You are forgetting the most important thing, an impactful and godly animated shooting section.
Shooting enemies in those games is uber satisfying.
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"TLOU has bad gameplay"
- Thread starter Rat King
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You are forgetting the most important thing, an impactful and godly animated shooting section.
Shooting enemies in those games is uber satisfying.
Oh yeah, definitely! That's what I mean by gameplay, art design, and sound design. The feeling of moving and shooting in those games... just *chef kiss*
You can't just show one of the most epic moments of the game and affirm it's flawless in general, especially in such a condescending way (speaking about the tweet not OP).
I personnaly think the gameplay mechanics are okay and the writing is really good but the game design is trash
I personnaly think the gameplay mechanics are okay and the writing is really good but the game design is trash
To be honest, and perhaps a little blunt, I would dare to suggest that most multiplayer gamers seem content with playing absolute trash.
Which again is the same exact argument. I'll admit I played little of it, but TLOU multiplayer didn't seem anything special. It was still however a better time than say the uncharted multiplayer or most other games that get tacked onto a single player experience (let alone dedicated multiplayer revenue generating titles).
It carries the suggestion of depth, which doesn't carry things very far. But they at least put in the "suggestion" which is more than most companies will do these days. I really hope the sequel keeps going in this regard and turns into something that could really be quite "pretty decent"
I personally never beat tlou due to the gameplay not being engaging so I understand this criticism.
After watching the OP video, I ctrl+f for "Gears" and was kind of surprised at the lack of comparisons to Gears of War. The video shows similarities to Gears core gameplay mechanic, although very simplified. Naughty Dog was definitely modeling the game after Gears.
I wouldn't say it's bad, but it's not great, and it does little to evolve over the ~20 hours or whatever that you have to interact with it. I can't tell you if the encounter design is just bad or if it's the awful AI, but I really never felt like I was having to adapt, learn or get better during the entire game. This was on hard though, not whatever the ultimate hard mode is called.
The may sound silly but for me the best moments of the game were those slower moments of reflection about the world they were living in, Ellie wondering what an ice cream van was and the overall character/relationship building, they had me in the palm of their hands with those.
As soon as I saw bad guys I huffed because it was the classic here we go again and they were spoiling my story beats, which I found to be way more interesting than the stealth/gunplay/crafting.
The soundtrack is completely flawless though, it has to be said.
As soon as I saw bad guys I huffed because it was the classic here we go again and they were spoiling my story beats, which I found to be way more interesting than the stealth/gunplay/crafting.
The soundtrack is completely flawless though, it has to be said.
This.
The Last of Us may have been great for an awful lot of things, not the least of which are the story, the music, the characters, the setting, etc...
But the one element that made the game click for real was the gameplay, and how much fine-tuned and refined it was.
And this is ND's first attempt at the survival genre, can't wait for Part II.
Unlike the UC series, I loved-loved-loved the gameplay in The Last of Us. The melee combat had this heavy and meaty feel. The shooting had great feedback in terms of animation, visual and audio design. Also, the game provided lot of opportunities for stealth which is a big plus and even after 4th playthrough I never got tired of throwing bricks.
Can't wait for the Part 2.
Can't wait for the Part 2.
It's decent, and it tries to enhance the "survival" aspect of the game. The bad things IMO are the contextual combat options, the bad stealth sections and some really restrictive areas. If TLOU2 has more freedom and relies less on scripted events, it can be a good improvement.
What exactly is the point of reductive posts like this? I doubt even 1% of players who played the game ever even experienced this. AI issues or bugs exist in each and every single TPS out there, and the issues people have with the AI in TLOU are by in large issues that exist in all other TPS or games in general (eg enemies charging you, enemies going to scout out places another enemy just died, enemies continuing to fight even if their allies were just killed etc). For whatever reason TLOU is held to far higher, non video game like standards.
Show me some TPS with AI better than this.
It does. This clip looks nice, but the game feels very clunky to play.
Stealth was also straight up broken.
Stealth was also straight up broken.
The combat had great weight to it. That's relatively uncommon, even among games lauded for their combat. The gunplay makes sense within a world that strives for some sense of realism.
The stealth mechanics were more than adequate. It's no Splinter Cell but it absolutely gets the job done. The only thing that annoyed me was that your partner's were invisible, which is IMO a design flaw.
I could understand people being frustrated with the repetition. Or the zombie combat. But as an entire package the gameplay appears more Than solid.
The stealth mechanics were more than adequate. It's no Splinter Cell but it absolutely gets the job done. The only thing that annoyed me was that your partner's were invisible, which is IMO a design flaw.
I could understand people being frustrated with the repetition. Or the zombie combat. But as an entire package the gameplay appears more Than solid.
I gave it up half way through because of the gameplay. Picked it back up, put it down to easy and played through it to see the (magnificent) story. I'd like to see a few things changed. Mainly, if you're going to rely on stealth, make it so it will actually work because it's too inconsistent and causes deaths, or at least did for me. I found it infuriating to control.
Also, using a clip you or somebody else has clearly rehearsed doing over and over to show its gameplay off isn't realistic whatsoever. :)
Also, using a clip you or somebody else has clearly rehearsed doing over and over to show its gameplay off isn't realistic whatsoever. :)
It's an idea perpetuated mostly by trolls and fanboys on the heels of Uncharted's bad rep in that department that in the end doesn't hold up because the game does more than enough to easily disprove it.
It's held to a higher standard because of the E3 2012 demo. Creating unrealistic expectations can backfire.
I dislike the movement and shooting in Uncharted, which encompasses pretty much all aspects of the game. And while TLoU maintains some of those traits I don't like, the additional tactical element means that for me I'm much more willing to overlook the bits of the gameplay I don't like.
It's brilliant. Just like the multiplayer. It can get so tense and tactical. Can't wait for Part II.
I thought it was the best Naughty Dog game in terms of gameplay. Not phenomenal but the sound design made the firefights pretty awesome.
Some gun issues sure, and the story was just okay but yeah, the gameplay was pretty damn nice.
Some gun issues sure, and the story was just okay but yeah, the gameplay was pretty damn nice.
If I could have skipped the gameplay sections, I probably would have, to be honest. I sure didn't come for the 'I boost you up and then wait until you find a way to get me up too' sections, and especially not for the stealth or combat. The very thing that made me drop The Last of Us was walking into another area and seeing the nth area littered with waist-high walls, bricks and bottles. It just made me want to do anything else at that moment. You can point out that this is just the type of game it is, and me not liking it doesn't make it bad, and you'd be right. I avoid words like "bad" for that very reason, but it changes very little of my enjoyment. Since I don't care for these types of games, its nuances might have been lost on me. It just came across as an expensive version of what other games had been doing.
I don't find any naughty dog game particularly satisfying to play tbh. Fun stories and good characters make them worthwhile but the act of playing the game is not particularly fun.
maybe not bad. But more like mediocre. Haven't played in forever. I couldn't tolerate this game for more than the hour or two i tried it.
I do remember thinking how odd it was that the controls and shooting were so poor...when these are the ppl that made Uncharted 2.
I do remember thinking how odd it was that the controls and shooting were so poor...when these are the ppl that made Uncharted 2.
Can we please not go into "Don't agree with/like what I like then your a bad person/inferior to me/opinion doesn't matter territory", seriously one of the first comments in this thread is just that.
Not everyone is going to like the same gameplay, that's not controversial and getting defensive and trying to mock people over it as that tweet is trying to prove quite frankly makes you look just petty and the type of elitist gamer people mock gaming for.
Not everyone is going to like the same gameplay, that's not controversial and getting defensive and trying to mock people over it as that tweet is trying to prove quite frankly makes you look just petty and the type of elitist gamer people mock gaming for.
lmao dude, not everyone who doesn't like what you like is a troll or fanboy
The only part that kinda bothered me was Ellie's AI.. i would rather had her finding cover and stay hidden somewhere when i sneak around then her run around like a headless chicken and still being able to be unseen by the enemies.
Besides that i think the gameplay was pretty good? Its a tad slow but it fits the game perfect imo.
Besides that i think the gameplay was pretty good? Its a tad slow but it fits the game perfect imo.
I loved the feel of the game. It all has a weight to it: you could almost feel it when you would hit an enemy in the face with a bat or a brick.
Now Uncharted on the other hand...
Now Uncharted on the other hand...
