Shit, yeah. Ditko, not Kirby.
Thank God, that sounds awesome. I've been itching to start reading Dawn of X, this may be it.
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Times when writers really wanted to use a comic character but management wouldn't allow it, so they did the next best thing.
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Shit, yeah. Ditko, not Kirby.
Thank God, that sounds awesome. I've been itching to start reading Dawn of X, this may be it.
It's no secret Keiji Inafune and his team looked to their youth when creating the earliest Mega Man characters, and this article brings up a good argument with the likes of Quick Man's design inspiration.
In the case for Blue-and-cyan-with-a-gun-for-a-hand, Warrior of Love Rainbowman, Mazinger, Mach Go Go! (Speed Racer), Casshern, Time Bokan, Kamen Rider, Kikaider, but mainly the tokusatsu series Ninja Captor all had a hand in the Blue Bomber's design aesthetics outside of the Ozamu Tezuka character in question.
Especially with the case of Rainbowman and Casshern, the influence is appropriate once you consider Rockman's trademark ability of changing color (when using a special weapon) or Rush being able to transform into a submarine.
Oh we're gonna shit on Hawkman in this thread?
I will have my revenge.
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You stanning Hawkman, don't complain about Ls you take upon yourselfOh we're gonna shit on Hawkman in this thread?
I will have my revenge.
"What's your power?"
"I can fly. With my wings."
"... Half the league can fly. Without wings."
"I also have a mace. No, not an electrified one, just like an olden times mace."
"..."
"And my superpower is similar to Donna Troy where people have to jump through hoops to make sense of my continuity. I'm pretty sure I was reinvented as Wolverine with wings the last time before this."
"I can fly. With my wings."
"... Half the league can fly. Without wings."
"I also have a mace. No, not an electrified one, just like an olden times mace."
"..."
"And my superpower is similar to Donna Troy where people have to jump through hoops to make sense of my continuity. I'm pretty sure I was reinvented as Wolverine with wings the last time before this."
I read Powers/House of X and remember this development with Moira. I didn't really keep up with X comics for too long after that though.
Might be a question of how much data the brain can store. 11 lifetimes is several hundred years of memories.
How have things been going since then? Worth catching up on?
Oh ok, you wanna play this game. Alright, let's go. How about this?
Darkseid in a barcalounger is stupid. That's right!
Three pages and I didn't see anyone mention Arrow.
My girlfriend/tech support was also wheelchair bound, I have a secret cave, both my parents were killed, and I'm generally paranoid, obsessed, a self-professed loner yet keep expanding my Arrow-Family, and generally an unpleasant person to be around.
But yes, call me Green Arrow.
My girlfriend/tech support was also wheelchair bound, I have a secret cave, both my parents were killed, and I'm generally paranoid, obsessed, a self-professed loner yet keep expanding my Arrow-Family, and generally an unpleasant person to be around.
But yes, call me Green Arrow.
Don't forget The Protector, aka Sir-Robin-Not-Appearing-in-this-Comic.
Honestly I think Robin was currently under a fruit-pie advertisement contract or something wacky like that.
I don't doubt that tokusatsu had a major hand in Mega Man. Flashman was even based on the Sentai from 1986-87 (not the current Sentai during the development of 2, but only two years old,) but there's a difference between influence and rip off is all I'm saying.
The Shadow in the Dave Stevens Rocketeer comic, using the alias Jonas instead of Lamont. Not quite what topic specifies since there's no ambiguity over who he's supposed to be. Plus, not like the Rocketeer didn't cross over with every other pulp character since then.
My favorite of these substitutes is the Imperial Guard as a stand-in for the Legion of Super-Heroes.
I figure Marvel has more Superman variants running around than DC by now.
Also a fan of Alan Moore's Supreme run. Great riff on Silver Age Superman.
I figure Marvel has more Superman variants running around than DC by now.
Also a fan of Alan Moore's Supreme run. Great riff on Silver Age Superman.
It's difficult to draw the line between inspiration and plagiarism for the bulk of creative works (though it can be ovbvious when something is blatantly copied 1:1), especially in this age where the Internet is packed with all possible sources of information at our fingertips. Too often I've seen creatives claim "a source can be considered plagiarism, but for many, an inspiration", which is a terrifying thought process to fall into.
Generally speaking, it becomes a lot harder when someone creates something and consider it to be their own thought, which would certainly be mentioned somewhere by another individual if shared. Copying in of itself is a primal process, as we imitate everything we learn and see.
Apart from one notable exception, which was cancelled after 6 issues, quality of the Dawn of X books has been high. Moira is still in hiding but a recent development suggests she's going to come to the fore again.
Storm has consistently been shown as being weaker than Thor, though.
And she's an actual god now, so it works out either way.
One of those lives had Moira being over 1000 years old, so it's well beyond several hundred years. Plus comic book brains are all linked into the Astral Plane anyway and are tethered to the astral self and soul, so there's a mix of organic data storage and metaphysical psychic shit. It's how characters shown to live into the end of existence usually can remember all the way back to the "present."
Might be a question of how much data the brain can store. 11 lifetimes is several hundred years of memories.
The Imperial Guard in X-Men was an analog for the Legion, wasn't it. It was at least a very close homage and Cockrum worked on both books.
en.wikipedia.org
Imperial Guard (Marvel Comics) - Wikipedia
Damn near all of them are 1:1 analogs just like the Squadron Supreme are the Justice League at essentially a 1:1.The Imperial Guard in X-Men was an analog for the Legion, wasn't it. It was at least a very close homage and Cockrum worked on both books.
Imperial Guard (Marvel Comics) - Wikipedia
Oh we're gonna shit on Hawkman in this thread?
I will have my revenge.
Lady birdperson it shorta there but Bird dude fucking sucks.
I like Andromeda more than Kara so I'm fine with that.
Rob Liefield did a podcast on how Dan Didio had a stick up his butt for Cheshire so Liefield made this character. He said Didio was screaming like a maniac because the original script used Cheshire and he didn't want that.
Rob Liefield did a podcast on how Dan Didio had a stick up his butt for Cheshire so Liefield made this character. He said Didio was screaming like a maniac because the original script used Cheshire and he didn't want that.
Three pages and I didn't see anyone mention Arrow.
My girlfriend/tech support was also wheelchair bound, I have a secret cave, both my parents were killed, and I'm generally paranoid, obsessed, a self-professed loner yet keep expanding my Arrow-Family, and generally an unpleasant person to be around.
But yes, call me Green Arrow.
Yep. When they ripped off the whole Ra's Al Ghul story it made my eyes roll and groan. The whole not Batman thing was one the worst part of Arrow.
So Marvel won't let Captain American expys throw their shield...
But, what if the shield has a mind of its own and is magnetically attracted to villains, flying out of the hero's hands without him actually throwing it? Do you think that could skirt by IP rights?
But, what if the shield has a mind of its own and is magnetically attracted to villains, flying out of the hero's hands without him actually throwing it? Do you think that could skirt by IP rights?
Three pages and I didn't see anyone mention Arrow.
My girlfriend/tech support was also wheelchair bound, I have a secret cave, both my parents were killed, and I'm generally paranoid, obsessed, a self-professed loner yet keep expanding my Arrow-Family, and generally an unpleasant person to be around.
But yes, call me Green Arrow.
It basically happened with Smallville too
Oh we're gonna shit on Hawkman in this thread?
I will have my revenge.
Before I shit on Hawkman can we clarify which of the dozen variations of him we're talking about?
I genuinely have no idea how they're gonna adapt Black Adam of all characters into a big budget shared universe movie.
I thought Bendis said that he originally envisioned Drew in it (because he liked her hair or something like that) but as he wrote it she took on a life of her own so he changed it. I don't think it was denied him (it's not like Drew was doing much at that time)
Yep lol.
Speaking of Smallville, they introduced a character in season 3 named Adam Knight. He's dark, brooding, and mysterious with a past he doesn't want to talk about. He grew up with money and knows martial arts, computer hacking skills, and piano. And he's not from Smallville.
Sounds like Bruce Wayne, right? Even the name Adam Knight is a reference to Batman mythos. Wrong.
Whoever this character was supposed to be; they changed him at the last minute, then killed him off when his storyline ran into the ground.
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Let's start with wild west hawkmsn and ease into space cop hawkman
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Eww Weiss you didn't know about Nighthawk and Cinnamon? DC reconned two of their old western comics characters into being former lives of Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Damn how you catch an L being forgotten in limbo?
Aww but I want to talk about the one that merges with a monster that looks like him, an alternate version of him and Hawkgirl to become Hawkgod.
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At least their son had some sense. Have a metal that can control the 4 fundamental forces of the universe? Instead of making stupid wings, he made power armorAww but I want to talk about the one that merges with a monster that looks like him, an alternate version of him and Hawkgirl to become Hawkgod.
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I also think about Hannibal Bates and his insatiable lust for flesh often
That remind me that before the New 52 reboot Lex Luthor owned the trademark of Infinity Inc.
Also because this is how much of a fucking nerd I was/am. I used to rp on a superhero MUSH (well several but only this one is important)
I played Namor on a MUSH server that was basically all cape comics in a merged universe. Lex Luthor came to Namor and recruited him to be the leader of his version of Infinity Inc.
Through shenanigans by Lex it happened and we had a Namor vs Superman fight eventually that was really cool.
Ah, those were the days. Did mine on forums, though.
Managed to get Mr Majestic as a member of SHIELD.
Remember the original Gotham High idea?
I was on a forum RPG for thst concept that added "Marvel Tech" to the idea.
It was so much fun playing teenage punk John Constantine in that concept.
I played on various superhero MUSH over the years since 1995. But my fondest memories was that forum playing with that ridiculous concept.
I loved playing the movie version of the Mask against Pinky and the Brain, making the Marvel Character Holocaust into an actual threat, playing Death's Head multiple times across many servers starting with the line "Tricked! By that feeble Time Lord and dropped here! "
But I still fondly think of that Gotham High forum RPG.
They later had Protector appear in Heroes in Crisis (because they needed easily disposable D-listers) and revealed he was actually abusing drugs during the events of this comic because someone apparently thought that was a clever bit of dramatic irony or some shit.
Don't forget The Protector, aka Sir-Robin-Not-Appearing-in-this-Comic.
Honestly I think Robin was currently under a fruit-pie advertisement contract or something wacky like that.
I've always wondered the relationship between the Dresden Files and Constantine. Probably just parallel thinking?
Are there any examples where writer could have used a particular character but instead opted for a copy-cat due to not wanting to deal with the existing characters baggage?
Obviously Joe Kelly couldnt use Deadpool when he had fun in the Superman/Batman annual. So he created this guy who never gets a chance to say his name:
And Gail Simone originally wanted to use bigger name villains for Secret Six until she found out they were all being used elsewhere and couldnt. So she did the opposite and used the Z-list villains.
And Gail Simone originally wanted to use bigger name villains for Secret Six until she found out they were all being used elsewhere and couldnt. So she did the opposite and used the Z-list villains.
