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Time to settle this unspoken quarrel for good. Which is the superior status effect, SLEEP or PARALYSIS?
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In a lot of games, Sleep will expire if the affected target takes damage, but the same restriction never applies to Paralysis. Sometimes this mitigated by Sleeping enemies taking extra "sneak attack" damage, but in general I think this is a pretty clear win for Paralysis.
I don't mess with either, their hit chance is usually low. I'll go with slow or a DoT like burn, poison, etc
Sleep.
In Pokemon, I always felt like it helped more than paralysis to catching them (anecdotally, of course)
In Pokemon, I always felt like it helped more than paralysis to catching them (anecdotally, of course)
It does. Status effects multiply the value used to check for a successful capture, and Sleep's multiplier is higher than Paralysis.
Sleep is great in games where you can avoid waking enemies up if you attack them.
For example, in FFX sleeping enemies won't be woken up by magic attacks.
For example, in FFX sleeping enemies won't be woken up by magic attacks.
sleep almost always breaks on damage, still has a lot of uses but if anyone in your party has DoTs you're fucked.
As a Granblue player I fucking hate when I cast sleep in a raid and someone joins and immediately wakes the boss.
Like damn let me get my hit in.
Paralysis is always better.
Like damn let me get my hit in.
Paralysis is always better.
As in which one would I prefer using myself? Not sure, I guess paralysis, I don't really use status effects in games though, not sure why, but I would imagine paralysis is the better option since most things probably awaken after hitting them.
I guess it really depends on each game. My experience with these is mostly from playing Pokémon, and at least in those games, I believe Paralysis is the better one because it's "permanent", whereas Sleep lasts only a few random turns. Granted, Sleep also prevents the affected Pokémon from attacking altogether, but I'll take Paralysis' 50% chance of interrupting an attack over having to set Sleep repeatedly.
Sleep is just paralysis that goes away when you get hit. Paralysis is better. (going by FF rules)
Of course, they're both generally a waste of time to use, if they even stick, which is seldom. So maybe the question should be based on which one you'd rather be hit with. In which case it's sleep.
Of course, they're both generally a waste of time to use, if they even stick, which is seldom. So maybe the question should be based on which one you'd rather be hit with. In which case it's sleep.
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Paralysis always seems a stronger effect. Duration and not broken by damage.
Going by most JRPG rules (and maybe some WRPG and tabletop game rules, even), paralysis is superior because sleeping opponents wake up when you hit them.
Depends on the game.
E.g. SMT definitely paralysis, sleep in Monster Hunter for the bombing wake up damage.
E.g. SMT definitely paralysis, sleep in Monster Hunter for the bombing wake up damage.
Is Etrian Odyssey the only RPG where Paralysis only has about a 50% chance to disable the enemy each turn that it's active? I feel like it's not the only game like this.
Well in pokemon paralyze reduce speed in 50% and there is a chance that the pokemon doesn't move.
Sleep the pokemon loses a Turn (except if uses snore)
Sleep the pokemon loses a Turn (except if uses snore)
I'm voting paralysis, but it depends on what sleep's benefits are.
If sleep = guaranteed crit on wakeup hit, then that can be great. If you have complete targeting control on enemies so you can avoid early wakeup and max your crit, it gets even better. If the duration isn't random (or at least has a guaranteed minimum >1) that's super good.
If paralysis = full inaction, that's > than sleep, because you can beat on the enemies without any attacks back. However, if it's "occasional" paralysis then it's just OK. If it's also just non-physical attacks (such that spells still work) then again, just OK.
Really comes down to targeting ability, duration / break state / bonuses and if paralysis is just the physical actions (where silence is for spells).
If sleep = guaranteed crit on wakeup hit, then that can be great. If you have complete targeting control on enemies so you can avoid early wakeup and max your crit, it gets even better. If the duration isn't random (or at least has a guaranteed minimum >1) that's super good.
If paralysis = full inaction, that's > than sleep, because you can beat on the enemies without any attacks back. However, if it's "occasional" paralysis then it's just OK. If it's also just non-physical attacks (such that spells still work) then again, just OK.
Really comes down to targeting ability, duration / break state / bonuses and if paralysis is just the physical actions (where silence is for spells).
Paralysis by far IMO. Hell in Persona, Sleep even heals both HP and MP of the enemies inflicted by it.
More often than not sleep is not implemented terribly well. It's either they flat out are asleep and getting dunked on for multiple turns with you not being able to do shit, or there's a chance the afflicted wakes up randomly/wakes up when they're hit.
Paralysis as a whole is more consistent so I'll go with that.
Paralysis as a whole is more consistent so I'll go with that.