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Titanfall is 5 years old today - Thanks Respawn
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The cat and mouse gameplay is better in 1, as is the movement and the AI. 2 is still a great game but didn't have the same longevity for me.
What makes the movement better? I read a long time ago that the maps design of 2 would make it there was less parkour and that rubbed fans the wrong way but that's all i heard about it.
And if it's not asking too much, how was the cat and mouse gameplay betteR?
Map design was a big part of it, yeah. As an earlier post mentioned, the movement in 2 was also heavier so you weren't able to get the same momentum going.
So, in addition to the map design not being as conducive to the cat/mouse dynamic, it has to do with the Titans themselves as well as a gameplay change. The Titans in 2 are almost like hero characters in other shooters, whereas the Titans in 1 were based on a chassis. You had light/medium/heavy and you customized from there. I preferred the system in 1.
As the gameplay video in the OP shows, you could also hang onto a Titan for much longer unloading clips into it instead of the canned animation of jumping on and loading a grenade in. It was much, much more satisfying.
And I really can't say enough about the AI changes. In 2, the AI drops at predetermined points and gets boring very quickly, whereas in 1 it was more dynamic.
Movement isn't an issue in Tf2. But the maps are considerably worse.
An incredible franchise. TF2 is one of the best games of the generation considering the total package of SP and MP.
But its future couldn't be less clear. I can't tell if Apex's success is going to kill any future traditional TF entries, or if its success will instead give Respawn the security to do another TF. Ugh.
But its future couldn't be less clear. I can't tell if Apex's success is going to kill any future traditional TF entries, or if its success will instead give Respawn the security to do another TF. Ugh.
Titanfall 1 is one of my favorite multiplayer FPSes ever, and Titanfall 2 is one of my favorite single player campaigns in an FPS.
2 is a good game. I should preface this considering how much I bash it compared to 1 but I'll summarize a shortly while I eat some cookies in between Dmc5 sessions
The maps/levels. Tf1 had some of the best fucking maps Ive ever played in any mp game. Tf2 has dog shit maps that follow the 3 lane model ala cod. Seriously it blows my mind the level of quality between the two games, its like the second game was made by an entirely different team.
Titans were nerfed to fucking hell in titanfall 2 and while they had more models that could do a lot more like fly and have swords, customization with them was completely nerfed as now every titan had their own preset loadout while in titanfall 1 you could mix and match abilities, weapons, etc. Titans also had regen shields in 1 which meant they lasted longer than in 2. The gameplay with the titans also was heavily nerfed, whereas before you could use all your abilities all at the same time, in 2 they relegated you to only being able to use one at a time. So while in 1 you could reload your primary gun while using a rocket salvo to continue pumping out dps, 2 forced you to pick and choose which one you want to do. Rodeoing was another area that was fundamentally altered for the worse. Before you could jump on titans and do damage directly to their health instead of their shields, and then pilots would have to play a game of cat and mouse or equip electric smoke- it created this fun interplay. In 2 you jump on a titan, go into an animation, then automatically jump off with a battery. I don't hate the battery mechanic as it can be used to recharge other titans' shields but they should have at the least given you the option to either rodeo like in 1 OR go for the battery play.
Those are my main complaints and theyre all pretty significant changes that watered down the titanfall experience from the first game. Its clear they wanted to make it apply to a broader audience which I get, but in the process they just made it worse in so many ways that I genuinely get angry playing 2 because I can't stop thinking about how much better the first game really is.
I've finally come to terms with the fact that Titanfall 1 is the best game ever made.
My heart says no.
But it also says yes.
The maps are uniformly worse. You hear people throw around "swiss cheese" a lot in reference to the design of the TF1 maps and you can see it in all the throwback maps from TF1 that they brought back for 2(Angel City/Rise/Relic/Colony). Those maps are chock-full of multiple windows and entryways that allow you to dip into and out of almost all of the major buildings from numerous angles. By contrast, the base Titanfall 2 maps have very narrow, guided paths where there's more of an emphasis on fat lanes and less ducking in and out of individual buildings. It's what gives Titanfall 1 that cat-and-mouse vibe that ryseing mentioned and it really kills a lot of your ability to out-maneuver someone that's chasing you by faking them out since the TF2 maps don't have the same sort of structured entryways/exits that allow you to confuse someone the way you could in TF1 maps.
One of the Titanfall devs has basically been on record that it was the result of them having to juggle designing single player and multiplayer levels at once for the first time, and sure enough, they got way closer to nailing the design language of TF1 with Glitch. That map rules in a way that none of the original, launch maps do.
(I also don't care for the fact that they took away custom Titan loadouts)
My heart says no.
But it also says yes.
The maps are uniformly worse. You hear people throw around "swiss cheese" a lot in reference to the design of the TF1 maps and you can see it in all the throwback maps from TF1 that they brought back for 2(Angel City/Rise/Relic/Colony). Those maps are chock-full of multiple windows and entryways that allow you to dip into and out of almost all of the major buildings from numerous angles. By contrast, the base Titanfall 2 maps have very narrow, guided paths where there's more of an emphasis on fat lanes and less ducking in and out of individual buildings. It's what gives Titanfall 1 that cat-and-mouse vibe that ryseing mentioned and it really kills a lot of your ability to out-maneuver someone that's chasing you by faking them out since the TF2 maps don't have the same sort of structured entryways/exits that allow you to confuse someone the way you could in TF1 maps.
One of the Titanfall devs has basically been on record that it was the result of them having to juggle designing single player and multiplayer levels at once for the first time, and sure enough, they got way closer to nailing the design language of TF1 with Glitch. That map rules in a way that none of the original, launch maps do.
(I also don't care for the fact that they took away custom Titan loadouts)
I would have loved to play it more but as I explained in this thread, Respawn and EA let the game die on PC recently, because of a single hacker that they can't be bothered to deal with: https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...tanfall-players-from-playing-the-game.101189/
A few news outlets have covered it and linked to my thread, I've also contacted Kotaku because the only way there's a chance Respawn would deal with it is if there's enough noise and outrage.
Keep in mind that it's a game that is still sold at full price and that no one can play anymore.
So, I'm pretty pissed off because I really wanted to get into it and I loved the few minutes I managed to play before getting kicked out by the hacker.
A few news outlets have covered it and linked to my thread, I've also contacted Kotaku because the only way there's a chance Respawn would deal with it is if there's enough noise and outrage.
Keep in mind that it's a game that is still sold at full price and that no one can play anymore.
So, I'm pretty pissed off because I really wanted to get into it and I loved the few minutes I managed to play before getting kicked out by the hacker.
It's a shame that TF1 was exclusive to Xbox. I'm pretty confident that the series would have been huge had it been on PS4.
That's for Titanfall 2. Says it right in your own screenshot. (In addition to showing numbers for PS4, a platform that Titanfall 1 did not release on)click on More:
The only multiplayer game this generation that I've truly enjoyed. It was special and magical.
Which makes the colossal disappointment and utter mess and betrayal that was Titanfall 2 sting even more.
Which makes the colossal disappointment and utter mess and betrayal that was Titanfall 2 sting even more.
The greatest multiplayer shooter of all time.
Respawn spent 2 years trying to make the multiplayer come somewhat close to reaching the greatness of the original and couldn't get there.
Titanfall Definitive Edition please DKo5
Titanfall 2 Campaign combined with Titanfall 1 Mutliplayer in one package. Perfection.
Respawn spent 2 years trying to make the multiplayer come somewhat close to reaching the greatness of the original and couldn't get there.
Titanfall Definitive Edition please DKo5
Titanfall 2 Campaign combined with Titanfall 1 Mutliplayer in one package. Perfection.
Well, as Titanfall 2 is dead too and it launched on PS4 so I dont understand your point.
Back on topic, the first Titanfall ( for me) is the best MP shooter of this generation. Loved and hyped by the first trailers I bought the Collectors edition with the amazing figure, artbook and some other things.
Loved the multiplayer, reached Generation 10 and, when the update of the rank system appeared, I even reached Diamond status. The movement, the gunplay, the powerful titans, the first person executions, the rodeos, the music, the general dialogues and phrases of the grunts when they are fighting or spotting you, and the "all-war" atmosphere was fantastic.
For me Titanfall 2 was a huge let down with its multiplayer but a nice surprise with its single player. As a fan of the saga I am waiting for more Titanfall to drop and enjoying Apex Legends.
(Would love to play TF1 on Xbox One but its very difficult to find a match)
Absolutely loved Titanfall 1 MP, punching my way with Ogre and then Nuclear Ejection was the bomb (quite literally!).
Shame I didn't get into Titanfall 2's multiplayer, just didn't feel the same without custom loadouts for the Titans and with those wide-open maps.
They just need to add slide into Titanfall 1 and I'd be set (hint hint Respawn :P)...
Shame I didn't get into Titanfall 2's multiplayer, just didn't feel the same without custom loadouts for the Titans and with those wide-open maps.
They just need to add slide into Titanfall 1 and I'd be set (hint hint Respawn :P)...
Probably my favorite multiplayer experience 1 and 2
Everything was perfect and it worked perfectly. A part of me was sad that Apex Legends was made instead of Titanfall 3 since i haven't gotten into Apex but here's to the future!
Everything was perfect and it worked perfectly. A part of me was sad that Apex Legends was made instead of Titanfall 3 since i haven't gotten into Apex but here's to the future!
Call of Duty itself thought that was the case and tried to rip off the movement mechanics. COD players did not like it so it's back to normal.
1.As people have mentioned, Titanfall 1 felt like a war zone. The AI weren't in obvious places, there were buildings and books to hide in, you could really escape from a situation of somebody was chasing you. Throw on invisibility and bounce around. It was a special experience
TF2 felt like a step back from that and closer to a COD experience.
2. Titan customization was much better in 1. You could make what you wanted and not have a hero Titan that had things you never use
3. The overall look and art style of 1 drastically changed in TF2 and Apex. If you look at the TF1 pilots and gun skins, they look and feel weight. In 2, things just looked off and weird. A wingman was now a small thing where it used to be a hand cannon
TF2 felt like a step back from that and closer to a COD experience.
2. Titan customization was much better in 1. You could make what you wanted and not have a hero Titan that had things you never use
3. The overall look and art style of 1 drastically changed in TF2 and Apex. If you look at the TF1 pilots and gun skins, they look and feel weight. In 2, things just looked off and weird. A wingman was now a small thing where it used to be a hand cannon
was about to post this.
Titanfall 1 was just perfect, enjoyed every second of it.
It makes me so damn depressed when I boot up the game today and there's literally no one playing, best MP game of this generation IMO.
Did you Google Translate this or something
...because 2's not that good.
Microsoft saved Titanfall development, so nothing to be ashamed about.
MS* too
People don't really know the story behind TF development.
https://gameranx.com/updates/id/214...development-was-turbulent-saved-by-microsoft/
This game was right up there with Halo 2 for me. One of the best MP experiences I have had and think about it quite often.
Excellent series.
Excellent series.
I have so many hours in this game. It's one of my favorite multiplayer experiences of the last decade. A ton of great memories with Titanfall.
The original Titanfall might be simultaneously one of the absolute greatest video games of all time, while also being one of the most criminally underrated, underappreciated, and misunderstood video games of all time.
I liked the post earlier describing playing Titanfall being almost as if the player is "in a dreamlike state", as that's a good description. Titanfall's sense of game feel and flow is pretty much unparalleled, even to this day I think.
When you get into the game and start firing on all cylinders, both figuratively and literally, the experience of just chaining one action to the next is exhilarating.
I liked the post earlier describing playing Titanfall being almost as if the player is "in a dreamlike state", as that's a good description. Titanfall's sense of game feel and flow is pretty much unparalleled, even to this day I think.
When you get into the game and start firing on all cylinders, both figuratively and literally, the experience of just chaining one action to the next is exhilarating.
I just reinstalled and started playing Titanfall 2 again. It is a shame the community is small, but damn, I am having fun all over again. I really hope we get a part 3.
It's my game of the generation, easily ! I love Titanfall so much. Hopefully the franchise is not dead because i absolutely want more. Bought an Xbox One just for Titanfall 1, double dipped Titanfall 2 on both PS4 and Xbox One... amazing game and sadly way too underrated.
It surprises me how I never lose that sense of awe when I call my Titan down from the sky and hop in.