they have ferraris. i bet they can afford a decent education in their own country
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To all my fellow Chinese diaspora
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When a mailman boycotts post office work for a day, who does one blame for not getting their monthly issue of Sports Illustrated? The mailman, the post office, or Rosa Parks?
Show me examples or I'm going to assume this is a giant strawman.
Yeah, but the OP also wrote this:
So it's kinda moot what are they actually trying to say.
Tbf we are notoriously bad at disconnecting bad governments/organizations from the people who live under/around them.
The only dehumanizing going on is the CCP's dehumanization and genocide of the Uighurs.
That is what I'm getting from the OP, which I sometimes feel. There are points worth discussing but I don't think posters jumping in and immediately calling OP a shill disproves his points.
When I grew up in Beijing, my family had jars of change lining the walls to save up for our one-way trip to the US. While my dad got his PhD, my mom worked illegally at a Chinese restaurant so that we could get by on a $20/week grocery budget. I couldn't afford a pencil sharpener so I used a kitchen knife.
Fuck off.
What do you think about your country's human rights atrocities they are committing as we speak? I think most people here just take issue with that stuff.
True, people downplaying the destructive power of dictatorships has been going on a long time.
The post he's referring to is this one where the poster lays out a case for why incentivizing wealthy Chinese students to study in China would be beneficial to both China and the US, but OP has disingenuously stripped it of context to make it sound like racists are advocating banning all Chinese people from the country.
Maybe I havent been paying attention, but for the most part, commentary here has been critical of the conduct of the Chinese government and its various agents. There have been a few posts that have definitely tried to suggest that the people as a whole would be as or more intolerant, but those voices are very few, and unfortunately conflating the practices of the government with those governed is a common fallacy among the ill-informed.
By all means, please be empowered by your heritage, your identity, your history and traditions. Own them and reflect on them - you who have first hand experience are most able to speak about your country's greatest strengths and weaknesses. But being unwilling to accept any criticism and identifying yourself as nothing more than an agent of the government of the day is unlikely to endear you to those around you who may not share your experience and opinions.
By all means, please be empowered by your heritage, your identity, your history and traditions. Own them and reflect on them - you who have first hand experience are most able to speak about your country's greatest strengths and weaknesses. But being unwilling to accept any criticism and identifying yourself as nothing more than an agent of the government of the day is unlikely to endear you to those around you who may not share your experience and opinions.
Being honest, I can see the OP's point (and some other points here on similar notes).
I just don't find it in me to believe this will turn out any other way.
CCP is not going to stop. Them not stopping means any anti-Chinese sentiment that starts developing (which isn't big now but could happen) is not going to stop. Period.
And mainlanders won't have any reason to stop either; they'll just cling tighter to the CCP, and things will escalate until CCP kills off all minorities in their country or a war breaks out because they overstep with some other country (unlikely considering how money hungry people are nowadays; this is not the 1940s and they are not expanding with military force).
So knowing all that, I just find it difficult to care. Even as an Asian in the US.
I just don't find it in me to believe this will turn out any other way.
CCP is not going to stop. Them not stopping means any anti-Chinese sentiment that starts developing (which isn't big now but could happen) is not going to stop. Period.
And mainlanders won't have any reason to stop either; they'll just cling tighter to the CCP, and things will escalate until CCP kills off all minorities in their country or a war breaks out because they overstep with some other country (unlikely considering how money hungry people are nowadays; this is not the 1940s and they are not expanding with military force).
So knowing all that, I just find it difficult to care. Even as an Asian in the US.
Free Hong Kong, because Chinese people are people like everyone else who deserve and desire freedom. Not that hard to grasp.
No one is denying the reality of racism towards chinese citizens. This does not mean that every single thread on China's abhorrent actions needs posters popping in to say that people are racist for being disgusted with the CCP and it's supporters. It's a blatant deflection to stop criticism of facism.
Right. and people's issue is with the CCP not Chinese culture, so not sure what your melodramatic thread is about.
I assume some posts along these lines were in the thread with the Chinese diaspora harassing the HK people in Toronto.
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My country? I'm Chinese Canadian fuck nut.
Sigh. People in the west do not hate the Chinese. They clearly love them and support them. They detest the fascist government.
Okay? I meant the country you made this thread to support. The fuck is with the hostility
There were people saying this in another thread on Era a few days ago.
Why can't you go to Hong Kong?
Seriously, the protesters want more foreigners there, just go. It's an amazing city.
It's safe too, you don't have to go in the front line and throw down with the cops, and they are not gonna target tourists.
There's an old Vietnamese saying - when America starts to talk about human rights too much, it's time to upgrade your air defense system.
I do feel there's a bit of a problem with that post, as they seem to be asking for a ban of wealthy AND middle class students. Like wtf do they have to do with this shit?
these exchange student dicks who are making the news starting shit with other asians outside of china arent poor.
Agreed, don't let yourself become bigoted just because you're fighting oppression.
(Free Hong Kong - strength, peace and love to all resistors!)
(Free Hong Kong - strength, peace and love to all resistors!)
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Hello, I have a great appreciation for the people and culture of China, and the current government of the landmass known as china is a piece of shit and needs to go away or stop
Free HK
Free HK
This very thread is about people conflating what the nation of China does with how they treat the diaspora. The OP does not mention supporting China, or any country at all. You're ironically doing exactly what he's afraid of.
Why not answer the question instead of dodging?
I agree with you but a singular post on a video game message board is not indicative of a large movement or trend as OP is trying to suggest.
Nah that's just another way to obfuscate real concerns with what is going on. The Israeli government is doing the same thing. Our government (USA) is TRYING to do the same thing but too stupid to get it right. At least we get multiple chances to push back even when the other side is cheating and hasn't had a legit win for decades.
Calling people racist for calling out a government is starting to be a new tool for nationalists and said governments to control criticism. It's not working. Call me racists from the mountain tops, it isn't going to stop me for calling out government sanctioned atrocities from foreign governments or even my own.
Calling people racist for calling out a government is starting to be a new tool for nationalists and said governments to control criticism. It's not working. Call me racists from the mountain tops, it isn't going to stop me for calling out government sanctioned atrocities from foreign governments or even my own.
As posted by BDS, the post OP is referring to seems to target both wealthy and middle class kids, your vast generalization of these kids is ridiculous
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In the "So CHina, what can be done" thread
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-china-what-can-be-done.146122/page-2
All good, I didn't mean any offense.
Maybe you're right, but they are still assuming we're all a bunch of racist bastards simply because of a moral stance most here have taken. As others said it's basically like the anti-semite/Israel conflation.
I don't hate the Chinese people. I've travelled in China and Hong Kong. I have friends and business partners who both live in China and whose families immigrated to America and Canada. Chinese culture and the people are awesome.
But fuck the Chinese party and Xi and anyone supportive of their ethnic cleansing, mind control or anyone supporting dictatorships or attempting to censure free speech.
But fuck the Chinese party and Xi and anyone supportive of their ethnic cleansing, mind control or anyone supporting dictatorships or attempting to censure free speech.
Getting that feeling as well. Will all depend on how "able" OP is able to denounce the government and the atrocities they commit.
Who is hating on anything other than Chinese government?
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