I'm wrong, POCs, please call me out. I mean this. Also, I want to be clear I'm not speaking for anybody, but mostly putting out feedback I've received from members of activist communities I associate with locally.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, both, had a strong hand in the incarceration of POCs, a significant amount of that incarceration being Black men. Additionally, a lot of the Democratic party and the whole of the GOP haven't really done much to address those issues. This is from a local level up to a federal level. So, I can imagine there are many POCs who see the bill to make Juneteenth a national holiday is being signed by somebody who had a hand in imprisoning Black Americans, while that same person isn't screaming from the rooftops that officers of the law are murdering Black people and it needs to be fixed, might not be too impressed. Many of those people probably feel this is great for optics, but doubt change will happen.
Now, I believe this is good, on paper. There are people that fought to make this happen and I'm, personally, looking forward to at least some people being educated on the importance of the date. I don't know if it will genuinely lead to any action in the future, but hopefully it will.
this is performative at best, but its nice for those who want. let's actually pass civil rights laws and anti-lynching stuff instead of a holiday bill, tbh.
Maybe not, but it seems tailor made to distract people from all the other more important measures that aren't happening.
Realest post i've seen in a minute
sick of the white people patting themselves on the back for this shit
I guess I'm just annoyed that this is now a copmala thread, when it's not even her bill. She's just the tiebreaking vote in the Senate.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee was the driving force behind it. I think people just see Biden's name in the thread title and go off.
None of what you mention is false. It's understandable for people to be cynical for the reasons you mention.
That said, it does still mean something for Juneteenth to get Federal recognition. Awareness and recognition is a necessary part of the conversation.
"Copmala" is a valid aspect of the discussion especially when it involves race and slavery.
You talk about awareness and recognition in regards to Juneteenth, but this must also be a part of the discussion because it is all connected to one another.
I...HATE...that name...and while I'll always celebrate it I'll never refer to it as Juneteenth.
Freedom Day in the USA.
Juneteenth...ugh...that's lazy branding 101.
Freedom Day in the USA.
Juneteenth...ugh...that's lazy branding 101.
As someone who does a lot of organizing work and activist work, especially last year (and early this year), to the point where I had to take a mental health break and separate myself from a lot of it, because I began to feel like I was falling into an endless fog of depression and hopelessness...
I am happy about this.
I can be happy about this.
And that doesn't mean the work is done. That doesn't mean I've lost sight that this same government is trying to impede on the rights of Black Americans and our ability to exercise our rights even now, or that taking a moment to appreciate the little victories (and celebrate the people who made them possible) along this winding road that we'll probably never see the end of in my lifetime is somehow betraying what we're trying to dismantle. It doesn't mean that the people who involve themselves in this work on the regular are just suddenly not. For me, it means that sometimes you have to give your soul a break, and note the progress you have made or else, paradoxically, you haven't made any.
I happy about this. Tomorrow, the work continues.
I am happy about this.
I can be happy about this.
And that doesn't mean the work is done. That doesn't mean I've lost sight that this same government is trying to impede on the rights of Black Americans and our ability to exercise our rights even now, or that taking a moment to appreciate the little victories (and celebrate the people who made them possible) along this winding road that we'll probably never see the end of in my lifetime is somehow betraying what we're trying to dismantle. It doesn't mean that the people who involve themselves in this work on the regular are just suddenly not. For me, it means that sometimes you have to give your soul a break, and note the progress you have made or else, paradoxically, you haven't made any.
I happy about this. Tomorrow, the work continues.
